Comments on: In the interests of fairness… http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/ Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:44:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Artfldgr http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130628 Artfldgr Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:10:47 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130628 Boy are we out of touch if we are worried about adds, and not worred about things like this (or are even aware). I guess you havent watched Nickelodeon lately <i>This Nickelodeon “news program”, is not a news program. It is a leftist primer on how to be a “left-wing radical REBEL”. I am not a blind follower of our Government, and I also think that Government should be watched by it’s citizens. It is our civic duty. However this program led by Ellerby, is anti-war, anti- GWOT, anti-military. This “news program” is not about people changing the World around them. Ms. Ellerby uses leftist propaganda buzz words like “taking on the establishment”. She shows a group of “tweenagers” walking around in orange jumpsuits, hooded and yelling from a bullhorn. “We are not ok, with people being tortured by American soldiers!” “Are cooperation’s priority over human lives?” There is also a call for the impeachment of the President in the second segment of the video, “democracy is at stake because of the President violating the Constitution”. The fourth segment of video shows another tweenager, who has put together a video of wounded Iraqi children, with the song Jesus Loves Me playing over it. This teenager blames America, the military, for what is happening in Iraq. This young girl says “she finds, videos and facts on the Internet” to show what is REALLY happening in Iraq. I am guessing she is getting these images from Al Jazeera. </i> a lot around this has been flushed down the memory hole. like the website the kids were to go with, etc. the ads are for the adults... not to scare the kids. the kids, get to watch nick to get their socialist fix. Nick has launched “The Big Green Help,” a multimedia campaign that encourages the network’s young viewers to become junior environmentalists, and major finger-waggers. “Nickelodeon’s Big Green Help is all about helping YOU find simple, positive ways to protect the Earth every day,” and news.cnet.com/nickelodeon-thinks-green-with-online-multiplayer-title/ <i>In an effort to educate and encourage action, Nickelodeon is set to release what could be the first ever online multiplayer video game that deals with environmental issues. As a component of the broader Big Green Help initiative, the game will tie together an overall theme that the company launched on Earth Day last April.</i> and of course your not watching disney either and their recent switch to utopianism... with a tree of life... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tree_of_Life_(Disney) then the child targeted VHEMT The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement www.vhemt.org/ which kind of makes broadways show the Lemmings quite prescient (but then agin they were ivy league college educated and knew what the texts were saying) the real stuff are the shorts at the end of the page. "The Stork" 3:00 min Little bundles of joy delivered by the mythical stork, with natural consequences. "The Wit and Wisdom of Cancer" 4:30 min. What would cancer cells say if they progressed to humanity's advanced level of consciousness? "Fertco" 3:00 min Fertility treatments with big box economy. all cartoons, and in several styles that are popular... (because the characters resemble some characters from the Uk (i think)). imagine a child watching the stork coming... coming say to bring baby brother. and you see a flight of storks with babies... and you see green hills, and wildlife then the storks drop the babies. and like the old cartoons they fall but they dont fall into a chiminey no... they hit the ground and blow up into instant family, the blowing up resembles a nuclear bomb that instantly turns deer into skeletons.. and set to classical music... and you can see the storks like bomber runs this has been going on for decades. but alas, the complainers were always tin hatters and such and marginalized. and if you have the stomach to read a very interesting online book.. take it with a grain of salt but its fascinating.. (and he knows his history) www.mega.nu/ampp/eden/overview.html Returning to Eden by Daniel Pouzzner http://www.mega.nu/ampp/ the archetecture of modern political power the new feudalism... [edited for length by neo-neocon] Boy are we out of touch if we are worried about adds, and not worred about things like this (or are even aware).

I guess you havent watched Nickelodeon lately

This Nickelodeon “news program”, is not a news program. It is a leftist primer on how to be a “left-wing radical REBEL”.

I am not a blind follower of our Government, and I also think that Government should be watched by it’s citizens. It is our civic duty.

However this program led by Ellerby, is anti-war, anti- GWOT, anti-military.

This “news program” is not about people changing the World around them.

Ms. Ellerby uses leftist propaganda buzz words like “taking on the establishment”.

She shows a group of “tweenagers” walking around in orange jumpsuits, hooded and yelling from a bullhorn. “We are not ok, with people being tortured by American soldiers!” “Are cooperation’s priority over human lives?”

There is also a call for the impeachment of the President in the second segment of the video, “democracy is at stake because of the President violating the Constitution”.

The fourth segment of video shows another tweenager, who has put together a video of wounded Iraqi children, with the song Jesus Loves Me playing over it. This teenager blames America, the military, for what is happening in Iraq. This young girl says “she finds, videos and facts on the Internet” to show what is REALLY happening in Iraq. I am guessing she is getting these images from Al Jazeera.

a lot around this has been flushed down the memory hole. like the website the kids were to go with, etc.

the ads are for the adults… not to scare the kids.
the kids, get to watch nick to get their socialist fix.

Nick has launched “The Big Green Help,” a multimedia campaign that encourages the network’s young viewers to become junior environmentalists, and major finger-waggers. “Nickelodeon’s Big Green Help is all about helping YOU find simple, positive ways to protect the Earth every day,”

and

news.cnet.com/nickelodeon-thinks-green-with-online-multiplayer-title/
In an effort to educate and encourage action, Nickelodeon is set to release what could be the first ever online multiplayer video game that deals with environmental issues. As a component of the broader Big Green Help initiative, the game will tie together an overall theme that the company launched on Earth Day last April.

and of course your not watching disney either and their recent switch to utopianism… with a tree of life…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tree_of_Life_(Disney)

then the child targeted VHEMT
The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement
www.vhemt.org/

which kind of makes broadways show the Lemmings quite prescient (but then agin they were ivy league college educated and knew what the texts were saying)

the real stuff are the shorts at the end of the page.

“The Stork” 3:00 min
Little bundles of joy delivered by the mythical stork, with natural consequences.

“The Wit and Wisdom of Cancer” 4:30 min.
What would cancer cells say if they progressed to humanity’s advanced level of consciousness?

“Fertco” 3:00 min
Fertility treatments with big box economy.

all cartoons, and in several styles that are popular… (because the characters resemble some characters from the Uk (i think)).

imagine a child watching the stork coming… coming say to bring baby brother.

and you see a flight of storks with babies…
and you see green hills, and wildlife

then the storks drop the babies.
and like the old cartoons they fall
but they dont fall into a chiminey

no… they hit the ground and blow up into instant family, the blowing up resembles a nuclear bomb that instantly turns deer into skeletons..
and set to classical music…
and you can see the storks like bomber runs

this has been going on for decades.

but alas, the complainers were always tin hatters and such and marginalized.

and if you have the stomach to read a very interesting online book.. take it with a grain of salt but its fascinating.. (and he knows his history)

www.mega.nu/ampp/eden/overview.html
Returning to Eden by Daniel Pouzzner
http://www.mega.nu/ampp/
the archetecture of modern political power
the new feudalism…

[edited for length by neo-neocon]

]]> By: Artfldgr http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130632 Artfldgr Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:22:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130632 this puts what makes you creeped out.... Pyongyang remix www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2naSzb1psU here is comparing it to another regime.. the one that speaks austrian www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdPSqL9_mfM the compared clip is at the end about 4:15 here is the youth that got it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mvP0ArKIGY&feature=player_embedded Obama's Militaristic Youth Corp Commercial [has a verbal ring to it of sym 4 dev] vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=57605355# Obama Youth Corp VS The Third Wave Experiment 01 www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/38594 and right now... no one knows what they are doing. its not on the radar now there is a reason why so many regimes do this. from the INSIDE, it looks different this puts what makes you creeped out….

Pyongyang remix
www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2naSzb1psU

here is comparing it to another regime..
the one that speaks austrian
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdPSqL9_mfM
the compared clip is at the end about 4:15

here is the youth that got it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mvP0ArKIGY&feature=player_embedded

Obama’s Militaristic Youth Corp Commercial
[has a verbal ring to it of sym 4 dev]
vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=57605355#

Obama Youth Corp VS The Third Wave Experiment 01 www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/38594

and right now…
no one knows what they are doing.
its not on the radar now

there is a reason why so many regimes do this.
from the INSIDE, it looks different

]]> By: mizpants http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130634 mizpants Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:25:06 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130634 When Auden revised his poems late in life he changed that line to read "We must love one another AND (emphasis mine) die." When Auden revised his poems late in life he changed that line to read “We must love one another AND (emphasis mine) die.”

]]> By: Matthew M http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130643 Matthew M Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:50:33 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130643 In the context of September 1939, I first thought the ironic points of light referred to muzzle flashes from an exchange of gunfire. Since I had to hike a long, wordy path to learn his trick, it was no surprise to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_1,_1939" rel="nofollow">read</a> it first appeared in <i>The New Republic</i>. I suppose when it comes to war poems, Auden is fine but but <a href="http://oldpoetry.com/opoem/show/13677-Wilfred-Owen-The-Parable-Of-The-Old-Man-And-The-Young" rel="nofollow">Owen</a> is quicker. In the context of September 1939, I first thought the ironic points of light referred to muzzle flashes from an exchange of gunfire.

Since I had to hike a long, wordy path to learn his trick, it was no surprise to read it first appeared in The New Republic.

I suppose when it comes to war poems, Auden is fine but but Owen is quicker.

]]> By: Matthew M http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130646 Matthew M Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:56:29 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130646 neo, there's a typo that might have others wondering what Johnson could connect to pre-invasion Normans :) neo, there’s a typo that might have others wondering what Johnson could connect to pre-invasion Normans :)

]]> By: neo-neocon http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130658 neo-neocon Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:28:35 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130658 mizpants: That's fascinating. I hadn't known that; I guess I'm with Austen, though, in finding fault with the line (I think it works poetically, however). Looking it up, I found <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_1,_1939" rel="nofollow">the following</a>: <i>Soon after writing the poem, Auden began to turn away from it, apparently because he found it self-flattering to himself and to his readers. When he reprinted the poem in The Collected Poetry of W. H. Auden (1945) he omitted the famous stanza that ends "We must love one another or die." In 1957, he wrote to the critic Laurence Lerner, "Between you and me, I loathe that poem" (quoted in Edward Mendelson, Later Auden, p. 478). He resolved to omit it from his further collections (it did not appear in his 1966 Collected Shorter Poems 1927-1957). In the mid-1950s Auden began to refuse permission to editors who asked to reprint the poem in anthologies. In 1955 he allowed Oscar Williams to include it complete in The New Pocket Anthology of American Verse with the most famous line altered to read "We must love one another and die." Later he allowed the poem to be reprinted only once, in a Penguin Books anthology Poetry of the Thirties (1964), with a note saying about this and four other early poems, "Mr. W. H. Auden considers these five poems to be trash which he is ashamed to have written."</i> mizpants: That’s fascinating. I hadn’t known that; I guess I’m with Austen, though, in finding fault with the line (I think it works poetically, however). Looking it up, I found the following:

Soon after writing the poem, Auden began to turn away from it, apparently because he found it self-flattering to himself and to his readers. When he reprinted the poem in The Collected Poetry of W. H. Auden (1945) he omitted the famous stanza that ends “We must love one another or die.” In 1957, he wrote to the critic Laurence Lerner, “Between you and me, I loathe that poem” (quoted in Edward Mendelson, Later Auden, p. 478). He resolved to omit it from his further collections (it did not appear in his 1966 Collected Shorter Poems 1927-1957).

In the mid-1950s Auden began to refuse permission to editors who asked to reprint the poem in anthologies. In 1955 he allowed Oscar Williams to include it complete in The New Pocket Anthology of American Verse with the most famous line altered to read “We must love one another and die.” Later he allowed the poem to be reprinted only once, in a Penguin Books anthology Poetry of the Thirties (1964), with a note saying about this and four other early poems, “Mr. W. H. Auden considers these five poems to be trash which he is ashamed to have written.”

]]> By: neo-neocon http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130660 neo-neocon Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:30:39 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130660 Matthew M: What's the typo? Give me a hint. Sometimes they're hard to find. Matthew M: What’s the typo? Give me a hint. Sometimes they’re hard to find.

]]> By: mizpants http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130674 mizpants Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:05:17 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130674 Neo, That note is really something. Only a figure as major and adored as Auden could get away with that kind of public self-flagellation. And even though I think the "and die" is truer than the "or die" version, it really works against the meaning of the poem, doesn't it? Or at least doesn't make much sense. Neo,
That note is really something. Only a figure as major and adored as Auden could get away with that kind of public self-flagellation. And even though I think the “and die” is truer than the “or die” version, it really works against the meaning of the poem, doesn’t it? Or at least doesn’t make much sense.

]]> By: Matthew M http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130719 Matthew M Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:20:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130719 “September 1, 1039,” “September 1, 1039,”

]]> By: neo-neocon http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130723 neo-neocon Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:35:17 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130723 Matthew M: Oops! Will fix. Matthew M: Oops! Will fix.

]]> By: Plato Bunker http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130760 Plato Bunker Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:44:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130760 Peggy Noonan got "a thousand points of light" from Prof. Helen Brudner her History teacher at Fairleigh Dickinson University. My wife was in the same class as Peggy. My wife has an astounding memory for this sort of thing. -PB Peggy Noonan got “a thousand points of light” from Prof. Helen Brudner her History teacher at Fairleigh Dickinson University. My wife was in the same class as Peggy. My wife has an astounding memory for this sort of thing. -PB

]]> By: Cilantro Joe http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130772 Cilantro Joe Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:49:56 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-130772 Exploitation of children for propaganda: knock it off. Exploitation of children for propaganda: knock it off.

]]> By: Nolanimrod http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-131059 Nolanimrod Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:52:59 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-131059 I think whoever said they showed the Daisy ad once only was mistaken. I saw it and most of my friends saw it. And we were around 14, not a prime political ad-watching group. I think whoever said they showed the Daisy ad once only was mistaken. I saw it and most of my friends saw it. And we were around 14, not a prime political ad-watching group.

]]> By: neo-neocon http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-131085 neo-neocon Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:02:53 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-131085 Nolanimrod: I believe they showed it only once on TV as an <i>advertisement</i>. It was shown quite a bit on the news, and discussion shows. Nolanimrod: I believe they showed it only once on TV as an advertisement. It was shown quite a bit on the news, and discussion shows.

]]> By: FDUAlum http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-133168 FDUAlum Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:46:56 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/22/in-the-interests-of-fairness/#comment-133168 Prof. Helen Brudner's husband was a theoretical physicist and she's brilliant as well. I totally agree with Plato and Peggy Bunker that Brudner is the real source for "a thousand points of light." Prof. Helen Brudner’s husband was a theoretical physicist and she’s brilliant as well. I totally agree with Plato and Peggy Bunker that Brudner is the real source for “a thousand points of light.”

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