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		<title>By: OBloodyhell</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/30/obamas-dukakis-moment/#comment-139180</link>
		<dc:creator>OBloodyhell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 11:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; &lt;i&gt;By then, Bush had proven himself to the American people through his behavior during the crucible of 9/11...&lt;/i&gt;

LOL, that comment is reminiscent of my observation of Dan Rather&#039;s somewhat insane attempt to smear Bush&#039;s military record. Kerry was the one attempting to claim military creds, not Bush, who had, by that point, already handled 9/11, the War in Iraq and Afghanistan sufficiently (if not perfectly) well that his TANG service was totally irrelevant to that election.

Rather wouldn&#039;t have made a blip on Bush even IF the allegations he so stupidly &quot;found out about&quot; had been true.

Bush didn&#039;t NEED to prove his cred in that area, he&#039;d already done the job adequately.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; <i>By then, Bush had proven himself to the American people through his behavior during the crucible of 9/11&#8230;</i></p>
<p>LOL, that comment is reminiscent of my observation of Dan Rather&#8217;s somewhat insane attempt to smear Bush&#8217;s military record. Kerry was the one attempting to claim military creds, not Bush, who had, by that point, already handled 9/11, the War in Iraq and Afghanistan sufficiently (if not perfectly) well that his TANG service was totally irrelevant to that election.</p>
<p>Rather wouldn&#8217;t have made a blip on Bush even IF the allegations he so stupidly &#8220;found out about&#8221; had been true.</p>
<p>Bush didn&#8217;t NEED to prove his cred in that area, he&#8217;d already done the job adequately.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/30/obamas-dukakis-moment/#comment-139107</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Btw, Roseanne Barr exhibits many of the same symptoms. If it wouldn’t be too much to ask…&lt;/i&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t recommend that for her.  it would probably just make her angrier and more leftist.

Mo Dowd&#039;s trouble is obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Btw, Roseanne Barr exhibits many of the same symptoms. If it wouldn’t be too much to ask…</i></p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t recommend that for her.  it would probably just make her angrier and more leftist.</p>
<p>Mo Dowd&#8217;s trouble is obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: SAB</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/30/obamas-dukakis-moment/#comment-139068</link>
		<dc:creator>SAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recent Presidential Demeanors:

Clinton:  Fake squinty-eyed lip-biter or pissed off and beet red in the face. Cocky.

Bush:  A little verklempt especially when speaking to or about our troops or 911.  Cocky.

Obama: Wooden cigar store indian statue, just not as noble.  Howdy Doody smile. Cocky.

I&#039;m seeing a certain trend....hmmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recent Presidential Demeanors:</p>
<p>Clinton:  Fake squinty-eyed lip-biter or pissed off and beet red in the face. Cocky.</p>
<p>Bush:  A little verklempt especially when speaking to or about our troops or 911.  Cocky.</p>
<p>Obama: Wooden cigar store indian statue, just not as noble.  Howdy Doody smile. Cocky.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m seeing a certain trend&#8230;.hmmm</p>
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		<title>By: turfmann</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/30/obamas-dukakis-moment/#comment-139065</link>
		<dc:creator>turfmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me throw some cold water on this notion that Bush did not respond in a timely manner to the attempted bombing perpetrated by Reid, the shoebomber.

I live on Cape Cod close enough to the Otis Air National Guard Base such that I only own the air rights above my home to a height of 200 feet; the United States Air Force owns the air rights above that.

When the winds are out of the North, the F-15&#039;s would take off over my house, something that you would think would be annoying but really was not, rather it impressed me greatly especially knowing some of the pilots.

Being around these impressive feats of engineering, you can get a sense of the intentions and emotions of the pilots as they fly thought the air.  Sometimes they are just having fun, sometimes they are just getting in some touch and go landings, etc.  Right after 9/11, there was nothing but a grim sense of purpose as they kept a round the clock vigil in the skies.  Nothing like a sortie taking off at 03:00 to wake you up.

So when I was sitting in my living room that day and I heard the very subtle and familiar sound, much like a vacuum cleaner, approaching it did not startle me or surprise me.  When they finally reached my house and turned skyward at full afterburner there was no question in my mind that something was terribly wrong.  The entire house shook, windows rattled such that you would think that they&#039;d break.  There was no need to turn to Fox News to find out if something was up, the pilots had already told me that.

So I contend that Bush&#039;s response, as Commander-in-Chief, was instantaneous and robust.  A hijacked or compromised aircraft had already been proven to be a formidable weapon and if it needed to be neutralized, he had the assets in place ready to do it.

And I am witness to that fact personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me throw some cold water on this notion that Bush did not respond in a timely manner to the attempted bombing perpetrated by Reid, the shoebomber.</p>
<p>I live on Cape Cod close enough to the Otis Air National Guard Base such that I only own the air rights above my home to a height of 200 feet; the United States Air Force owns the air rights above that.</p>
<p>When the winds are out of the North, the F-15&#8242;s would take off over my house, something that you would think would be annoying but really was not, rather it impressed me greatly especially knowing some of the pilots.</p>
<p>Being around these impressive feats of engineering, you can get a sense of the intentions and emotions of the pilots as they fly thought the air.  Sometimes they are just having fun, sometimes they are just getting in some touch and go landings, etc.  Right after 9/11, there was nothing but a grim sense of purpose as they kept a round the clock vigil in the skies.  Nothing like a sortie taking off at 03:00 to wake you up.</p>
<p>So when I was sitting in my living room that day and I heard the very subtle and familiar sound, much like a vacuum cleaner, approaching it did not startle me or surprise me.  When they finally reached my house and turned skyward at full afterburner there was no question in my mind that something was terribly wrong.  The entire house shook, windows rattled such that you would think that they&#8217;d break.  There was no need to turn to Fox News to find out if something was up, the pilots had already told me that.</p>
<p>So I contend that Bush&#8217;s response, as Commander-in-Chief, was instantaneous and robust.  A hijacked or compromised aircraft had already been proven to be a formidable weapon and if it needed to be neutralized, he had the assets in place ready to do it.</p>
<p>And I am witness to that fact personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Wandriaan</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/30/obamas-dukakis-moment/#comment-139062</link>
		<dc:creator>Wandriaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading the piece of M. Dowd I conclude that she has still the typical boomer disease: perpetual adolescence. The whole thing is about &#039;not being retro, old fashioned, fifties&#039; and being &#039;cool, advanced and modern&#039;. To me it is amazing that this essentially childish mindset still goes for serious journalism.
Much of the Obama adulation is the same thing: &#039;How cool he is!&#039;
Needless to say that the whole piece showed almost no contact with the realities of warfare in an age of Islamic terrorism and Western decadence.
The New York Times was once &#039;the gray lady&#039;. Many say that today the Times is no longer &#039;the gray lady&#039;, but &#039;the gray witch&#039;.
Perhaps that is not correct. Perhaps it is &#039;the middle aged wannabe high school girl&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the piece of M. Dowd I conclude that she has still the typical boomer disease: perpetual adolescence. The whole thing is about &#8216;not being retro, old fashioned, fifties&#8217; and being &#8216;cool, advanced and modern&#8217;. To me it is amazing that this essentially childish mindset still goes for serious journalism.<br />
Much of the Obama adulation is the same thing: &#8216;How cool he is!&#8217;<br />
Needless to say that the whole piece showed almost no contact with the realities of warfare in an age of Islamic terrorism and Western decadence.<br />
The New York Times was once &#8216;the gray lady&#8217;. Many say that today the Times is no longer &#8216;the gray lady&#8217;, but &#8216;the gray witch&#8217;.<br />
Perhaps that is not correct. Perhaps it is &#8216;the middle aged wannabe high school girl&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Occam's Beard</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/30/obamas-dukakis-moment/#comment-139046</link>
		<dc:creator>Occam's Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 06:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I see the problem here, and I’m the man for it: I’m willing to take one for the team and bone Maureen Dowd!&lt;/i&gt;

Good God, I salute your selflessness, sir! Plunging in where no other man dare (or wanted to)! 

Btw, Roseanne Barr exhibits many of the same symptoms. If it wouldn&#039;t be too much to ask...

Yeah, I thought it would be. Couldn&#039;t hurt to ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I see the problem here, and I’m the man for it: I’m willing to take one for the team and bone Maureen Dowd!</i></p>
<p>Good God, I salute your selflessness, sir! Plunging in where no other man dare (or wanted to)! </p>
<p>Btw, Roseanne Barr exhibits many of the same symptoms. If it wouldn&#8217;t be too much to ask&#8230;</p>
<p>Yeah, I thought it would be. Couldn&#8217;t hurt to ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/30/obamas-dukakis-moment/#comment-139043</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 05:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  I love that MoDo crapped on him, long and loudly, but she is still a total dope:

&lt;i&gt;W., Dick Cheney and Rummy kept ceaselessly dragging us back into the past. America seemed to have lost her ingenuity, her quickness, her man-on-the-moon bravura, her Bugs Bunny panache.&lt;/i&gt;

Mo....  Mo, honey....  All those things came and went before I was born &lt;i&gt;and I&#039;m 40!&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;W.’s favorite word was “resolute,” but despite gazillions spent and Cheney’s bluster, our efforts to shield ourselves seemed flaccid.&lt;/i&gt;

Sweetheart, after making fun of &quot;cowboys&quot;, &quot;men&quot;, &quot;soldiers&quot;  and &quot;militia types&quot; for years, now you want the Big Dick of protection and satisfaction?

&lt;i&gt;Even before a Nigerian with Al Qaeda links tried to blow up a Northwest Airlines jet headed to Detroit, travelers could see we had made no progress toward a technologically wondrous Philip K. Dick universe. &lt;/i&gt;

My fiery red-locked chinchilla....  Sweetie, don&#039;t you know Philip K. Dick was master of future dystopia?  Of not-wonderous, dysfunctional technology?  But I understand, you were confused &#039;cuz you still want the wondrous Dick in your &quot;universe&quot;.

I see the problem here, and I&#039;m the man for it:  I&#039;m willing to &lt;i&gt;take one for the team&lt;/i&gt; and bone Maureen Dowd!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  I love that MoDo crapped on him, long and loudly, but she is still a total dope:</p>
<p><i>W., Dick Cheney and Rummy kept ceaselessly dragging us back into the past. America seemed to have lost her ingenuity, her quickness, her man-on-the-moon bravura, her Bugs Bunny panache.</i></p>
<p>Mo&#8230;.  Mo, honey&#8230;.  All those things came and went before I was born <i>and I&#8217;m 40!</i></p>
<p><i>W.’s favorite word was “resolute,” but despite gazillions spent and Cheney’s bluster, our efforts to shield ourselves seemed flaccid.</i></p>
<p>Sweetheart, after making fun of &#8220;cowboys&#8221;, &#8220;men&#8221;, &#8220;soldiers&#8221;  and &#8220;militia types&#8221; for years, now you want the Big Dick of protection and satisfaction?</p>
<p><i>Even before a Nigerian with Al Qaeda links tried to blow up a Northwest Airlines jet headed to Detroit, travelers could see we had made no progress toward a technologically wondrous Philip K. Dick universe. </i></p>
<p>My fiery red-locked chinchilla&#8230;.  Sweetie, don&#8217;t you know Philip K. Dick was master of future dystopia?  Of not-wonderous, dysfunctional technology?  But I understand, you were confused &#8216;cuz you still want the wondrous Dick in your &#8220;universe&#8221;.</p>
<p>I see the problem here, and I&#8217;m the man for it:  I&#8217;m willing to <i>take one for the team</i> and bone Maureen Dowd!</p>
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		<title>By: huxley</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/30/obamas-dukakis-moment/#comment-139041</link>
		<dc:creator>huxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 04:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do you have any thoughts as to how this might play out–say, impeachment or resignation or some other mechanism?&lt;/i&gt;

betsybounds: I don&#039;t think Obama has the stamina to be President for four years even if it&#039;s going well. 

It hasn&#039;t been going well and 2010 is going to be worse for Obama as the economy continues to sputter, American casualties increase in Afghanistan, bond auctions go soft or fail, more scandals emerge in Obama&#039;s programs or among his allies, healthcare passes or fails but in either case angers millions of Americans, the left starts attacking Obama in earnest, and the Democrats look at a rout in the midterm elections -- plus some nasty surprises in foreign policy/national security like more terrorist attacks or Iran getting the bomb, Russia invading a neighbor, etc.

I see no wins ahead for Obama, no adulation, just more hard slogs through big problems made worse because Obama&#039;s mojo is gone. Who can take him and his word seriously anymore?

OK. Getting to the point, I consider it likely that Obama will break down, publicly or privately, and not be able to do the job anymore. He will then resign for &quot;health reasons&quot; or perhaps his advisers and some top Dem leader will form a shadow regency and try to run things with Obama as a figurehead.

It&#039;s possible that Obama could break through and rise to the occasion, but I wouldn&#039;t bet on it.

There is an emptiness to Obama, as &lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704254604574614540488450188.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shelby Steele&lt;/a&gt; explained today in the WSJ, that will not sustain Obama when the going gets hard. 

Obama has never truly been tested. He will hit a crisis point and it&#039;s going to be a terrifying moment for him and for all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do you have any thoughts as to how this might play out–say, impeachment or resignation or some other mechanism?</i></p>
<p>betsybounds: I don&#8217;t think Obama has the stamina to be President for four years even if it&#8217;s going well. </p>
<p>It hasn&#8217;t been going well and 2010 is going to be worse for Obama as the economy continues to sputter, American casualties increase in Afghanistan, bond auctions go soft or fail, more scandals emerge in Obama&#8217;s programs or among his allies, healthcare passes or fails but in either case angers millions of Americans, the left starts attacking Obama in earnest, and the Democrats look at a rout in the midterm elections &#8212; plus some nasty surprises in foreign policy/national security like more terrorist attacks or Iran getting the bomb, Russia invading a neighbor, etc.</p>
<p>I see no wins ahead for Obama, no adulation, just more hard slogs through big problems made worse because Obama&#8217;s mojo is gone. Who can take him and his word seriously anymore?</p>
<p>OK. Getting to the point, I consider it likely that Obama will break down, publicly or privately, and not be able to do the job anymore. He will then resign for &#8220;health reasons&#8221; or perhaps his advisers and some top Dem leader will form a shadow regency and try to run things with Obama as a figurehead.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that Obama could break through and rise to the occasion, but I wouldn&#8217;t bet on it.</p>
<p>There is an emptiness to Obama, as <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704254604574614540488450188.html" rel="nofollow">Shelby Steele</a> explained today in the WSJ, that will not sustain Obama when the going gets hard. </p>
<p>Obama has never truly been tested. He will hit a crisis point and it&#8217;s going to be a terrifying moment for him and for all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: betsybounds</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/30/obamas-dukakis-moment/#comment-139040</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 04:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, &lt;i&gt;Reason&lt;/i&gt; magazine published a fascinating article in 1994 entitled, &lt;i&gt;Can the President Think?&lt;/i&gt; (http://reason.com/archives/1994/11/01/can-the-president-think/singlepage).  It had to do with Bill Clinton&#039;s mental processes, and documented that some thought, back then, that Clinton had at least one of any number of psychological disorders, including but not limited to obsessive-compulsive disorder.  It fascinated me at the time, and I have recalled it recently, during the course of musing over Obama&#039;s possible mental states.  

I understand, of course, that anyone who reaches the position of POTUS may have one or more of several sorts of mental disorders having to do with a focus on power.  Anyway, it&#039;s interesting to notice how the Left has chosen leaders who may be pathological.  I wonder what Neo thinks of the piece, and its beyond-Clinton implications!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, <i>Reason</i> magazine published a fascinating article in 1994 entitled, <i>Can the President Think?</i> (<a href="http://reason.com/archives/1994/11/01/can-the-president-think/singlepage" rel="nofollow">http://reason.com/archives/1994/11/01/can-the-president-think/singlepage</a>).  It had to do with Bill Clinton&#8217;s mental processes, and documented that some thought, back then, that Clinton had at least one of any number of psychological disorders, including but not limited to obsessive-compulsive disorder.  It fascinated me at the time, and I have recalled it recently, during the course of musing over Obama&#8217;s possible mental states.  </p>
<p>I understand, of course, that anyone who reaches the position of POTUS may have one or more of several sorts of mental disorders having to do with a focus on power.  Anyway, it&#8217;s interesting to notice how the Left has chosen leaders who may be pathological.  I wonder what Neo thinks of the piece, and its beyond-Clinton implications!</p>
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		<title>By: huxley</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/12/30/obamas-dukakis-moment/#comment-139038</link>
		<dc:creator>huxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 03:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the heck of it, I browsed through the home page of the Daily Kos to gauge the kossack reactions to the Christmas bomber.

Pretty predictable. The lead concerned a poll declaring Obama the most admired man of 2009. Several diaries went apoplectic over Cheney&#039;s attacks on the White House. Then there was the usual assortment of Dem electoral strategy minutiae items. A few side diaries salivated over reports of Limbaugh suffering chest pains.

No diaries pondered the serious issues of what Obama himself calls &quot;a catastrophic systemic breakdown.&quot;

Knock on wood, but I suspect that Obama will provide such a searing series of &quot;teachable moments&quot; that America will never again elect a New Left candidate and the netroots will go off to sulk and leave politics to grownups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the heck of it, I browsed through the home page of the Daily Kos to gauge the kossack reactions to the Christmas bomber.</p>
<p>Pretty predictable. The lead concerned a poll declaring Obama the most admired man of 2009. Several diaries went apoplectic over Cheney&#8217;s attacks on the White House. Then there was the usual assortment of Dem electoral strategy minutiae items. A few side diaries salivated over reports of Limbaugh suffering chest pains.</p>
<p>No diaries pondered the serious issues of what Obama himself calls &#8220;a catastrophic systemic breakdown.&#8221;</p>
<p>Knock on wood, but I suspect that Obama will provide such a searing series of &#8220;teachable moments&#8221; that America will never again elect a New Left candidate and the netroots will go off to sulk and leave politics to grownups.</p>
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