Comments on: Obama and Hillary: the spider and the fly http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/ Thu, 24 May 2012 20:05:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Artfldgr http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127666 Artfldgr Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:04:23 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127666 vanderleun, I never had time to take a look at everyone elses blogs. i am honored to be a part of yours in a nice way. i had a bit of time and went over, its very interesting. thanks so much. i try to keep em short, but it depends on what people know. that paragraph really didnt require any knowlege outside of the meanings of the words. if i had to put history or some dependency out of time, then it becomes a problem. i would love to use the 1968 chzech events, but i cant. so i am forced to used herr hitler or comrade stalin. and so their ignorance forces me into an explanation that uses a refernce they are tired of hearing plinked. it reminds me of the joke (sight gag) where professional commedians got together, and since the jokes are endless and variations, they numbered them. that way, rather than tell the whole involved joke, they could utter a number. so what you saw was john cleese say 68, and everyone laugh... (and someone yell out 189 and everyone look at him strangely for it wasnt funny). they took the dependency of knowlege in conversation and turned it on its head to get you to notice it. its not just language that can make babble, but facts about reality too. in essence we are competeing between empirical reality adn its limitations, and fantasmagorical reality with its constant failures and nothing to chew on but hope. thanks again... the more i learn to write better the better it is for all!!! (myself included). vanderleun,
I never had time to take a look at everyone elses blogs. i am honored to be a part of yours in a nice way. i had a bit of time and went over, its very interesting. thanks so much.

i try to keep em short, but it depends on what people know. that paragraph really didnt require any knowlege outside of the meanings of the words.

if i had to put history or some dependency out of time, then it becomes a problem. i would love to use the 1968 chzech events, but i cant. so i am forced to used herr hitler or comrade stalin. and so their ignorance forces me into an explanation that uses a refernce they are tired of hearing plinked.

it reminds me of the joke (sight gag) where professional commedians got together, and since the jokes are endless and variations, they numbered them. that way, rather than tell the whole involved joke, they could utter a number.

so what you saw was john cleese say 68, and everyone laugh… (and someone yell out 189 and everyone look at him strangely for it wasnt funny).

they took the dependency of knowlege in conversation and turned it on its head to get you to notice it.

its not just language that can make babble, but facts about reality too.

in essence we are competeing between empirical reality adn its limitations, and fantasmagorical reality with its constant failures and nothing to chew on but hope.

thanks again…
the more i learn to write better the better it is for all!!! (myself included).

]]> By: Richard Aubrey http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127513 Richard Aubrey Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:14:24 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127513 I never had any use for the Clintons. But if I had to point to one thing which is unadorned with possible excuses, it is the Travel Office firings. They wanted their buds to get the business. Fired the guys who'd been there for years. Then, just to make it stink, just because they could, they sicced the FBI on them with bogus charges, thus nearly bankrupting them with defense charges. Just because they could. I can't imagine anything they could do which would erase the impact of that needless, sadistic, vicious corruption. I never had any use for the Clintons.
But if I had to point to one thing which is unadorned with possible excuses, it is the Travel Office firings.
They wanted their buds to get the business. Fired the guys who’d been there for years. Then, just to make it stink, just because they could, they sicced the FBI on them with bogus charges, thus nearly bankrupting them with defense charges.
Just because they could.
I can’t imagine anything they could do which would erase the impact of that needless, sadistic, vicious corruption.

]]> By: camojack http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127499 camojack Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:50:33 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127499 <i>"I’m not a Hillary Clinton fan. But I must say she has surprised me with the depth of her subservience to the Obama foreign policy vision, and her ability to compromise whatever integrity she might have had left as she goes about doing so."</i> Personally, I don't think she did have any integrity left, if she ever had any to begin with. Utter, calculating politico, that one... :shock: “I’m not a Hillary Clinton fan. But I must say she has surprised me with the depth of her subservience to the Obama foreign policy vision, and her ability to compromise whatever integrity she might have had left as she goes about doing so.”

Personally, I don’t think she did have any integrity left, if she ever had any to begin with. Utter, calculating politico, that one… :shock:

]]> By: sartana http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127460 sartana Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:40:43 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127460 People mock those who would proclaim Obonga a Messiah or miracle-worker- but I don't know. He managed to accomplish that which seemed most impossible- he made the Clintons seem remotely sympathetic. People mock those who would proclaim Obonga a Messiah or miracle-worker- but I don’t know.

He managed to accomplish that which seemed most impossible-

he made the Clintons seem remotely sympathetic.

]]> By: ghost707 http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127457 ghost707 Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:31:58 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127457 Another excellent article neo. I think Hillary is done. She can run against Obama in 2012 - but the economic stagnation brought on by Obama and his clueless administration will be with us for some time - and Hillary will be stained by it - no matter how hard she tries to distance herself. In 2012 most of the country will not want ANY liberal near the White House. Another excellent article neo.

I think Hillary is done. She can run against Obama in 2012 – but the economic stagnation brought on by Obama and his clueless administration will be with us for some time – and Hillary will be stained by it – no matter how hard she tries to distance herself.
In 2012 most of the country will not want ANY liberal near the White House.

]]> By: neo-neocon http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127434 neo-neocon Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:05:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127434 Cincinnatus: Or a financial adviser under Obama, for that matter. Cincinnatus: Or a financial adviser under Obama, for that matter.

]]> By: vanderleun http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127433 vanderleun Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:58:33 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127433 I liked Artfldgr's comment on expertise so much I put in in my sidebar. Keep it up.... and keep it about that short. I liked Artfldgr’s comment on expertise so much I put in in my sidebar. Keep it up…. and keep it about that short.

]]> By: Cincinnatus http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127429 Cincinnatus Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:42:42 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127429 Being a Sec of State under Obama is like being a financial advisor under Hoover. Being a Sec of State under Obama is like being a financial advisor under Hoover.

]]> By: Richard Aubrey http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127414 Richard Aubrey Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:29:22 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127414 Presuming zero has actually trapped Hillary in a web from which she will not politically recover, I say, good on him. He's got to do something right, if only by accident. Presuming zero has actually trapped Hillary in a web from which she will not politically recover, I say, good on him.
He’s got to do something right, if only by accident.

]]> By: Artfldgr http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127413 Artfldgr Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:27:54 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/29/obama-and-hillary-the-spider-and-the-fly/#comment-127413 <i>If Obama weakens more and more, and his unpopularity rises even with Democrats, quitting at that point could make her a heroine and position her for a primary challenge against him in 2012</i> she cried cause she knew she was being turned down by other forces to be the one to convert the USA. there is no place for her other than a high up servant functionary. she is dead in any way you turn the bauble. obama is not going to succeed in making the US wonderful, and that stain will stick to her. she has no place to go if she quits, and either way the left will abandon and crap on her for opposing them. they arent up to purging people to be part of the choir triumphant, but they can purge their careers and make them non entities other than in the perifery... she also believes they will win, and so she knows what they will do in the history books they will rewrite about her. If Obama weakens more and more, and his unpopularity rises even with Democrats, quitting at that point could make her a heroine and position her for a primary challenge against him in 2012

she cried cause she knew she was being turned down by other forces to be the one to convert the USA. there is no place for her other than a high up servant functionary.

she is dead in any way you turn the bauble.

obama is not going to succeed in making the US wonderful, and that stain will stick to her.

she has no place to go if she quits, and either way the left will abandon and crap on her for opposing them.

they arent up to purging people to be part of the choir triumphant, but they can purge their careers and make them non entities other than in the perifery…

she also believes they will win, and so she knows what they will do in the history books they will rewrite about her.

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