Comments on: Those paranoid conservatives: who are you calling deranged?

By: Artfldgr

Artfldgr — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:10:53 +0000

Another way of putting it:

Obama makes the birchers look sane…

By: Artfldgr

Artfldgr — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:10:23 +0000

and weirder still is that if we listened to the birchers we wouldnt be here at this point, and can you imagine what inventions and things we would have if energy was unleashed for the past 30 years?

(not that i agree with birch society, just working off your point)

By: rickl

rickl — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:20:26 +0000

I’d just like to point out, since I didn’t make it clear earlier, that I think Obama is really a symptom of the disease rather than the disease itself.

The real problem is the degree that Marxist/Communist ideology has embedded itself in American society, to a degree that was unimaginable a few decades ago. Many people today routinely express opinions and ideas that are thoroughly Communist without even realizing it. The Gramscian long march through the institutions has been a resounding success. The proof is in the millions of idealistic young people who believed in Hope and Change, and the millions of white people who voted for a black candidate–any black candidate–simply because it was the PC thing to do.

Which makes me look at the 1950s John Birch Society in a new light. They constantly railed against Communist subversion and One World Government, and were relentlessly mocked as paranoid crazies on the lunatic fringe. Well, here we are.

By: Artfldgr

Artfldgr — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:11:12 +0000

Promethea, betsy, excellent comments….

must think now…

By: TmjUtah

TmjUtah — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:59:05 +0000

I wouldn’t be as worried as I am if I weren’t dead bang certain that the poison of rewarding efforts toward achieving the correct political narrative is a foundational motivation for these gomers we have allowed into power.

Destroying the system – destroying it simply because they have found it wanting – in the utter absence of any real option for going forward after the last brick is taken down off the edifice of the republic is perfectly acceptable to them.

They will be acting out of the best of intentions. All their professional lives, the real ideologues among them have had their tickets punched not for achievement but for conformity.

Ask a Cambodian how a political upheaval along those lines works.

By: betsybounds

betsybounds — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:25:55 +0000

Promethea:

Please recall that the executive branch of our government has the responsibility (power?) of enforcement. That’s disquieting, to say no more, in our present condition. The executive branch also controls the regulatory apparatus, which is where the power resides right now. It’s not necessary for the Congress to pass laws regarding all of this–the attacks on Fox, etc. All Obama has to do is impose regulations. And that’s what he’s doing.

The Scandinavian model isn’t apropos.

By: nyomythus

nyomythus — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:30:08 +0000

“Matthew 7.5: First cast out the beam in your own eye; and then you shall see clearly to cast out the mote from your brother’s eye.”

Well, here we have biblical authority. Religion really does poison everything.

By: Promethea

Promethea — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:47:59 +0000

Artfldgr . . .

I think you are finding many similarities between the U.S. and various totalitarian regimes, but are not seeing the differences.

I too am very concerned about the direction Obama’s administration is taking us. However, this country has a lot more local governments than the European countries probably did. Also, it is one thing to write a decree and another to have it enforced. Also, our culture includes democratic thinking and practices. Finally, it would probably be difficult for foreign governments to occupy the U.S. because we also have a large army and the foreign armies would have to get their troops here and then take it over.

As far as socialism leading to communism, I guess I have to raise the example of the Scandinavians, who have lived under socialism for years. They never actually went so far as to take all the property from the rich and middle class people and give it to the peasants. Something probably prevented that from happening.

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:25:52 +0000

See oathkeepers.org. Tiny at present, but let us hope.
I respect Artfldgr’s prodigious homework. It will take some time for me to check out. But if he’s not making this stuff up (and I have looked enough to feel confident that he isn’t), our ship of state is slowly, but with increasing momentum, capsizing. We are nearing inexorability. Obama has the profound benefit of two more generations of Gramscian revisionism and mind-warping than FDR. And FDR for all his faults, was no Baraq, who means us all harm.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:07:25 +0000

While you’re at it, consider the possibility that others may honestly disagree with you and have their points to make.

Hux would be wise to take his own advice before attempting to proselytize to anyone else.