“what you are seeing is the starts fo counter revolution, and you think its going to set thigns straight. it doesnt. that is, counter revoluition is part of the process. rather than attempt some unnatural thing as a revolution with no dissenters, the system does a kind of judo move and requires their change when they find out the truth,. they then show the revolution that the control of the press will push is not what it is.”

If so then, to use a famous phrase, “What is to be done?” and “Who? Whom?”

What is the treatment for the disease at this point? Is it to steal a march on Lenin and institute his “Black Hundreds” methods?

For that tender mercy.

Nobody, but nobody, is going to read that mudslide of information with no sane paragraphing, no sane use of capitalization, and no punctuation restraint whatsoever.

I knew ee cummings, sir, and you sir, are no ee cummings.

Do you have any sense of terse, sir? Have you at long last no sense of terse?

Vote for the Bolsheviks!

from
Counter-Revolution Takes the Offensive
“JACOBINS WITHOUT THE PEOPLE”
Pravda No. 68, June 10 (May 28), 1917.
Published according to the text in Pravda.
Author: V. I. Lenin

as for the rest i am posting
please forgive.. i could not find a english copy of “dangerous Symptoms” to go preceding the work below. which then brings us to lenins other work:

How to Fight Counter-Revolution—First published in Pravda No. 84, June 30 (17), 1917
V. I. Lenin

let me know if this sounds familiar in light of tea bagging and pelosi

Only a few days ago, Minister Tsereteli declared in his “historic” speech that there was no counter-revolution. Today the ministerial Rabochaya Gazeta strikes an entirely different note in the article “Dangerous Symptoms”.

“There are clear indications that a counter-revolution is afoot .” Thanks for finally admitting the fact at least. But the ministerial organ goes on to say: “We do not know where it [the counter-revolution] has its headquarters, nor to what extent it is organised.”

that a real grass roots thing has sprung up, and its not under their control. all the others, like 60s riots, and such WAS under their control. he pointed out in this artile that the counter revolution is in your own offices. and so turned the state in on itself to first purify its offices of those who have other ideas. the honeymoon period of their reign is used to do this. its a time when the people will give the other too much rope.

Rabochaya Gazeta later points out that the counter-revolution’s chief instrument is the press, which is fomenting anti-semitism, inciting the masses against the Jews. That is correct. But what is the conclusion? You are a ministerial party, gentlemen, aren’t you? What have you done to curb the infamous counter-revolutionary press?

What have you done to fight the counter-revolutionary press which is doing all it can to bait our Party? Nothing! You yourselves have supplied material for that baiting. You have been busy fighting the danger on the Left. You are reaping what you have sown, gentlemen. So it was, so it will be—as long as you continue to vacillate between the bourgeoisie and the revolutionary proletariat.

remember this was written in 1917… so our own revolutionary democrats are doing what?

i am sorry… but is there ANYONE other than me who took the time to read this stuff? and not pretend they did? you can go back to before the revolution

Revolution and Counter-Revolution—Proletary, No. 17, October 20, 1907—V I Lenin

At a moment like the present, a comparison between the revolution and counter-revolution in Russia, between the period of revolutionary onslaught (1905) and that of counter-revolutionary playing with a constitution (1906 and 1907) suggests itself as a matter of course. Such a comparison is implicit in any attempt to define a political line for the immediate future. Contrasting “errors of the revolution” or “revolutionary illusions” with “positive constitutional work” is the keynote of present-day political literature. The Cadets shout about it at their pre-election meetings. The liberal press chants, howls, and rants about it. We have here Mr. Struve, vehemently and spitefully venting his annoyance on the revolutionaries because hopes of a “compromise” have totally collapsed.

We have here Milyukov, who, for all his mincing manners and Jesuitism, has been forced by events to arrive at the clear,accurate and—above all—truthful statement: “the enemies are on the left”.

We have here publicists in the vein of Tovarishch, such as Kuskova, Smirnov, Plekhanov, Gorn, Yordansky, Cherevanin, and others who denounce the October-December struggle as folly, and more or less openly advocate a “democratic” coalition with the Cadets. The real Cadet elements in this turbid stream express the counter-revolutionary interests of the bourgeoisie and the boundless servility of intellectualist philistinism.

As for the elements which have not yet sunk quite to the level of Struve, their dominant feature is failure to understand the connection between revolution and counter-revolution in Russia, an inability to see everything we have experienced as an integral social movement developing in accordance with its own inner logic.

so just to warn you guys in your thinking that this is a good turn. ‘

its not.. its the turn that HAS to happen. the left has been lied to… the organs of the left have unthrowned freedom, and are finishing up the job.

what you are seeing is the starts fo counter revolution, and you think its going to set thigns straight. it doesnt. that is, counter revoluition is part of the process. rather than attempt some unnatural thing as a revolution with no dissenters, the system does a kind of judo move and requires their change when they find out the truth,. they then show the revolution that the control of the press will push is not what it is.

so real soon… as i said way way way way way back—-the people are not going to be happy when they start to realize. then there will be a counter revolution… but the people in power will not be as nice as the prior people who were comparitively helpless. without the counter revolution of the leftists and liberals trying to fix what they did… the revolution would fail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no one even tried to get what i am saying as far as tactically…. they do all this…

the people help them
they trick the people
the people helping them become fanatical agaisnt them
they then act out and do things and those things are told to us to be from the enemy (you can see it in the shooting at the jewish museum).

those who dont know how this works, depending on each side, acts out in the right maner to affect the change in state.

so while the tea people are nice… the next wave of leftsts that will join them will be the cranks who ahve been riled up into revolutionary furvor but not allowed to actually attack and do much of antyhing.

now they will be let go… their keepers will not stop them. they will act out on their own. and their work will be assigned to the other side, and so there will be a reason to act.

we are just leaving “the period of revolutionary onslaught”…

i will bet that none of you ever heard that one before

(just like you never heard engels and marx quote as to the revolutionary holocaust that would exterminate those who are not to be for the future. like jews, the religious, prols, etc)

here he is pointing out that YOU are the ones who will make this work.

i said it was a process…
yet no one wanted to find out about it

they all instead wanted to feel good about their actions in ignorance!!!

The period of revolutionary onslaught demonstrated in action the class composition of Russia’s population and the attitude of the different classes towards the old autocracy. Events have now taught everyone, even people who are utter strangers to Marxism, to reckon the chronology of the revolution from January 9, 1905, that is, from the first consciously political movement of the masses belonging to a single definite class.

got that? the revolution starts when the people internalize the BS they are given. like feminism, socialism is not communism, etc, etc, etc, etc.

we are at the revolutions END…

and we (other than those in the know), know its the end of the first phase and the start of the final second phase.

[edited for length by neo-neocon]

The insurrection of five kulak districts should be pitilessly suppressed. The interests of the whole revolution require this because ‘the last decisive battle’ with the kulaks is now under way everywhere. An example must be demonstrated.

* 1. Hang (and make sure that the hanging takes place in full view of the people) no fewer than one hundred known landlords, rich men, bloodsuckers.
* 2. Publish their names.
* 3. Seize all their grain from them.
* 4. Designate hostages in accordance with yesterday’s telegram.
* Do it in such a fashion that for hundreds of kilometres around the people might see, tremble, know, shout: “they are strangling, and will strangle to death, the bloodsucking kulaks”.

Telegraph receipt and implementation.

Yours, V. Lenin.

PS: Find some truly hard people.”

“He should have started his Presidency advocating for something conservatives and liberals around the center can agree on, like equal rights for our fellow gay and lesbian citizens.”

Problem being, to a lefty, that’s crypto for ‘marriage’ so that they can forward their wedge issue. Gotta keep the gays on the reservation by making them think conservatives ‘hate’ them and one great way is pushing an issue that they can’t agree on for religious reasons. Sorta like stem cells. You can divide people and make your own camp dislike those anti science, theocratic, christitianists… who hate us! Side bennie, the hard left gets to attach religion and marriage. Two major goals since day one (since religion creates a system of divided loyalties.. to lefty politics.. and nuclear families are purveyors of middle class / non lefty values). Being that ‘liberals’ are often just the useful idiots to the hard left, they’re more than willing to forward this.

Now actual equal rights… that probably would fly.

Pryor started giggling, and Uncle Miltie just came apart and lost it. Richie got helpless, and kept saying “No, man, I’m not laughing at you. Really. Tee-hee.” Berle never recovered, and left in a huff (and a Buick…)

Hands down the most satisfying smackdown I ever saw. Think about it.