Of particular interest is Sabotai’s comment, quoted below.

Just because nothing is clear or transparent when dealing with either the Middle East, or the West Wing of the White House, lets just throw this into the mix.

1) This administration is not known for prosecuting the now officially non-existent War on Terror or the perpetrators who are the now non-threatening Al Quada. Indeed, we give them full civil rights and criminal trials instead of treating them as the enemy.

2) This has not been a good week or two for Buraq Hussein Obama on a host of fronts. While he is going to get his nationalization of the healthcare system, he has taken quite a beating in the polls for it. He went to Oslo for the Nobel Peace Prize for not being Bush, and managed to insult and upset the Norwegians [may have been intentional]. He went to Copenhagen for the global warming shakedown, and while he was there he managed to seriously offend the Chinese [who we depend on to finance our less than secure national debt].

He needs something to look tough, competent, and kinda-sorta pro-American. What better than to throw a few cruise missiles into the desert somewhere near the fundamental orifice of nowhere, claiming to be blocking an Al Quada attack on American interests or an American ally [I know, the idea of him supporting an American ally is hard to say with a straight face; but remember this is a radical Muslim country]? Of course, since we are not at war [or even mildly miffed] with Al Quada, it would be appropriate if the ‘leak’ came from the United States.

Yeah, it sounds far-fetched and wheels-within-wheels; but can you dismiss it out of hand? *smile*

Subotai Bahadur

I don’t mind to be lectured but I expect to learn from the lesson. And huxley talks out of fear. And fear has its own shortcomings.

Thanx by the way.

he has an immovable position based on selecting what evidence he will accept as conducive to a conclusion. so he never has to reform his position as his position is always the most reasonable one which results in endless discussion.

he is the kind that is actually easy to con, as all you really have to do is act outside his reasonable framework.

outside that framework there is no guard. its where faeries, and magic and amoral actions all sit.

to beat the reasonable, one only has to grasp and do the unthinkable.

My two cents.
Thanx.

Subotai’s comment that you quote here is far too conspiratorial for my blood. I doubt very much that anyone has intentions to take our freedom away.

No. They simply know that they can run our lives better than we can, and therefore must have the power to do so.

-

My reply to you is that while I don’t necessarily think that a “coup” is going to occur in the next few months, I do think that there is enough evidence that Obama & Co. are deeply hostile to the United States as it exists today, hold and have articulated in print and on video extremely radical, Communist, Fascist and Maoist ideas inimical to Democracy, the Capitalist system, and our Freedoms, that based on their behavior to date they regard the Constitution as an obstacle, not as a set of boundaries, delimiting and constraining their possible actions, and that Obama & Co. are willing to run roughshod over the democratic process and their opponents among the citizenry in the pursuit of power and some sort of egalitarian, redistributionist Socialist/Fascist/Marxist utopia. A utopia in which an arrogant, militaristic, racist, gluttonous, environment destroying America—in punishment for its manifest and many “sins”–is humbled, impoverished and imprisoned, like Gulliver, by a myriad of restraints, emplaced and administered by a new, far Left nomenklatura.

Given the extremely deceptive and ruthless attitudes and actions so far by Obama & Co.—many way out of the norm and inexplicable when measured against normal practice in our Democracy and history, but much more explicable when measured against the steps that have led to loss of freedom and dictatorships in many other societies–I believe the actions of Obama & co. must be monitored with extreme care, thoroughness and skepticism, and evaluated against all possible outcomes, especially those other than just run of the mill “business as usual” and Democracy.

I have pointed out above what I regard as a few major, telltale signs that Obama & Co.–whatever cover story they are feeding us–are playing a very different game than Democracy and American politics as usual.

As for a “coup,” I first read Edward N. Luttwak’s classic, “Coup d’Etat: A Practical Handbook” many years ago, and I don’t think that what we are likely to be faced with is the classic coup, in which tanks are blocking the thoroughfares, and military forces occupy the seat of government, communication hubs and other key power centers. Rather, I think that we are looking at extreme “bad faith,” at an attempt at internal subversion and Revolution by legislation, administration and intimidation that will only devolve to naked force as a last resort.

What I do see, as one example of many extremely dangerous moves that seem to me to be preparing the way for and pointing toward dictatorship is Obama & Co. trying to create a separate civilian power base outside of the military—his “Civilian National Security Force” (and don’t try to tell me that the proposal and formation of such a “people’s, or mass organization,” such a massive “Civilian National Security Force” is normal practice here in America, cause I ain’t buying) that could be very useful as a loyal force that could be used for things like voting fraud, intimidation, and as a recruiting ground for a few, very willing thugs, if our regular military forces would not comply with Obama & Co.’s commands.