Comments on: Unintended consequences of the Pill http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/ Thu, 24 May 2012 20:05:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Richard Aubrey http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128891 Richard Aubrey Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:01:15 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128891 Maybe disasters wil make a difference. The further we got from a big war, the less masculine the leading men got. Viet Nam was not a good war, so it didn't count. See Peggy Noonan's post-9-11 column, "Welcome Back, Duke" which you can search for more easily if you remember the comma. It was said that some [of the off-pill] women, [or women whose natural urges overcame the pill's effects, to follow this recent research] were prospecting among cops and firemen and iron workers in Manhattan that first year. Maybe disasters wil make a difference.
The further we got from a big war, the less masculine the leading men got.
Viet Nam was not a good war, so it didn’t count.
See Peggy Noonan’s post-9-11 column, “Welcome Back, Duke” which you can search for more easily if you remember the comma.
It was said that some [of the off-pill] women, [or women whose natural urges overcame the pill's effects, to follow this recent research] were prospecting among cops and firemen and iron workers in Manhattan that first year.

]]> By: Scottie http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128843 Scottie Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:51:29 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128843 Tatyana, Heh...I'm certainly open to any of your suggestions. Feel free to edit the suggested alternative scenario as you wish, madame. I look forward to your improvements on the idea.... Tatyana,

Heh…I’m certainly open to any of your suggestions. Feel free to edit the suggested alternative scenario as you wish, madame.

I look forward to your improvements on the idea….

]]> By: Tatyana http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128818 Tatyana Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:18:17 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128818 Scottie, that variant better, but to get it in production we have to work on it some more... Scottie, that variant better, but to get it in production we have to work on it some more…

]]> By: Scottie http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128799 Scottie Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:15:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128799 Tatyana, Alternative scenario: Woman goes on pill *experience* life without worry of pregnancy. Woman goes into business world, stays on pill as it's *just not the right time to settle down*, and it's *not compatible with her career right now to have kids*. Woman meets (effiminate) man, is instantly attracted to said effiminate man, decides he's THE ONE since she's so attracted to him, and gets hitched. After a few years of marriage, woman is now ready for ankle biters (after all, her biological clock is now ticking louder), and goes off the pill. Woman takes a second look at her marital choices, decides the effiminate male she's married to just ain't cutting it, kicks him the curb to start all over again. Woman goes back on the pill, just in case, as she starts hunting for a mate again.... :D Tatyana,

Alternative scenario:

Woman goes on pill *experience* life without worry of pregnancy.

Woman goes into business world, stays on pill as it’s *just not the right time to settle down*, and it’s *not compatible with her career right now to have kids*.

Woman meets (effiminate) man, is instantly attracted to said effiminate man, decides he’s THE ONE since she’s so attracted to him, and gets hitched.

After a few years of marriage, woman is now ready for ankle biters (after all, her biological clock is now ticking louder), and goes off the pill.

Woman takes a second look at her marital choices, decides the effiminate male she’s married to just ain’t cutting it, kicks him the curb to start all over again.

Woman goes back on the pill, just in case, as she starts hunting for a mate again….

:D

]]> By: expat http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128794 expat Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:36:57 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128794 RL, I don't think it's whether you enjoy a latte. I think it's whether you drink the latte to be cool. A man knows who he is and what suits him without checking out the NYT fashion section. RL,

I don’t think it’s whether you enjoy a latte. I think it’s whether you drink the latte to be cool. A man knows who he is and what suits him without checking out the NYT fashion section.

]]> By: Tatyana http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128777 Tatyana Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:30:28 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128777 David - actually, it's the other way around. Alice get's married to Bob, and starts taking the pill, otherwise there is no point in taking it. How else is she going to please his I'm The Center of The World- mentality? Not with ankle-biters, for sure. Only when the pill is no longer needed she wakes up from the drug-induced dream and finds that a) she is married to Bob b) she's no Sleeping Beauty anymore. David – actually, it’s the other way around.
Alice get’s married to Bob, and starts taking the pill, otherwise there is no point in taking it. How else is she going to please his I’m The Center of The World- mentality? Not with ankle-biters, for sure.
Only when the pill is no longer needed she wakes up from the drug-induced dream and finds that
a) she is married to Bob
b) she’s no Sleeping Beauty anymore.

]]> By: david foster http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128772 david foster Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:13:49 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128772 To the extent this effect is for real, it would lead to the following scenario: 1)Alice is taking the pill 2)Alice is very attracted to Bob, to whom she would not in a state of nature be attracted because of non-optimal immune system fit 3)They get married 4)Alice stops taking the pill, for health reasons or to get pregnant or whatever 5)Alice finds herself much less attracted to Bob, and figures she made a very bad choice To the extent this effect is for real, it would lead to the following scenario:

1)Alice is taking the pill
2)Alice is very attracted to Bob, to whom she would not in a state of nature be attracted because of non-optimal immune system fit
3)They get married
4)Alice stops taking the pill, for health reasons or to get pregnant or whatever
5)Alice finds herself much less attracted to Bob, and figures she made a very bad choice

]]> By: J.L. http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128758 J.L. Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:35:36 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128758 Tatyana said: <i>J.L. - all this work on mouth-watering advertisement, and oyu had to spoil it with mention of a “wife”? </i> Aw, shucks, thanks Tatyana. But, yep, I'm taken (although she may on occasion want to give me away!). :) Scottie said: <i>"regarding Sylvester Stallone and Steven Segal being examples of manly men, I believe one has a pony tail hairdo and both wax their chests….."</i> Stallone waxes?? Nooooooooooo! Say it aint so, Sly, say it aint so!! LOL Scottie said: <i> "the big hair metal bands of the ’80’s that had hair longer than the chicks, wore spandex, and in more than one band wore makeup" </i> I think more drugs were implicated there than just the pill. LOL Tatyana said:
J.L. – all this work on mouth-watering advertisement, and oyu had to spoil it with mention of a “wife”?

Aw, shucks, thanks Tatyana. But, yep, I’m taken (although she may on occasion want to give me away!). :)

Scottie said:
“regarding Sylvester Stallone and Steven Segal being examples of manly men, I believe one has a pony tail hairdo and both wax their chests…..”

Stallone waxes?? Nooooooooooo!
Say it aint so, Sly, say it aint so!! LOL

Scottie said:
“the big hair metal bands of the ’80’s that had hair longer than the chicks, wore spandex, and in more than one band wore makeup”

I think more drugs were implicated there than just the pill. LOL

]]> By: Kathi http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128735 Kathi Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:32:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128735 This may explain the current epidemic of female teachers molesting their young students. I think the reason we see so many feminine looking men in Hollywood nowadays might be due to the large number of gay men who work in that industry--they are merely casting their preference. This may explain the current epidemic of female teachers molesting their young students.

I think the reason we see so many feminine looking men in Hollywood nowadays might be due to the large number of gay men who work in that industry–they are merely casting their preference.

]]> By: Don http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128734 Don Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:15:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/08/unintended-consequences-of-the-pill/#comment-128734 Sorry to interrupt, but 0bama won a Peace Prize . . . Sorry to interrupt, but 0bama won a Peace Prize . . .

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