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		<title>By: RickZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RickZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Artfldgr Says:  a criminal is not a combatant, he does not take a stereo because doing so will help break the american constitition. even if he steals to fund such things, its not the same as actually denying others of their constitutional rights in order to destroy constitutional rights and put in another form of state. 

thats as simple as i can put it
sorry its too convoluted

if anyone can restate it better, i can learn&lt;/em&gt;

The only similarity between a common criminal and a war criminal is the word &#039;criminal&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Artfldgr Says:  a criminal is not a combatant, he does not take a stereo because doing so will help break the american constitition. even if he steals to fund such things, its not the same as actually denying others of their constitutional rights in order to destroy constitutional rights and put in another form of state. </p>
<p>thats as simple as i can put it<br />
sorry its too convoluted</p>
<p>if anyone can restate it better, i can learn</em></p>
<p>The only similarity between a common criminal and a war criminal is the word &#8216;criminal&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: grackle</title>
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		<dc:creator>grackle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duly noted, Pd. Obama may have graduated from the HLS with the second highest honor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duly noted, Pd. Obama may have graduated from the HLS with the second highest honor.</p>
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		<title>By: Perfected democrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perfected democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, not the highest honors, that would be J.D. summa cum laude, try again...</description>
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		<title>By: grackle</title>
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		<dc:creator>grackle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“…on the face of it would appear to be…” Apparently not… Apparently….apparently (sentence modifier) it appears that; as far as one knows; seemingly
Collins English Dictionary … &lt;/i&gt;[etc., etc.]

I thank the commentor for the dictionary quotes. The commentor might also ponder the meaning of the phrases, “on the face of it,” “seem to confirm,” “would indeed appear,” and “would seem to be.”

I also applaud the commentor for providing a more credible proof of Obama’s credentials than he did before, his original source being nothing but hearsay. I say ‘more credible’ because even these later sources, as reliable as they may be, do not cite THEIR source for this information. Even the Weekly Standard is capable of error.

Speaking of the Weekly Standard, it is interesting to me that the gist of the Weekly Standard article, which was published during the Democratic nomination process, was that, contrary to Obama’s seemingly brilliant HLS performance, his Democratic primary campaign was “a confused thing.” In hindsight, considering that Obama handily won the nomination and general election, I think we can probably agree that the author’s judgement was a bit off. 

Really vigorous proof would have to be something on the order of a quote in a reliable source from someone with authority from or over Harvard’s academic records department. My own research could not find anything like that which caused me to wonder if Obama’s graduation status from HLS wasn’t one of those &lt;i&gt;everybody knows&lt;/i&gt; situations, as in &lt;i&gt;everybody knows&lt;/i&gt; Bush lied, or &lt;i&gt;everybody knows&lt;/i&gt; global warming is a fact, etc. 

Nevertheless, I am prepared to accept for the sake of furthering the discussion that Obama almost certainly graduated from HLS with the highest honors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“…on the face of it would appear to be…” Apparently not… Apparently….apparently (sentence modifier) it appears that; as far as one knows; seemingly<br />
Collins English Dictionary … </i>[etc., etc.]</p>
<p>I thank the commentor for the dictionary quotes. The commentor might also ponder the meaning of the phrases, “on the face of it,” “seem to confirm,” “would indeed appear,” and “would seem to be.”</p>
<p>I also applaud the commentor for providing a more credible proof of Obama’s credentials than he did before, his original source being nothing but hearsay. I say ‘more credible’ because even these later sources, as reliable as they may be, do not cite THEIR source for this information. Even the Weekly Standard is capable of error.</p>
<p>Speaking of the Weekly Standard, it is interesting to me that the gist of the Weekly Standard article, which was published during the Democratic nomination process, was that, contrary to Obama’s seemingly brilliant HLS performance, his Democratic primary campaign was “a confused thing.” In hindsight, considering that Obama handily won the nomination and general election, I think we can probably agree that the author’s judgement was a bit off. </p>
<p>Really vigorous proof would have to be something on the order of a quote in a reliable source from someone with authority from or over Harvard’s academic records department. My own research could not find anything like that which caused me to wonder if Obama’s graduation status from HLS wasn’t one of those <i>everybody knows</i> situations, as in <i>everybody knows</i> Bush lied, or <i>everybody knows</i> global warming is a fact, etc. </p>
<p>Nevertheless, I am prepared to accept for the sake of furthering the discussion that Obama almost certainly graduated from HLS with the highest honors.</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What you need are people trained in sneakiness — you need magicians&lt;/i&gt;

what you need is an &quot;honest con man&quot;
which is what such performers are. 
they are honest con men


they tell you they are going to take your money
they tell you they are going to trick you to get it
they do their tricks and collect the box receipts. 

the ONLY reason that they cn do this, is that we enjoy being tricked when we know the cost and accept it!!!!!!!!!!

but its still a con, a big one, but a con. 
most entertaining is, and as we argued as to paris hilton, i could not get people to understand that their favorite forms of entertainment are cons. 

this is also why the reasonable people do not get these new politics either. 

they LIKE being conned...  its fun

the problem is that they have also been declawed, and so they do not wish to start any kind of negative altercation. so they refuse to conclude that this con is not for fun. this con is as serious as the extermination of millions by some means that can be conned into accepting. 

so the magicians con is a dounble con

he cons your money from you
AND he cons you to think its entertainment 
and be happy doing so. 

again, unlike the obamas, the ponzis, and others, the difference is he knows when to quit, and to leave a little something in return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What you need are people trained in sneakiness — you need magicians</i></p>
<p>what you need is an &#8220;honest con man&#8221;<br />
which is what such performers are.<br />
they are honest con men</p>
<p>they tell you they are going to take your money<br />
they tell you they are going to trick you to get it<br />
they do their tricks and collect the box receipts. </p>
<p>the ONLY reason that they cn do this, is that we enjoy being tricked when we know the cost and accept it!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>but its still a con, a big one, but a con.<br />
most entertaining is, and as we argued as to paris hilton, i could not get people to understand that their favorite forms of entertainment are cons. </p>
<p>this is also why the reasonable people do not get these new politics either. </p>
<p>they LIKE being conned&#8230;  its fun</p>
<p>the problem is that they have also been declawed, and so they do not wish to start any kind of negative altercation. so they refuse to conclude that this con is not for fun. this con is as serious as the extermination of millions by some means that can be conned into accepting. </p>
<p>so the magicians con is a dounble con</p>
<p>he cons your money from you<br />
AND he cons you to think its entertainment<br />
and be happy doing so. </p>
<p>again, unlike the obamas, the ponzis, and others, the difference is he knows when to quit, and to leave a little something in return.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie's Farm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie's Farm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Thursday mid-day links...&lt;/strong&gt;

  
The social psychology of subways&#160;  
The importance of social networking in life: 
 
...the history of humanity is a history of social networking all the same, according to Nicholas A. Christakis and James H. Fowler, authors of Connected: Th...</description>
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<p>The social psychology of subways&nbsp;<br />
The importance of social networking in life: </p>
<p>&#8230;the history of humanity is a history of social networking all the same, according to Nicholas A. Christakis and James H. Fowler, authors of Connected: Th&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the argument against applying the consittion to everyone, thereby stretching the clause of the self evident part in the preambple is that we respect self determination. 

that is, we accept that those who live in other places have chosen to live under a different constitution.  so rather than impose our will imperialistically and our constitition, we accept that they wish to live under theirs, and so ours does not apply

so while the potential for a constitition in which our rights are self evident and available for all, the truth is that some tell us they wish to live under a different one. 

where the two meet law comes into play

so the islamic radicals have stated that they do not follow the document. 

obama and the others do not realize that they are imperilaistically imposing a constituition upon people that done wish it, follow it, nor preserve it. 

they DO have a right to it all, but that right comes from becomig a citizen where you tell us that you no longer wish to live under another constitution, antoher set of rules and so on 

constitional protections are AVAIALABLE to all who wish to have them applied, but that applications is two ways, one must also be law abiding, that is one has to sign on to the social contract and the rules voluntarily. 

THIS is how the founders and others could understand that their words described an ideal available to all who wish to practice those ideals and by doing so make them real. 

those doing otherwise in a way in which their acts are in opposition to the constitutional astate and rule of law are combatants. 

a criminal is not a combatant, he does not take a stereo because doing so will help break the american constitition. even if he steals to fund such things, its not the same as actually denying others of their constitutional rights in order to destroy constitutional rights and put in another form of state. 

thats as simple as i can put it
sorry its too convoluted
 if anyone can restate it better, i can learn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the argument against applying the consittion to everyone, thereby stretching the clause of the self evident part in the preambple is that we respect self determination. </p>
<p>that is, we accept that those who live in other places have chosen to live under a different constitution.  so rather than impose our will imperialistically and our constitition, we accept that they wish to live under theirs, and so ours does not apply</p>
<p>so while the potential for a constitition in which our rights are self evident and available for all, the truth is that some tell us they wish to live under a different one. </p>
<p>where the two meet law comes into play</p>
<p>so the islamic radicals have stated that they do not follow the document. </p>
<p>obama and the others do not realize that they are imperilaistically imposing a constituition upon people that done wish it, follow it, nor preserve it. </p>
<p>they DO have a right to it all, but that right comes from becomig a citizen where you tell us that you no longer wish to live under another constitution, antoher set of rules and so on </p>
<p>constitional protections are AVAIALABLE to all who wish to have them applied, but that applications is two ways, one must also be law abiding, that is one has to sign on to the social contract and the rules voluntarily. </p>
<p>THIS is how the founders and others could understand that their words described an ideal available to all who wish to practice those ideals and by doing so make them real. </p>
<p>those doing otherwise in a way in which their acts are in opposition to the constitutional astate and rule of law are combatants. </p>
<p>a criminal is not a combatant, he does not take a stereo because doing so will help break the american constitition. even if he steals to fund such things, its not the same as actually denying others of their constitutional rights in order to destroy constitutional rights and put in another form of state. </p>
<p>thats as simple as i can put it<br />
sorry its too convoluted<br />
 if anyone can restate it better, i can learn</p>
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		<title>By: huxley</title>
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		<dc:creator>huxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Occam&#039;s Beard: It seems likely to me that the US is headed towards a period of isolationism until we get our financial house in order and get Obamaism out of our system.

Europe may be looking at a very tough time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Occam&#8217;s Beard: It seems likely to me that the US is headed towards a period of isolationism until we get our financial house in order and get Obamaism out of our system.</p>
<p>Europe may be looking at a very tough time.</p>
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		<title>By: Occam's Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occam's Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The longer I have lived in Europe, the more aware I become of my American hard wiring and the less patience I have with those who prefer la la land.&lt;/i&gt;

expat, I increasingly felt that way too, until finally I returned home. Europe struck me as a huge theme park, divorced from reality and as unaware of the nature of the world as children, because like children, they are insulated from it. 

But now, with Obama in office, they may just get a rude awakening (in fact, I hope so). Would Obama step up to protect Europe? Maybe...maybe not. Probably not. They seem not to have figured that out yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The longer I have lived in Europe, the more aware I become of my American hard wiring and the less patience I have with those who prefer la la land.</i></p>
<p>expat, I increasingly felt that way too, until finally I returned home. Europe struck me as a huge theme park, divorced from reality and as unaware of the nature of the world as children, because like children, they are insulated from it. </p>
<p>But now, with Obama in office, they may just get a rude awakening (in fact, I hope so). Would Obama step up to protect Europe? Maybe&#8230;maybe not. Probably not. They seem not to have figured that out yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Perfected democrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perfected democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apparently [əˈpærəntlɪ əˈpɛər-]
adv
(sentence modifier) it appears that; as far as one knows; seemingly
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged 6th Edition 2003. © William Collins Sons &amp; Co. Ltd 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apparently [əˈpærəntlɪ əˈpɛər-]<br />
adv<br />
(sentence modifier) it appears that; as far as one knows; seemingly<br />
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged 6th Edition 2003. © William Collins Sons &amp; Co. Ltd 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003</p>
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