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		<title>By: rickl</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2010/01/14/dare-we-believe/#comment-141292</link>
		<dc:creator>rickl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Republican Party doesn&#039;t work to abolish open primaries, the same thing will happen again next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Republican Party doesn&#8217;t work to abolish open primaries, the same thing will happen again next time.</p>
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		<title>By: A_Nonny_Mouse</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2010/01/14/dare-we-believe/#comment-141122</link>
		<dc:creator>A_Nonny_Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;know, if some blogger told ME, &quot;Yes it sucks but you have to vote for XYZ&quot;, I might just say in my heart-of-hearts, &quot;Oh, ya THINK so?  What if  *I*  don&#039;t wanna, butthead?&quot;   Then I&#039;d go vote for whoever-I-damn-well pleased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;know, if some blogger told ME, &#8220;Yes it sucks but you have to vote for XYZ&#8221;, I might just say in my heart-of-hearts, &#8220;Oh, ya THINK so?  What if  *I*  don&#8217;t wanna, butthead?&#8221;   Then I&#8217;d go vote for whoever-I-damn-well pleased.</p>
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		<title>By: grackle</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2010/01/14/dare-we-believe/#comment-141094</link>
		<dc:creator>grackle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Who is this “they” are your referring to? I was a good little soldier and held my nose until it hurt, and voted for McLame. And yes Brown and people like him would indeed still be needed today. What planet are YOU from?&lt;/i&gt;

Here’s the comment in full:

&lt;i&gt;I can sort of relate to, and sympathize with, the Blue Mass reluctant and painful endorsement: “Coakley sucks, but hold your nose and vote for her anyway because not voting for her is a vote for Brown.”

Legions of us on the other side of the spectrum were told the same thing about the unfortunate but critical “need” cast our vote for John McCain.

It is terrible when there is nobody on the ballet you want to vote for.&lt;/i&gt;

The commentor compares reluctantly voting for Coakley to reluctantly voting for McCain – as if there were no difference between liberal-leaning voters reluctantly voting for Coakley and certain disappointed conservative-leaning voters reluctantly voting for McCain. Their lack of enthusiasm helped sink the McCain/Palin boat. Many of them did not hold their nose – indeed, many of them(“legions”) stayed home on voting day. And of course, it should be pointed out that elections are never won with reluctance. 

There were disappointed Hillary supporters on the other side but after an initial show of disappointment they campaigned vigorously for Obama, flooded the polls on voting day and enthusiastically pulled the lever for the Democrat’s choice. I cannot help wondering what might have happened if the commentor and his “legions” had done the same.

The primaries are designed to pick one candidate from among many. No matter who wins the primaries there are always disappointed supporters of candidates who were not nominated. But once the primaries are over and the nominee picked it is expected that voters on all sides will get behind the candidates. 

But the commentor didn’t do that – no, the commentor held his nose and look at the result: A Progressive(or worse) in the Whitehouse, a Progressive-controlled Congress and a nation well on its way to a weak European-style economy and foreign policy - with all our hopes for ditching an abomination of a national healthcare bill hanging on a special election in Massachusetts.  

As on the commentor’s planet, on my planet our preferred candidate also did not win the primaries but we quickly swallowed our disappointment, gave money to the GOP and the McCain/Palin ticket, enthusiastically campaigned among our friends and family for the GOP ticket and marched to the polls, our McCain/Palin buttons proudly displayed. Would that some others could have done the same. 

I worry that the same lack of judgement will prevail among the commentor’s “legions” in the next Presidential election. The fact that McCain-haters among the Right still, even at this late date, try to lamely justify their behavior during the last election should give all of us cause for misgivings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Who is this “they” are your referring to? I was a good little soldier and held my nose until it hurt, and voted for McLame. And yes Brown and people like him would indeed still be needed today. What planet are YOU from?</i></p>
<p>Here’s the comment in full:</p>
<p><i>I can sort of relate to, and sympathize with, the Blue Mass reluctant and painful endorsement: “Coakley sucks, but hold your nose and vote for her anyway because not voting for her is a vote for Brown.”</p>
<p>Legions of us on the other side of the spectrum were told the same thing about the unfortunate but critical “need” cast our vote for John McCain.</p>
<p>It is terrible when there is nobody on the ballet you want to vote for.</i></p>
<p>The commentor compares reluctantly voting for Coakley to reluctantly voting for McCain – as if there were no difference between liberal-leaning voters reluctantly voting for Coakley and certain disappointed conservative-leaning voters reluctantly voting for McCain. Their lack of enthusiasm helped sink the McCain/Palin boat. Many of them did not hold their nose – indeed, many of them(“legions”) stayed home on voting day. And of course, it should be pointed out that elections are never won with reluctance. </p>
<p>There were disappointed Hillary supporters on the other side but after an initial show of disappointment they campaigned vigorously for Obama, flooded the polls on voting day and enthusiastically pulled the lever for the Democrat’s choice. I cannot help wondering what might have happened if the commentor and his “legions” had done the same.</p>
<p>The primaries are designed to pick one candidate from among many. No matter who wins the primaries there are always disappointed supporters of candidates who were not nominated. But once the primaries are over and the nominee picked it is expected that voters on all sides will get behind the candidates. </p>
<p>But the commentor didn’t do that – no, the commentor held his nose and look at the result: A Progressive(or worse) in the Whitehouse, a Progressive-controlled Congress and a nation well on its way to a weak European-style economy and foreign policy &#8211; with all our hopes for ditching an abomination of a national healthcare bill hanging on a special election in Massachusetts.  </p>
<p>As on the commentor’s planet, on my planet our preferred candidate also did not win the primaries but we quickly swallowed our disappointment, gave money to the GOP and the McCain/Palin ticket, enthusiastically campaigned among our friends and family for the GOP ticket and marched to the polls, our McCain/Palin buttons proudly displayed. Would that some others could have done the same. </p>
<p>I worry that the same lack of judgement will prevail among the commentor’s “legions” in the next Presidential election. The fact that McCain-haters among the Right still, even at this late date, try to lamely justify their behavior during the last election should give all of us cause for misgivings.</p>
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		<title>By: southernjames</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2010/01/14/dare-we-believe/#comment-141089</link>
		<dc:creator>southernjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ve resolved to challenge these little salutes to silliness whenever I stumble across them.&quot;

And I&#039;ve resolved to respond to holier than thou, sanctimonious douchebags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve resolved to challenge these little salutes to silliness whenever I stumble across them.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve resolved to respond to holier than thou, sanctimonious douchebags.</p>
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		<title>By: southernjames</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2010/01/14/dare-we-believe/#comment-141088</link>
		<dc:creator>southernjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is this &quot;they&quot; are your referring to?   

I was a good little soldier and held my nose until it hurt, and voted for McLame.   

And yes Brown and people like him would indeed still be needed today.  

What planet are YOU from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is this &#8220;they&#8221; are your referring to?   </p>
<p>I was a good little soldier and held my nose until it hurt, and voted for McLame.   </p>
<p>And yes Brown and people like him would indeed still be needed today.  </p>
<p>What planet are YOU from?</p>
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		<title>By: grackle</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2010/01/14/dare-we-believe/#comment-141083</link>
		<dc:creator>grackle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Legions of us on the other side of the spectrum were told the same thing about the unfortunate but critical “need” cast our vote for John McCain.&lt;/i&gt;

Even the casual blog reader must come across these attempted justifications for the assistance by some on the Right in elevating Obama to the Whitehouse and the Democrats to a huge majority in Congress. They alternate between claiming Obama wants to subvert American democracy and congratulating themselves for their betrayal in the last election and never seem to realize the inherent contradiction. I’ve resolved to challenge these little salutes to silliness whenever I stumble across them.

If McCain and the Republicans had won over Obama and the Democrats then Brown probably wouldn’t be needed today. Yes, it WAS a “critical need,” and yes, the commentor and “legions” like him did a very stupid thing. Let’s all hope and pray they DON’T do it again the next time around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Legions of us on the other side of the spectrum were told the same thing about the unfortunate but critical “need” cast our vote for John McCain.</i></p>
<p>Even the casual blog reader must come across these attempted justifications for the assistance by some on the Right in elevating Obama to the Whitehouse and the Democrats to a huge majority in Congress. They alternate between claiming Obama wants to subvert American democracy and congratulating themselves for their betrayal in the last election and never seem to realize the inherent contradiction. I’ve resolved to challenge these little salutes to silliness whenever I stumble across them.</p>
<p>If McCain and the Republicans had won over Obama and the Democrats then Brown probably wouldn’t be needed today. Yes, it WAS a “critical need,” and yes, the commentor and “legions” like him did a very stupid thing. Let’s all hope and pray they DON’T do it again the next time around.</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2010/01/14/dare-we-believe/#comment-141081</link>
		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pittman: Right, if you are a Catholic, and believe what the Pope teaches that any form of birth control is a sin. ah you don&#039;t want to do that.
Coakley: No we have a seperation of church and state Ken, lets be clear.
Pittman: In the emergency room you still have your religious freedom.
Coakley: (......uh, eh...um..) The law says that people are allowed to have that. You can have religious freedom but you probably shouldn&#039;t work in the emergency room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pittman: Right, if you are a Catholic, and believe what the Pope teaches that any form of birth control is a sin. ah you don&#8217;t want to do that.<br />
Coakley: No we have a seperation of church and state Ken, lets be clear.<br />
Pittman: In the emergency room you still have your religious freedom.<br />
Coakley: (&#8230;&#8230;uh, eh&#8230;um..) The law says that people are allowed to have that. You can have religious freedom but you probably shouldn&#8217;t work in the emergency room.</p>
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		<title>By: effess</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2010/01/14/dare-we-believe/#comment-141080</link>
		<dc:creator>effess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A PajamasMedia/CrossTarget Poll has Brown up by 15%!!!!!

Here for details:

http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A PajamasMedia/CrossTarget Poll has Brown up by 15%!!!!!</p>
<p>Here for details:</p>
<p><a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/" rel="nofollow">http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2010/01/14/dare-we-believe/#comment-141079</link>
		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although Brown&#039;s 4-point lead over Democrat Martha Coakley is within the Suffolk University/7News survey&#039;s margin of error, the underdog&#039;s position at the top of the results stunned even pollster David Paleologos.
&quot;It&#039;s a Brown-out,&quot; said Paleologos, director of Suffolk&#039;s Political Research Center. &quot;It&#039;s a massive change in the political landscape.&quot;
The poll shows Brown, a state senator from Wrentham, besting Coakley, the state&#039;s attorney general, by 50 percent to 46 percent, the first major survey to show Brown in the lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although Brown&#8217;s 4-point lead over Democrat Martha Coakley is within the Suffolk University/7News survey&#8217;s margin of error, the underdog&#8217;s position at the top of the results stunned even pollster David Paleologos.<br />
&#8220;It&#8217;s a Brown-out,&#8221; said Paleologos, director of Suffolk&#8217;s Political Research Center. &#8220;It&#8217;s a massive change in the political landscape.&#8221;<br />
The poll shows Brown, a state senator from Wrentham, besting Coakley, the state&#8217;s attorney general, by 50 percent to 46 percent, the first major survey to show Brown in the lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2010/01/14/dare-we-believe/#comment-141078</link>
		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and we all &quot;share the same IQ&quot; department:

Angry Haitians set up roadblocks with corpses in Port-au-Prince to protest at the delay in emergency aid reaching them after a devastating earthquake, an eyewitness said. 

&lt;i&gt;So, in these people&#039;s minds, it makes sense to protest that you aren&#039;t getting aid fast enough... by blocking the people from getting aid to you.... with corpses! &lt;/i&gt; MB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and we all &#8220;share the same IQ&#8221; department:</p>
<p>Angry Haitians set up roadblocks with corpses in Port-au-Prince to protest at the delay in emergency aid reaching them after a devastating earthquake, an eyewitness said. </p>
<p><i>So, in these people&#8217;s minds, it makes sense to protest that you aren&#8217;t getting aid fast enough&#8230; by blocking the people from getting aid to you&#8230;. with corpses! </i> MB</p>
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