Minus the campaign literature that physicsguy is not providing – showing PROOF that the Republicans were “anti-education” you might as well be writing about flowers and tapestry.

physicsguy made a claim that was decidedly provable if he had provided the literature.

THAT is what this was about. Until such time – the playbook gets played all over the country. Republicans = satan and Democrats are GOOD

Amen!

People without children who didn’t want to raise taxes for schools: I knew some of those from my hometown in NE. I have a recollection from when I was ten years old of sitting in on a conversation with a Republican neighbor who was complaining about such people. The Republican neighbor later got involved with projects for the State Board of Education. As I had plenty of childhood experience with Republicans in a NE small town – my father included- who valued education, I found it difficult to see how Baklava concluded that physicsguy’s story meant ”Let’s blame the Republicans Gringo !”

It was a story about a small town in NE. Voting one ticket for small town candidates and voting another ticket for state and national candidates: sounds like the small NE town I grew up in. Voting for person and not for party, ditto. There was a poorly-paid town official who ran virtually unopposed for decades because like his father before him, he was a man of integrity who did his job well.

Another point is that in a small town politics tend to not be as polarized because most involved know each other outside the political arena. I once had an online exchange with a Venezuelan/American blogger who had grown up in the same town in Venezuela I had once worked in, who made the same point to me. (Exception to less polarizing politics in a small town: there will be relatively more abrasive eccentrics in small town politics, who in a bigger place would be laughed off the stage.)

Upon further reflection, I have concluded that physicsguy was making a generalization, but it was not the one that Baklava thought it was. I saw physicsguy’s generalization as being: don’t vote straight party without due reflection. Vote for whom you think will do the best job. Just like voters in NY 23 who will be voting for Hoffman instead of the S person.

Something like this:

My name is Baklava. I’m running as a Republican against Democrat xyz. I’m anti-education. I’m for firing teachers not administrators. I do not want results in the classroom. I want less education nor more. VOTE FOR ME ON ELECTION DAY ! And remember on judgement day I will have your soul.

Again, you avoided the topic with AGW instead of providing the literature to back up such a claim.

BTW, my comment on my PHD etc. was supposed to be sarcastic, not an appeal to authority.

My “secret” town will remain such. I do want to keep part of my privacy rather than spill everything out into the web. If you think I’m making everything up, well so be it.

My original intent was to show that not all Republicans are alike, and sometimes, especially on a local level, have less appeal. However, because I had the audacity to acutally vote for an evil Democrat at a LOCAL election, I now seem to be a pariah. Fine.

I’ll now go away and not bother all the purists here. Maybe if the subject of AGW comes up again, I can help you all out with the right science to discredit that idea…..oh, wait, I’m not able to think properly! Forget it.

A rising tide floats all boats and the only thing that truly matters in life is results. As I noted in my post (http://aconservativeteacher.blogspot.com/2009/10/teachers-should-vote-republican.html) in my state, ‘anti-teacher’ Republicans did a lot more for education than ‘pro-teacher’ Democrats. And the same is happening nationally now too.

Teachers need to wake up and vote the right way next election- vote Republican.

sure!

but how that gives you any expertise outside of that is the real question. note that einstein was stupid enough to side with teh same politics that wanted to exterminate him.

the problem physics guy is that you have all the information on your secret town, and we cant.

you could make up everything about that town, and we cant refute until you give us a name.

however the minute you do, we WILL refute you. so like so many MODERN crap scientists (and i work with them), you are not wiling to let all the facts lie down and let them be interpreted.

the ONLY time i see reps against education is when its indoctrination, not education.

that is, at some point the edifices wells ahve too much poison in them. too much early sex ed, too many pockets of socilaist collusion, too many high earners ot of the class, too many rules against classical eduation in favor of socialist communist educations.

but you never let us know one detail you are not in control of…

whether we live in a small town is irrelevent, we are educated enough to go to the town and read and find out the inforation in detail.

Look at your two options… and lets analyse them with some more smarts than you claim to have.

and LETS SEE WHICH WOULD RESULT IN A BETTER END… not which one on the surface without much thought represents the idea that you want to claim.

Dem– cut the regular town budget by 8%, keep the school budget flat, and a 1 mil increase in the property tax. This results in the layoff of several town employees, loss of some services and the delay of some road repairs.

here, the dem says, lets hit the population for the mistakes we make. lets not reform the school. lets not get any pressure to bear on the problem. we can also use it as a stick and carrot that when the people get laid off, everone knows what side they were on and who chose to drop them. and road repairs can get fixed from some other fund, like passing things off to the fed highway, or maybe start an adopt a road program.

2) Rep– cut the school budget by 15%. Results in layoff of 20 teachers, no sports, no field trips, no text replacement, and the kicker: loss of accreditation of the high school. All over a 1 mil increase. Note also how they did not have a cut for the regular town budget.

what would be the end result of what he wants to do? your claiming a phd in physics, and picked the ONE physics subject that NO ONE understands to debate about!

its not their proposals that count, its what the execution of those proposals would result in.

may i ask why the teachers will get cut, and not the administrators? and THATS what your too smart to see.

that by doing that stuff, the republican will create a better end… why? because unless people have a gun, they respond to such things.

and if they are not coached to attack the guy trying to fix things, they will naturally blame the administrators for runing such a poor ship.

all those loses would result in the republican out of office if the people were stupid… if they were at all normal and smart, they would see that the people at teh schools need to change their ways!

no sports is not a problem. title IX has removed a lot of the male sports anyway. or are you going to tell me that you ahve enough girls in a town of 6000 to have equal numbers in sports other than cheerleading (which doesnt count as a sport) to be allowed to ahve thoser other sports teams?

if not, then that argument is moot anyway.

no feild trips. they are not needed and generally cause one class to crap 5 other classes.

and text replacement… they might do better with old texts that have not put in lysenko type science of AGW and other political things as science fact in them.

the big point is that text books is a indoctrination business that out of texas makes sure that we as a nation follow the un/unesco one world culture ideals.

the minute loss of acreditation hits the parents. they will start looking with a better eye. they will wonder why the people didnt make better choices when there was more money and so on.

i can see why you hate the republicans.

they wont keep building up a house of cards till it collapses the way the democrat you like will.

this doesnt mean that he is not for education.

it means that he is for fiscal responsibility… and RETURNING to that after the opposite or more of it as proposed, is a pain ful thing brought to you not by the people wishing to correct it, but by the peopel wishing to use it to their advantage to get your vote.

you now know which i would have voted for.

the first option puts them to sleep and does nothing to repair the problem only shifting it to infrastructure (what if the kids die in a bridge collapse as their bus crosses, will the result be seen with the irony it creates?)

the second one makes the people so pissed off at the bunglers at school that the person in office may have enough power to change them and put better people there.

phds ARE very impaired by their thinking!

i work with a lot of them, and they look up to me as being more predictive of real world things than they are. why? because they are so smart they cant see how things they think dont work CAN work. and so they never retune their thinking. instead they tell others who are tring to show them that they have a phd, and then requre them to listen to them because they have that degree.

a person who claims to be a scientist would know better (if they were good) than to argue from authority. such arguments are false.

and your phd in physics has no bearing on this subject.

there is a difference between analytical thinking applied the way scientists do, and analytical thinking the way that generals do, and social areas.

in fact, many of the logical things that a very educated person would never choose, are just perfectly fine.

the phds are abysmal at social arts outside their protected little world. i went to bronx science, and so i am very familiar with these people who think they know life and are too afraid to participate.
[i am very atypical for that group. VERY]

you have to think beyond the terms laid out to you.

and thats where your not getting what the others are saying.

you want 1) Dem to be the right choice.. but in order for that to work for you, you hacve to be ingnorant of being able to work out what happens next socially and how that can be used.

something politicos are not ignorant of.

which is why the Dem is playing you and the Rep looks likethe bad guy for being more honest.

by the way…

EXPLAIN why the town has to suffer for the school due to the bad planning of the school in running up budgets in good times and expecting some left liberal to bail them out during bad times when budgets shrink?

i mean how do you get spendthrifts out of the school?

vote 1 or 2?

and if the spendthrifts are unseated and removed, then in the long run, which is the better choice.

and for your other point..

i work along the lines of space time cavitation and that concept budding objects in time and space defines particles and allows their qualities to be divided between the two realities of the cavitation, and the connection to the universe proper. however space time cavitation is not a hypothesis on the table… so enjoy.

Until you can provide proof that Republican candidates are anti-education – you are a lot of hot air right now.

Should I put put my 21 years in computers up as a way of blowing smoke.. or will you deal with the concrete issue and provide clarity

Sakes alive….

Then scan a picture of their flyer that went into your mailbox. Post it on FLICR or something.

Give us something – until then give it up! You are COMPLETELY DISCREDITED as a source of logical information.

“best interest of the child” is a partly line that hitler pointed out would be effective to use to take away all liberties.

the idea of not adhering to some party line and also saying you are adhering to a party line in one small sentence kind of makes an example, no?

note i am not saying of what…