Comments on: The CRU documents: when science becomes politicized, we all suffer

By: JaMarcus Russell

JaMarcus Russell — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 14:45:33 +0000

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. It contaminates not only the Climaquiddick scienitsts but the entire environmental movement and much of the scientific establishment.

I said something to that effect long ago, but it didnt take a database breach and 165 megs of stolen data to make it as reasonable as saying it now after the change.

this is great… now if we can get everyone on the left doing things for the cause and colluding to write letters and sign documents and leave them for our discovery, we could actually come to a real conclusion on things having to do with collectivists rather than waffling endlessly.

now if only Obama can leave a signed admission of guilt where a cleaning lady could find it so that the reasonable thing would be to conclude the truth.

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By: Artfldgr

Artfldgr — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 02:31:51 +0000

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. It contaminates not only the Climaquiddick scienitsts but the entire environmental movement and much of the scientific establishment.

I said something to that effect long ago, but it didnt take a database breach and 165 megs of stolen data to make it as reasonable as saying it now after the change.

now if only Obama can leave a signed admission of guilt where a cleaning lady could find it so that the reasonable thing would be to conclude the truth.

By: huxley

huxley — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:23:53 +0000

Link again: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1321460/john_holdren_and_obamas_war_on_science.html .

By: huxley

huxley — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:23:15 +0000

BTW, John Holdren — Obama’s current top science advisor — was one of Bjorn Lomborg’s SciAm Inquisitors.

See .John Holdren and Obama’s War on Science.

By: huxley

huxley — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:17:40 +0000

I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised.

I grew up with great respect for scientists, but back in 2001 after I read the SciAm persecution of Bjorn Lomborg for writing The Skeptical Environmentalist, I began to realize that scientists were blue-state academics and that allegiance would trump even science when politics was involved.

If global warming is discredited as thoroughly as it’s beginning to look, it’s going to be a huge black eye for all of environmentalism and much of science.

By: Richard Aubrey

Richard Aubrey — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:35:55 +0000

Some science–or theoretical math, say–will be free from suspicion because there’s no money in the answers.
if there is, as with AGW, huge amounts so far and inconceivable amounts under Cap and Trade, with their effectively unlimited opportunities for graft and corruption, then people might take this lesson to be skeptical.

By: huxley

huxley — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:21:22 +0000

it might actually be better for the entire scientific “community” to hope it’s malice.

betsy: Your comment slipped by me, but yes, this problem goes to the whole scientific community.

One of the reasons I’ve been giving the AGW people the benefit of the doubt is because I thought the scientific community was doing some vetting and exercising some skepticism, but they have been conveniently credulous in the face of the AGW campaign.

It’s not just the climate scientists who have squandered authority here.

By: huxley

huxley — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:10:41 +0000

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. It contaminates not only the Climaquiddick scienitsts but the entire environmental movement and much of the scientific establishment.

By: betsybounds

betsybounds — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:31:58 +0000

Malice or incompetence? Well in the present case, and considering all possible ramifications, that may be a distinction without a difference.

But I will say that, if this many of our allegedly top atmospheric and other scientists display this extraordinary level of incompetence, it might actually be better for the entire scientific “community” to hope it’s malice.