“Arab vulture”= “Arab culture”

(OMG, I hope that wasn’t a freudian slip in type format!! My apologies !!)

An excellent summary of the problem with Islam, which I hope everyone reads.

I think you are correct in your assessment that:

“Islam is a very carefully constructed, self-reinforcing, armored and inward looking system of belief, social structure and religious/cultural norms, that has as its ultimate protector of its purity and integrity the shunning, rejection and killing of anyone who questions too much or who champions change or liberalization. “

I won’t say that I am completely without hope that Islam is reformable, but your well written analysis shows why the situation is truly a grave one. Let me add the following:

Another aspect which makes Islam so toxic and so enduring is that it enshrines as “holy writ” the paranoias and prejudices of a particular people. I would recommend in this regard “The Arab Mind” by Raphael Patai. In retrospect, there is much within Islam which resembles fascism, in that it mystifies the tribal nationalistic prejudices of Arab vulture, and casts as a “sacrament” (my word) the carrying forth of violence and agression on behalf of those prejudices.

I realize it could be argued that all religions have some aspect of prejudice for the culture from which it arose, but I think the rigidity of Islam makes it particularly problemmatic.

Also, there had been, in the history of Islam, a debate between factions that held the Qur’an to be uncreated and one with God, and factions that held the Qur’an to be created. The former won, thus affixing as fundamental that the words of the Qur’an, as written in Arabic, are the direct comandment of God. Thus, when the Qur’an prescribes as punishment the infliction of lashes, or makes it permissible for a man to beat his wife, or mandates that the infidel be slayed where he is found… it would be infidelity to the word of God for a Muslim to disbelieve it and fail to adhere to it.

Again, I am not going to say that the cause of reform for Islam is totally hopeless. But you are correct, Wolla Dalbo, that it is grave. Perhaps there is something we are not seeing… for example, the exposure of many young Muslims to western society. Indeed, maybe, in the long run, the immersion of so many Muslims in the culture of the West (here in the West, not in the islamic societies) will actually be a blessing in disquise. Maybe freedom and capitalism, if not the Judeo-Christian ethic, will win them over, and they (the children of the Muslims themselves) will serve as Western society’s missionaries to the Muslim world. But don’t think I am naive about this… the situation is grave, and I am not beyond thinking the absolute worst about it.

Although Christian missionaries have been ridiculed by the so-called elites who have been promoting a multicultural world, it turns out that American missionaries and others have done enormous work in the world to spread education and women’s rights. “Special Providence,” a history by Walter Russell Meade on diplomatic history, discusses this in some detail.

You talk about all of the Muslims who are law abiding here in the U.S. and elsewhere but, the problem as I see it, is that the Muslim ideology of expansion, xenophobia, conquest, cruelty, misogyny, hatred of unbelievers, and Jihad as the ultimate holy act is there in the Qur’an, Hadiths and Sira and in the life, actions and sayings of Muhammad—who Muslims are told and believe was the “Perfect Man,” to be emulated in all things–for any Muslim to discover or rediscover, and act on at any time. Thus, any apparently sane and law abiding Muslim, whether steeped in or just discovering or rediscovering this mindset and these doctrines can–at any time and for any reason, or none at all–turn into a Jihadi, and start to mow down unbelievers to claim his reward in the Muslim Paradise.

You ask if Islam can be reformed, but Islam has been around for almost 1,400 years, has been physically and intellectually attacked from all sides by unbelievers–Hindus and Christians, Pagans, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Animists and Jews, who in Ancient, Medieval, and Renaissance times were far more learned, steadfast and powerful in their faith and their bloodthirstiness than we are today–has been wracked by infighting, yet it has never “reformed” or “liberalized,” and back in the 10th century the body of Muslim religious/legal scholars–the Ulema–declared that all major questions within Islam were settled, that the Qur’an was set in stone, and that there was to be and could not be any more questioning and debate i.e. “the Gates of Ijtihad were closed,” and so it has remained to this day.

Islam is a very carefully constructed, self-reinforcing, armored and inward looking system of belief, social structure and religious/cultural norms, that has as its ultimate protector of its purity and integrity the shunning, rejection and killing of anyone who questions too much or who champions change or liberalization. Thus, there are no major individuals, movements, mosques, universities, think tanks, study centers or any other organizations in the Muslim world devoted to revising or liberalizing the Qur’an, to Qur’anic research similar to Christian biblical research and criticism, to criticism of any kind of Muhammad, and there are not likely to ever be such. Moreover, if you took hatred of unbelievers and the ideology of Jihad and World conquest out of the Qur’an and Islam there is little besides the Five Pillars left, and it loses it motivating raison d’etre and collapses as a Religion.

We are in a very tight, extraordinarily dangerous bind here, thus the aversion of eyes, and the muttering of “there is nothing to see here folks, move along,” in the hope that if we ignore this problem and pretend it doesn’t exist–if, like a child we hide our heads under the covers–we cannot be seen, we disappear,and the problem no longer exists.

under all this..

the healthcare bill will pass as we are not looking for a moment

i know i am not neo, so forgive…

Sociopathy, Psychopathy…

a serial killer is completely incapable of empathy for the trajedies, and actually enjoys the power they feel by inflicting pain on someone who is helpless to respond.

kind of like that family of fatties that they just took the kids away from!! they went for help, the state took all their kids… they are suffering, and those in state feel powerful because they cant respond. like the victim of the more extreme serial killer.

but what if your subclinical, were your actions are tempered with control? then perhaps your like the psychologist in the movie, something about mary… who injects doubts and miseries, and stuff into their clients lives while eating lunch pretending to listen, and enjoying not only the tortue you cause, the reports you get from the victim, but the wonderfuil pleasure of duping delight.

Communsm seeks to make utopia.

but for whome?

for the good people who are free, or for the bad people in which the rules of the good opress them from pederasty, torture, slavery, etc.

“We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans…” — Bill Clinton

right… he is not ordinary.. the others like roman polanski.

want to know why the left REALLy feels the way they do and makes the choices they do?

i already said it.

when your in power, i ask for my rights because that is your way, when i am in power, i take away all your rights, because that is my way.

they feel its ok for polanski to do this beacause as an elite he has rights. the victim was a commoner, she has no rights but what polanski gives her.

this is the logic of stalin, mao, hitler, etc.

what is for me is not for thee.
what is for thee, belongs to me.

they just understand reality in a way that we no longer do.

the easiest way to win a race is to shoot your oponents before it starts.

how do they get where they are?

good people hire people willing to do bad in the name of good… and then they forgot what kind of people they hired.

here is a blog http://www.sociopathworld.com

its a very interesting site. and there are others.

the soviet union was created in sociopathy when lenin ordered derzhinsky to seek his KGB workers from the criminoally insane… for they would do things to seek control that the good people cant oppose and still be good.

So there you have it. Because I know who and what I am, I now know what I want: power, which equals freedom. Pursuing power/freedom would also provide the opportunity to play the game and a challenge. And it starts within. I see how important it is to focus on self development, to take command of myself. And to command myself, I must inevitably command my circumstances. None of this necessarily involves getting to the top of any ladder unless I decide that’s the game I wish to play. None of this need involve anything huge or historical unless I want it to. And it certainly doesn’t need to involve society’s definition of success unless it helps me achieve my objective. I want to experience the inner essence of these goals in the present and I am free to do just that. There’s also a whole world of tastes and locales and literature that I have yet to sample. I don’t have to do the so called ‘big things’. Self development, meeting and exceeding self chosen challenges and enjoying what life has to offer on its own terms really can be enough for now. I’m excited about my future, for the first time in a long time. That’s thanks, in part, to your insightful blog and the email exchanges. Even now, I don’t know if every professional would agree that I am a sociopath. What I do know is that it doesn’t matter. The label isn’t relevant; the underlying characteristics are. My detachment from emotion, including and especially moral ones, my lack of conscience, my flexible personality, my ability to manipulate at will and the profound impact these traits have on how I experience life, all of this I now understand in a way that is both illuminating and coherent, and I have your blog to thank for that.

I’m going to go play now, so to speak. Don’t worry. I won’t hurt anyone unless I’m crossed or unless I have to, so you haven’t unleashed a monster. You’ve liberated a wolf.

and who and what is the organization of wolves in sheeps clothing? [he uses a lot of their symbols on his site. i said symbols are very important for these to meet and know each other]

“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves” — Matthew 7:15

i would say that most of our leftists follow now the ideals of the FABIAN society..

the sociopathic groups who are wolves in sheeps clothing. who beleive because they are mean, they are mans future, when they are actually mans past.

they require pain, abuse, suffering, for their utopia and a us and them so that them can be an endless streem of victims, and the us can be those who like the same.

they are throwbacks… in an odd way the industrial revolution was the common good man overthrowing the sociopathic feudal rule.

took them how long to get it all back?

takes a lot of time and digging to find out the real nuanced truth.

Islam is not really the problem.
in its absence, they would have taken over some other conducive old thing.

why?

because its easier to subvert than create

when you create, you have to sell people, they are awake and thinking… (more so at least)

but when you take over something, you get a huge number of followers who dont quite know what to do. most dont notice most of the changes… before long, they are not catholic, but liberation theologists wearing catholic clothes and whose actiongs get blamed on the changed organization..

eventuyally though… like they did with progressive… they run out of the good moniker, and reputation kicks in… so socialists became communists… then became progressives…then became neo liberals… etc.

each move is to a new ship after they ran the old ship into the ground with holes in it.

it has the added effect of dismanteling alternative lines of power and moving everyone towards what they want…

just as teh span skit is not about spam, but about such movements (sociaism, communism, progreesivism, pramatism, feminism, etc).

you can have anything you want, but you have to have the state in it somewhere.

so you can ahve eggs spam spam spam and bacon. or spam eggs bacon spam. which only has a little bit of the state in it.

of course, unlike you, people wont pick up the books and find out that for 200 years and more people have been writing treatises white papers and other things on various facets of the project of how to acquire power, keep it, and so forth.

good people find it hard to fathom bad people
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and it all hinges on one thing…

to good people certain acts are unthinkable
to bad people, certain acts are thinkable
because good people think them unthinkable

the bad are winning the war against the good, becasue that sentence above, covers how.

are you for real?

shows you how much you ignore.

ever hear of Charles Whitman?
how about lee harvy oswald?

both were trained as marines. oswald had that same trust till he ended up out, tried to defect, married a soviet, came back, etc. (they just determined yesterday that the image of him with the rifle was NOT false).

On August 1, 1966, Charles Joseph Whitman ascended the University of Texas Tower and committed what was then the largest simultaneous mass murder in American history. He gunned down forty-five people inside and around the Tower before he was killed by two Austin police officers. During the previous evening he had killed his wife and mother, bringing the total to sixteen people dead and at least thirty-one wounded.

he was no longer a marine, but he worked at the campus.

He told Jack Rodman, the guard at the checkpoint, that he would be unloading equipment at the Experimental Science Building and that he needed a loading zone permit. Rodman issued him a forty-minute permit. By 11:35 Charlie had parked, unloaded his gear and entered the Tower. With his coveralls and dolly he attracted no undue attention—he looked like a janitor or maintenance man. He took an elevator up to the 27th floor, and then dragged the dolly and footlocker up three short flights of steps.

its no wonder you can conclude what you do.
if i had the same wrong assertions and facts, i might conclude the same.

“The Pentagon has now disclosed that fraggings in 1970 (209 killings)have more than doubled those of the previous year (96 killings). Word of the deaths of officers will bring cheers at troop movies or in bivouacs of certain units.”

hey, thats soldiers putting bounties on other soldiers on their own side…

He was doubly vetted as someone we could trust with our lives.

so where the rosenbergs…

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were American Communists who were executed for passing nuclear secrets to the Soviet Union. They met in the Young Communist League in 1936, where he was a leader. They had two sons. Julius was recruited by the KGB in 1942 and was regarded as one of their top spies. He passed classified reports from Emerson Radio, including a fuze design which was later used to shoot down a U-2 in 1960.
A former machinist at Los Alamos (the US Nuclear Development Area), Sergeant David Greenglass confessed to having passed secret information on to the USSR, and in doing so, implicated his brother-in-law: Julius Rosenberg. He initially denied any involvement by his sister Ethel. The Rosenbergs were arrested.

a psychiatrist, a machinist…

Aldrich Ames caused the deaths of how many US operatives? he was INSIDE the pentagon, and CIA..

In early 1985, the CIA began to notice that they were losing their “assets” at a very rapid rate. For unknown reasons they were not willing, in the early stages, to believe that they had been infiltrated by the KGB, instead presuming the leak to be via bugging devices. When the FBI were finally brought in to investigate, Ames became the primary suspect. Fearing he would defect on a CIA trip to Russia, The FBI arrested him at the airport with his wife. He was given a life sentence and is incarcerated in the US Penitentiary in Allenwood, Pennsylvania.

by losing… they mean they were being killed and disappearing.

Klaus fuchs… he worked at los alamos
For two years he gave his KGB contacts theoretical plans for building a hydrogen bomb. He also provided key data on the production of uranium 235, allowing the Soviets to determine the number of bombs possessed by the United States.

want to go back in time?
how about another major?

Major John Andre AND Benidict Arnold.

In 1779, he became adjutant-general of the British Army with the rank of Major. In April, he was placed in charge of the British Secret Intelligence. By the next year (1780) he had begun to plot with American General Benedict Arnold, who commanded West Point, and had agreed to surrender it to the British for £20,000 — a move that would enable the British to cut New England off from the rest of the rebellious colonies.

you DO know how benidict arnold was, dont you?

how about the cambridge five?
(number 5 is unknown)

kim philby, donald duart maclean, guy burgess, anthony blunt…

Kim Philby: Of the five, Philby is believed to have done the most damage to British and American intelligence, providing classified information to the Soviet Union that caused the deaths of scores of agents. He was born in India to St. John Philby, a British officer and eventual advisor to the King of Saudia Arabia.

a score is 20… scores is 40 or more…
and was involved in the middle east..

one of the most interesting is Richard Sorge…
turns out his great uncle is Karl Marx.

[just as obama, cheny and bush are related... dynasties are funny things to the common]

and how about John Walker Jr, and the walker family? John Walker and his family members betrayed their country to the Russians for 18 years

I can show you lists of people who had trusted positions in government and who betrayed their people and got them killed or endangered many american lives.

and thats only looking at american history. i can show you the same treachery all over the globe.

funny to think like a left liberal and just not remember all that is real…

how did gavrilo princip do for his fellow man in his country (and other countries) by his violent act? (do you even know him).

heck all you have to do is look at the number of military/gangs that are now sending their people to the military since leftists wont serve..

people fram FARC, AUC, Sendero Luminoso, Crips, Bloods, Latin Kings, Mara Sevruga, MS13, ELN, ETA, Tamile tigers (opening up new offices in canada this week), PLO, Hammas, IRA, Aum Shinrikyo,

how about this one for an odd turnaround?

Solomon Bandaranaike (sri lanka) was assasinated by a Buddist Monk!

talk about trust and breakign it.

this is not so unusual in history…

unless you dont know history, or didnt learn all the facts, or consider certain areas beyond study…

guess what?

most terrorists are not losers or nuts…

if malvo, and others are nuts, they dont go to jail, they go to the hospital. so they are not nuts.

and this is why the calculation on things is off. they are not what the left and the media and everyones FALSE opinion of them are!!!

again… it seems that when someone of the crowd of the reasonable cant understand people, dont want to understand people, dotn want to lose their point, and so on, they refuse the real empirical information.

Nasra Hassan (and a bunch of others too if you dont like his name) did studies.

Hassan concluded that: “NONE of them were unedcuated, desperately poor, simple minded, or depressed. many were middle clas and, unless they were fugitives held paying jobs. two of them were millionaires

so yeah… if you want to paint them in a false image that makes it easier for you to not like htem and makes it easier for you to make a false conclusion that you want over validity, thats your problem…

but remember

GIGO… garbage in garbage out

wait… i know, you want me to balance on a razor blade, but i dont write for you, i write for those that might listen to a conclusion based on a false premise.

Claude Berrebi of RAND “Iinstitute fro civil justice”, wrote his desertation on this subject.

he compared suicide bombers (same thing as a shooter like this as he did not intend to live), with the whole male population aged 16 to 50 an found the suicide bombers were less than half as likely to come from families that were below the poverty line. almost 60 percent had more than a high school education… compared to less than 15 percent of the population

if you knew the real facts, then you wouldnt be looking for losers and idiots. you would be looking for educated middle class people with good jobs, or their children.

by the way, it takes a HUGE amount of ignorance not to notice the trend yourself as to the wealthy who are related into the whole left movement at all levels.

the people that are educated are smart enough to be convinced something that stupid people are not too smart to be convinced!!!

Osama Bin Laden – worth nearly 100 million

Ayers: Thomas Ayers, was CEO of Commonwealth Edison as well as a trustee of Tribune Co. and chairman of the board of Northwestern University.

[they are all in energy and real estate, so thats a common thread too... including obama... his mom and oil stuff... as well as grandma... but we are on terrorism]

he got connected at columbia…

read the work of Jitka Maleckova…

they obtained the biographies of 129 shahids
[shahids are martyrs in case your not a polyglot]
who were honored in Al-Ahd… they combined this on data on lebanese populations.

these members had a lower poverty rate than the general population (so terrorism is good for them economically than not), 28% ve 33%.

the shahids are better educated (indoctrinated into class conciousness), 47 percent had secondary or higher… while only 38% of the populatino did.

Marc Sagerman adds to this (he is from the CIA… so you wouldnt know since reasonable people dont think they do much).

from the book “understanding terrror networks”
[neo... sorry but havent mastered amazon. but if i get you lots of kickbacks by my pointing out lots of interesting books.....]

http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Terror-Networks-Marc-Sageman/dp/0812238087

35% of al qaeda members were college educated
45% were from skilled professions

do note that our best soldiers in the US military who do some of the most heroic work, are high IQ people who can be more motivated than others.

dumb people dont make good soldiers and its hard to convince them that their lives are not worth much so they can bring value and honor, and immortality by hurting other dumb poor people like them!!!

you see… its easier to convince an elitist of almost anything… bu calling idiots elite and empowring them. the REAL smart people are not so visable.

as Adorno said… bang on drums and chant and i can get Phds to dance around in a circle in their underwear (paraphrasing).

you can also read:
“The Sociology and Psychology of Terrorism: Who Becomes a Terrorist and Why?” which also reached this conclusion—two years before 9/11.

what most dont get is that the class dialogue, race dialogue, and other such games on the left serve a puirpose different than what they say.

the purpose is to change perceptive world views. and once you can do that. you can get people to do what they did to me and my wife last night.

my wife and i were attacked by a spanish man, who came to fight because i was a white racist nigger… and all kinds of things… we went head to head and nearly went at it since he was threatening my wife over and over.

the dialogue that all white people are oppressors at birth, creates the same hatred that hitler used to get the population angry at jewish business owners.

the lazy never think they are lazy, they think they are working hard… which is why they dont do mucn and are lazy… their little bit is big hard, while to the productive, their big hard is too little.

and rather than accept that they aren ot as driven, not as hard working, not as smart, not as together teaming up with other friends, they attack those that are designated.

so the man last night becomes the terrorist arm of the movement and the movements cant be held accountable

kind of like collecting dandelion seeds… and going up wind and letting them carry into the population.

how can they all blame you for the dandelions?
they grow where they grwo.

and so when teh people lose their unity..

these politicos can set them at each other.

its seen in movies… which then serve to make us think real is fake, and fake is real.

the principal has been shown to you a thousand times. AND even in the direct context of soviet and socialist stuff!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/index.jsp?cid=240517

he explains it…

but its too simple… which is why it works on the smart…

Smersh actually existed (exists?)

so once the historical false history is established in enough of the population, it supports itself.

it creates a pool wherby the third can sick the second on the first.

same thing in socialism… party A decide with party B what they are going to take from party C, for party B who will kick back a bit to party A.

sigh.

but as long as we are going to participate in the false histories and such… we are going to be a part of one pool or another.

after all, huxely cant team up with me, because he cant align himself… and i cant team up with him, because he will never take any real action…

the state relies on he and i arguing it out, so that his inaction, uses up the people who would write, or make signs, and such.

one should learn the game before one comments on it and everything.

and it is a game, and there are books… alinsky was just one in a pile of many.

Islam is being used…

communists are setting one fish (islam) to attack the other fish (western culture), and through hegal and cheating, they will create a new direted synthesis.

[in other words they cant even get by without perverting hegel... they have to fix that game too]

the guys who are running the terrorists, happen to be educated… a lot of them at the frankfurt school ground zero… columbia. [if you know history this is like a primary source of metastasised cancer cells)

ah well…