“So what do we do with our liberal friends and those, like myself, who would attempt to defend them to some extent?

This topic, where liberals and their defenders are routinely slandered as evil, lazy and moronic, is not inspiring. It’s no different from an average day at the beach with the Daily Kos.

I stick with Victor David Hanson who argues for a higher standard on the conservative side.”

Name dropping doesn’t work with me – not the Kos reference and not the Hanson one.

What should have been done with the good Germans who voted for Hitler or other Nazis in, say, 1933? What should have been done with all the good Russian Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin supporters? What about all the good Venezuelans who go for Chavez? Or the good Iranians who voted for Achmedinejad?

Ther’s is your answer. That is what SHOULD be done to you. You are as bad as a liberal since you defend them – and a liberal is as bad as it gets.

Some people ARE evil. There are some ideas and plans that ARE evil. It is not a good argument to say that we should not call people or ideas evil if they really are evil. That is another way that liberals and the people like you who support them rationalize the evil you perpetrate or allow or excuse. Some people really do need to be socked inj the face and have their evil held up to them so they can see the horror of it.

Liberals are not only the worst people there are; they are the worst there can be. They kill children ffs. They will soon be killing the elderly, the infirm, the incapacitated. They take your money. They rob you of hope and initiative. They think they know more than you, and more than anyone. The keep African Americans poor and on the liberal plantations known as inner cities as if they were animals being harvested for votes.

That’s the truth and that is the mild version. That’s the horror of it.

So, what we “should” do to them and what will actually happen to them are two different things. I think they will win, and that they will destroy America, and we will all be serfs on Animal Farm. The bastards.

If I had my way? If I was King of the Universe for a day and could settle it my way? I would make an offer: $1m for every libneral who agrees to leave the country forever and never come back or they’d be shot on sight. They can go anywhere. They the the mil and the one-way ticket. Inexchange for each one who goes, we give one hard-working Mexican or SA illegal their citizenship if they pass a language test and some basic civics course tests.

That is a great trade – the devils minions leave and we get the salt of the earth with an accent.

Overnight, America improves 100% and the happiness quotient goes up dramatically.

This topic, where liberals and their defenders are routinely slandered as evil, lazy and moronic, is not inspiring. It’s no different from an average day at the beach with the Daily Kos.

I stick with Victor David Hanson who argues for a higher standard on the conservative side.

You’re right, of course–my bad!

Thanks. It may have even been your site where I first heard of some of the books, or it may have been that I came across the Kaplan article at some point.

The books are a good sign that “long term”, the truth usually wins out. “Short term” the lies told about that era have informed a generation and a half of people who think things happened that didn’t, or that things that didn’t happen, did. The tragedy of lies explodes across the decades. It kills people over there, and brings us a political climate over here that is deadening in iots own way.

We are dealing with the overgrown children now (liberals and Dems), and they are trying to destroy us as we speak. My uneducated psycho-babble theory is that they are trying to destroy us because they know they destroyed innocent Vietnamese et al then – and they want to cover up the evidence or quiet the nagging conscience.

And it is everywhere a liberal is, low or high. Last November, I simply told a 50-something acquaintance of mine that Nixon actually ended the war – and it send him into a seething boiling rage. He said I should not dare insult him.

That is where we are. Citing dates, facts, persons now counts as a grave insult if it challenges the lie people have held close to their souls for 30 years. It threatens an entire personal identity for them. I feel for that, but the time for silence is over. They are now killing us and stealing our country. We have to sound the alram, and stop them by fighting them. It’s all a bully ever understands, and the Left are a Bully.

Mike M: I’m not sure whether it’s the book you’re referring to, but Sorley’s A Better War is a good treatment of that era. Here are some previous posts where I discuss this.

You are correct. You are only incorrect in that you say that your desire to be left alone is only ‘as compelling’ as the Liberal’s desire to control you.

It is not ‘as compelling’ (so to speak). It is more compelling. The Liberal’s desire to control is evil. It’s what Liberals are – evil. This is one of the main reasons why they are evil.

People with a desire to control other people we used to call by their proper names – slavers.

We should begin calling things by their proper names again, IMO.

If I can remeber the author/title I’ll tell you, but a book came out last year that repesented a kind of new concensus on Vietnam. The war was effectively won by Nixon et al – at least if you count Vietnam being dividedd like Korea as a win.

After Watergate, the North took its chances and re-invaded the South – which could have defended itself.

Except that the North had taken the meassure of Ted Kennedy (more than anyone else) and the Dem Party. Kennedy CUT OFF ALL MILITARY AID to the South. The US evacuated at the first sign of trouble. The Baot People came under Carter. All the rest of that misery and murder came after Kennedy, and after Carter.

You can look it up.

Anyway, all of that is just more evidence (as if more were needed) that the guy who said Liberals were the worst was right. THAT is what we should be discussing in this thread, IMO.