Comments on: The war on the CIA http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/ Fri, 25 May 2012 03:40:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Gringo http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137606 Gringo Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:17:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137606 Occam's Beard : regarding the (current?) competence of the CIA, my rejoinder is that the CIA couldn't rig a school board election in Frostbite Falls. (Nor could the CIA locate Boris and Natasha even if the two walked into an American Embassy.) Occam’s Beard : regarding the (current?) competence of the CIA, my rejoinder is that the CIA couldn’t rig a school board election in Frostbite Falls. (Nor could the CIA locate Boris and Natasha even if the two walked into an American Embassy.)

]]> By: joe buzz http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137580 joe buzz Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:24:15 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137580 Self loathing and an insatiable need to be liked, causes those on the left to be at war with themselves. I would guess that lefties working within the intelligence community, might be a problem. Self loathing and an insatiable need to be liked, causes those on the left to be at war with themselves. I would guess that lefties working within the intelligence community, might be a problem.

]]> By: Bob from Virginia http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137569 Bob from Virginia Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:14:23 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137569 The CIA, those all knowing all seeing patriots who in 2007 discovered Iran was NOT working on the bomb! And next time you meet a CIA agent ask him/her if he/she thinks the Soviet Union will fall? Nixon complained that he never received an intelligence analysis that he hadn't read three days earlier in the NYTimes. And the liberals want to reduce their effectiveness!!! The CIA, those all knowing all seeing patriots who in 2007 discovered Iran was NOT working on the bomb!
And next time you meet a CIA agent ask him/her if he/she thinks the Soviet Union will fall?
Nixon complained that he never received an intelligence analysis that he hadn’t read three days earlier in the NYTimes.
And the liberals want to reduce their effectiveness!!!

]]> By: Roy Lofquist http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137535 Roy Lofquist Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:00:07 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137535 I had some experience with that world - more years ago than I'd care to admit. There are things I won't talk about to this day to anyone. Dramatic? Absolutely not. Terribly mundane. But you don't reveal any pieces of the puzzle. I don't believe that the public has any hope of evaluating the performance of our intelligence agencies. The information is diced and sliced to a bewildering degree. The title of my security clearance is still classified but I never learned anything more than was necessary for my duties. This is good. If something good happens you want them to believe that they f'd up and shoot one of their own. I had some experience with that world – more years ago than I’d care to admit. There are things I won’t talk about to this day to anyone. Dramatic? Absolutely not. Terribly mundane. But you don’t reveal any pieces of the puzzle.

I don’t believe that the public has any hope of evaluating the performance of our intelligence agencies. The information is diced and sliced to a bewildering degree. The title of my security clearance is still classified but I never learned anything more than was necessary for my duties.

This is good. If something good happens you want them to believe that they f’d up and shoot one of their own.

]]> By: Matthew M http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137533 Matthew M Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:48:17 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137533 Hong, One bit of information in the full version of the article that Neo linked to was that the CIA is now only a small part of the intelligence gathering apparatus of the US. NSA, Defense Intelligence Agency, FBI, etc. cover most areas, so living without an immolated CIA may be a reasonable action. According to the article, recruiting informants who can provide info about bad guys is the CIA's specialized skill and is precisely what they shyed away from as a result of the assault by the left. Too bad innocent Americans die as a result of the left's disabling of the CIA and other tools of American self defense. Hong, One bit of information in the full version of the article that Neo linked to was that the CIA is now only a small part of the intelligence gathering apparatus of the US. NSA, Defense Intelligence Agency, FBI, etc. cover most areas, so living without an immolated CIA may be a reasonable action.

According to the article, recruiting informants who can provide info about bad guys is the CIA’s specialized skill and is precisely what they shyed away from as a result of the assault by the left.

Too bad innocent Americans die as a result of the left’s disabling of the CIA and other tools of American self defense.

]]> By: Matthew M http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137532 Matthew M Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:40:11 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137532 Occam, It's like trying to dissuade someone from falling for psychics or seances. Irrational epistemology is the root cause most bad ideas. Occam, It’s like trying to dissuade someone from falling for psychics or seances. Irrational epistemology is the root cause most bad ideas.

]]> By: Hong http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137531 Hong Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:39:46 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137531 Let the CIA fail. They betrayed the country releasing one classified document after another during 8 years of Bush to the NY Times. They and the liberals deserve each other. Let the CIA fail. They betrayed the country releasing one classified document after another during 8 years of Bush to the NY Times. They and the liberals deserve each other.

]]> By: Occam's Beard http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137525 Occam's Beard Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:53:20 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137525 Gringo, I once worked with a Jordanian who was utterly convinced that poor rainfall back home was attributable to the CIA's monkeying with the climate. Seriously (and this from a science Ph.D., no less). We tried to tell him that,while we were sure the CIA would have no scruples against such, we would be pleased if they were half that competent. But we never did convince him. Gringo, I once worked with a Jordanian who was utterly convinced that poor rainfall back home was attributable to the CIA’s monkeying with the climate. Seriously (and this from a science Ph.D., no less).

We tried to tell him that,while we were sure the CIA would have no scruples against such, we would be pleased if they were half that competent. But we never did convince him.

]]> By: NeoConScum http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137524 NeoConScum Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:33:35 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137524 Dennis Miller is regularly wonderful an the subject of standing by our Dirty Job guys in wartime. They AREN'T meant to play by the rules! They're SUPPOSED to play dirty. They're supposed to bring ruin and death and destruction to the Dark Age Death Cult who wishes our End. Works for me. Those who undercut and expose them need to be hammered without mercy. Dennis Miller is regularly wonderful an the subject of standing by our Dirty Job guys in wartime. They AREN’T meant to play by the rules! They’re SUPPOSED to play dirty. They’re supposed to bring ruin and death and destruction to the Dark Age Death Cult who wishes our End.

Works for me. Those who undercut and expose them need to be hammered without mercy.

]]> By: Sgt. Mom http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137522 Sgt. Mom Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:18:17 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/16/the-war-on-the-cia/#comment-137522 "IMHO, the CIA is as much fiction as fact." I am pretty sure of that, actually. I think there are a lot more skeevy people claiming that they are CIA agents that actually are. And that there are are a lot of people who ought to know better, who are seeing the CIA behind every potted plant around. I used to tell a lot of people on-line usually, but not always - that the CIA itself was really a CIA front. That behind the public persona of a bumbling, inept, incompetent and paranoid organization ... there was a core of competent, patriotic and squared-away people. The CIA itself was a front organization. OMG - maybe I will be in danger from revealing this! “IMHO, the CIA is as much fiction as fact.”

I am pretty sure of that, actually. I think there are a lot more skeevy people claiming that they are CIA agents that actually are.
And that there are are a lot of people who ought to know better, who are seeing the CIA behind every potted plant around.
I used to tell a lot of people on-line usually, but not always – that the CIA itself was really a CIA front. That behind the public persona of a bumbling, inept, incompetent and paranoid organization … there was a core of competent, patriotic and squared-away people. The CIA itself was a front organization.
OMG – maybe I will be in danger from revealing this!

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