Comments on: Conclusion: the Democratic Party does not want to make private health care insurance work http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:18:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Daniel in Brookline http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131994 Daniel in Brookline Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:38:15 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131994 You know what would be interesting? Let's stipulate for a moment that our Elected Leaders in Washington (ELiW) actually do have our best interests at heart, and want us to have the best possible health-care at the lowest reasonable prices. In that case, they ought to be willing to try an experiment, just to see what works best. Pick the reddest of Red States. (Texas, perhaps?) Remove all Federal obligations vis-a-vis health care for them, with a fixed expiration date of one year. During that time, let the market decide: doctors who charge too much will go out of business, insurance companies with ridiculous premiums will lose customers similarly, and the market will stabilize on a workable solution. If it doesn't work, the ELiW can say "I told you so", and keep on doing what they're doing. (If it really is a miserable failure, well, the ELiW didn't get many votes from said Red State, did they? Live and learn.) Of course, this fails on the first premise. If improved health-care was really what they wanted, they would not be trying to ram an unreadable bill down our throats with no time for second thoughts. Just saying... respectfully, Daniel in Brookline You know what would be interesting?

Let’s stipulate for a moment that our Elected Leaders in Washington (ELiW) actually do have our best interests at heart, and want us to have the best possible health-care at the lowest reasonable prices. In that case, they ought to be willing to try an experiment, just to see what works best.

Pick the reddest of Red States. (Texas, perhaps?) Remove all Federal obligations vis-a-vis health care for them, with a fixed expiration date of one year. During that time, let the market decide: doctors who charge too much will go out of business, insurance companies with ridiculous premiums will lose customers similarly, and the market will stabilize on a workable solution.

If it doesn’t work, the ELiW can say “I told you so”, and keep on doing what they’re doing. (If it really is a miserable failure, well, the ELiW didn’t get many votes from said Red State, did they? Live and learn.)

Of course, this fails on the first premise. If improved health-care was really what they wanted, they would not be trying to ram an unreadable bill down our throats with no time for second thoughts.

Just saying…

respectfully,
Daniel in Brookline

]]> By: Daniel in Brookline http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131992 Daniel in Brookline Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:29:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131992 I very much like what Congressman Burgess has to say, so I'm reluctant to call him a liar. But does he really intend to read 1990 pages "over the next few days"? I hope he's a speedreader, that he doesn't sleep, and that he has plenty of highlighters. Of course, given that he said "<b>I look forward to reading all 1,990 pages</b> of this bill over the next few days", perhaps I <i>should</i> call him a liar. It is certainly his job to read it, but only a masochist could enjoy it. respectfully, Daniel in Brookline I very much like what Congressman Burgess has to say, so I’m reluctant to call him a liar. But does he really intend to read 1990 pages “over the next few days”? I hope he’s a speedreader, that he doesn’t sleep, and that he has plenty of highlighters.

Of course, given that he said “I look forward to reading all 1,990 pages of this bill over the next few days”, perhaps I should call him a liar. It is certainly his job to read it, but only a masochist could enjoy it.

respectfully,
Daniel in Brookline

]]> By: Dan @ israeli Uncensored News http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131969 Dan @ israeli Uncensored News Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:19:09 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131969 I don't understand the discussion on making health care affordable. Repeal the AMA's monopoly, that's it. No amount of legislation would preclude a monopoly from jacking the prices. I don’t understand the discussion on making health care affordable. Repeal the AMA’s monopoly, that’s it. No amount of legislation would preclude a monopoly from jacking the prices.

]]> By: Obloodyhell http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131951 Obloodyhell Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:08:41 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131951 Neo, think about what government run health care represents: A fresh new slushpile of money. The existing slushpiles are all in trouble -- Social Security, Medicare, etc. -- they are all in danger of becoming insolvent. What better way to "fix" that than to guarantee a huge new influx of money into the "general revenue" stream that they can misappropriate at will? You want to understand why they are so fixated on the "single payer option", I contend that provides all the answers. Neo, think about what government run health care represents:

A fresh new slushpile of money.

The existing slushpiles are all in trouble — Social Security, Medicare, etc. — they are all in danger of becoming insolvent.

What better way to “fix” that than to guarantee a huge new influx of money into the “general revenue” stream that they can misappropriate at will?

You want to understand why they are so fixated on the “single payer option”, I contend that provides all the answers.

]]> By: Bookworm Room » Wonderful stuff from all over the blogosphere http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131931 Bookworm Room » Wonderful stuff from all over the blogosphere Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:12:14 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131931 [...] In my polite facebook battles with liberals who see salvation in ObamaCare, I often ask that they explain why the Democrats don’t fix the breaks in our current system, rather than breaking it entirely.  None answer.  Neo-Neocon explains why. [...] [...] In my polite facebook battles with liberals who see salvation in ObamaCare, I often ask that they explain why the Democrats don’t fix the breaks in our current system, rather than breaking it entirely.  None answer.  Neo-Neocon explains why. [...]

]]> By: Lucius http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131925 Lucius Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:36:18 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131925 What Blue Dogs? Every Democrat save 7 have voted for this Marxism. Out with them all. What Blue Dogs? Every Democrat save 7 have voted for this Marxism. Out with them all.

]]> By: Tom http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131918 Tom Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:46:38 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131918 As B Franklin said, the Blue Dogs must all hang together, or Baraq and Rahm will hang them separately. As B Franklin said, the Blue Dogs must all hang together, or Baraq and Rahm will hang them separately.

]]> By: neo-neocon http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131899 neo-neocon Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:32:18 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131899 Tom: I wondered about Barack and those waves as well, even as I wrote that. However, I think the empowerment of the Blue Dogs is more likely, and very important as well. Tom: I wondered about Barack and those waves as well, even as I wrote that. However, I think the empowerment of the Blue Dogs is more likely, and very important as well.

]]> By: Tom http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131890 Tom Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:47:22 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131890 Neo: It will take a great deal more than Christy in NJ for Baraq to feel waves of fear. One of the many ways he differs from our run-of-the-mill politicos. What's for him to fear? He's the Prez, he's fixed for life. He knows we'll never put his severed head on a spear. That he has no fear of us, thus no responsibility toward us, is actually the heart of the problem. Neo:
It will take a great deal more than Christy in NJ for Baraq to feel waves of fear. One of the many ways he differs from our run-of-the-mill politicos. What’s for him to fear? He’s the Prez, he’s fixed for life. He knows we’ll never put his severed head on a spear.

That he has no fear of us, thus no responsibility toward us, is actually the heart of the problem.

]]> By: Thomass http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131866 Thomass Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:35:16 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/31/conclusion-the-democratic-party-does-not-want-to-make-private-health-care-insurance-work/#comment-131866 ahem Says: "seizing control of the United States and making it a socialist country, as Soros" I'm not a big fan of always following the money but its worth noting how Soros made his money. Currency speculation... specifically again the British Pound. I wonder if he is really a socialist or just going set up to profit when the dollar declines..... A stock broker friend was really into studying Soros before he became known for politics. He was always going on about what a strategist he was and if only he could be like him it would be easy to become wealthy… Well, electing a leftist in the US… any strategist could see that considering our pre Obama budget problems (ie, they were already a big problem)… that a leftist’s spending would probably be enough to start the currency crisis that was going to happen sometime down the road… sooner / now. ahem Says:

“seizing control of the United States and making it a socialist country, as Soros”

I’m not a big fan of always following the money but its worth noting how Soros made his money. Currency speculation… specifically again the British Pound.

I wonder if he is really a socialist or just going set up to profit when the dollar declines…..

A stock broker friend was really into studying Soros before he became known for politics. He was always going on about what a strategist he was and if only he could be like him it would be easy to become wealthy… Well, electing a leftist in the US… any strategist could see that considering our pre Obama budget problems (ie, they were already a big problem)… that a leftist’s spending would probably be enough to start the currency crisis that was going to happen sometime down the road… sooner / now.

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