Not everybody’s an enemy and almost nobody here except for those “on a troll” are dumb. Just give the news please.

Hey! You! I’m listening but enough of the carping already. Enough with the “Sie folgen meinen Aufträgen und Sie sind glücklich, so zu tun.”

Okay? Quit whining and get on with it. I like your mind but you do need an attitude adjustment and a roil change.

He actually imagines that government spending works to fix an economy… the man is old enough to have observed the idiocy of this concept in person in the 70s, and yet “he still believes”!!

If you want to grasp the competence of anyone who is an economist, ask them what they think of Keynes. Before the seventies you could believe rationally that Keynes was right (though there was adequate evidence to the contrary)… after the seventies, though, you HAD to be a total moron to continue to follow it.

But what’s really, really amusing is that, if you had him detail the reasons why he is an idiot, they would all be wrong

It’s not like these fools are Getting Any Clue — they still support the same idiotic ideas they did before — they just don’t grasp that They Are Wrong All Around.

So said moron won’t support anything that works, or anything that will “sell” to the public as a whole. No, he’ll continue to push the same moronic agenda which has no chance of EVER winning, and then get pissed at THAT poor schlub politician for failing to get THAT agenda passed.

I’d feel sorry for Obama except that he only won by appealing to these rabidly liberal nitwits.

They have unrealistic expectations of what a lefty president can do in a center right free market country.

It’s related to having a lot of unrealistic opinions about… a lot of stuff… that no one ever challenges them on because usually it leads them to bash republicans. Sloppy thought was not discouraged.

[Those who went out and got the extra education tend to see what the others don’t...Or were taught not to see – like the residents of the emerald city]

I said that the good people remain the good people…And that the fringe gets and is all hyped up…[I have tried to explain this as a process. but hux, and others do not want there to be a process, and so no explanation every becomes whole as its ripped apart before they “get it”, and so believe they win a debate by obstinacy to the facts] But the fringe will find out that they are betrayed (as I explained a long time ago)…They are before and after being used to facilitate a change in state

They will get angry, and want to change it back by force – and I said at that time the people of the revolution become zealots to the counter-revolution.

The subject your on and don’t even know it, is counter-revolution. And so, you are still ignorant of what they think and have studied in the laboratory of history. (which is why they don’t want you to know history. an open honest history is like an open honest laboratory. All the IP is laid open to be learned from and acted upon. And you certainly wouldn’t want others to know the playbook and valid answers would you? duh)…Without their leaders holding them back and focusing them they will act on their own. When they act on their own, they will afford the state the excuse/impetus it needs to impose a change by force for our own safety. Then those signing statements that put off all elections and give us similar to PROGRESSIVE Germany

(go ahead look up the dictator and that word and see what comes up – goebells said they copied the ideas from us. they also wrote to us for advice, and got lots of help from many companies, like IBM, TIME, etc. that is these companies already know how to survive and operate in such a system. oh what an advantage they will have. no?)

We have gone through the first stage—-The point where peoples hopes are taken to unrealistically high levels. Think of this of the heady first years of Germany BEFORE war, before the final solution, before or as the devaluation of currency gave people no choice but to do what the messiah wanted, the time as they just took office and used that as a cover to restructure things. I gave you the very important word and its old definitions more than once.

The germans had a word for this PROCESS… Gleichschaltung Anyone look it up? [of course not, that would make posts like this SHORTER by being able to reference a common knowledge!!!! If ya want these things shorter, you have to help by learning] Or did they just stop at the old definitions I put as a teaser the second time (I put up its meaning the first time. but like my point on sociopath in March 2008, I am and was way too far ahead).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung —[The link, though its wiki, may not be considered “work safe” since it is about Nazi doctrines. The page has the flag of Germany at that time. a communist flag in red, that puts their symbol in the same place, the reverse swastika]

Gleichschaltung: meaning “coordination”, “making the same”, “bringing into line”, is a Nazi term for the process by which the Nazi regime successively established a system of totalitarian control over the individual, and tight coordination over all aspects of society and commerce.

Does any one else want to look into their play book? Then learn history, as history is their laboratory and textbook….Its why obama is considered to be a man who studied history!!! He didn’t study it for FACTS and DATES and NAMES….He studied it for process, where facts, dates, and names matter not!!!!!

Sheesh.. [are you coming up to speed yet hux?] They don’t have to BE nazi’s to copy and borrow the parts of the process…Do they? And by letting the process happen in other places first, they get to see the experiments and results by learning DETAILED history, something they deny you. [of course we wont let the people have ideas, ideas are more dangerous than guns and we don’t let them have that, do we? Stalin paraphrased]

The historian Richard J. Evans offered the term “forcible-coordination” in his most recent work on Nazi Germany.

What you see as bribes, graft and games… I see as a way to force different people in the state in power positions to comply. the carrot and stick. Be with us, and prosper, otherwise we will destroy you. (surprise surprise, that’s exactly what lenin said to do in that quote I put up! fancy progressives, socialists, and communists following marx, lenin and such.. amazing isnt it?)

The process right now is to make the others see the potentials. And this process of corruption is a ratchet; it only allows movement in one direction
Hence their term to describe it and name it: Gleichschaltung

One goal of this policy was to eliminate individualism by forcing everyone to adhere to a specific doctrine and way of thinking and to control as many aspects of life as possible using an invasive police force.

In germany it was called right thinking, in russia it was having a party mind, in the US its being politically correct. Of course to people who think that thoughts are everything and reality is secondary (even if they don’t conciously believe it but have taken it in), its easy to think that feminisms PC, is not what it is. just as its easy to see abortions planned parenthood started by a progressive eugenicist who hitlers people wrote to her people for advice and called it the negro project… would not be what it was always.

They just changed the labels.. Communism becomes progressivism…Communist totalitarian becomes communitarian…Progressive steals the label of liberal,…liberals move to libertarian…

The period from 1933 to around 1937 was characterized by the systematic elimination of non-Nazi organizations that could potentially influence people, such as trade unions and political parties. Those critical of Hitler’s agenda, especially his close ties with industry, were suppressed, intimidated or permanently silenced. The regime also assailed the influence of the churches, for example by instituting the Ministry of Ecclesiastical Affairs under Hanns Kerrl. Organizations that the administration could not eliminate, such as the education system, came under its direct control.
Nationalizing banks… cant silence them, ya need them
Tea partiers, silence them
Use the unions better than opposing them
(so that’s an improvement from history that others would use as a difference to assert difference)

They don’t have the power yet to do the things they want to do….I mean if they stood out, said what they were, unfurled a read banner an yelled for totalitarian control of your life… Would you follow? So naturally, to expect that and to deny everything else is silly….They will never come riding in on a banner that honestly describes the future
We wont help them.

….The times are different the people are different and the moves are variations on a theme so they seem different. …But there is only one goal for statists… so the end is not different. We are starting to enter the second stage….Where the highly emotional people who have been cultured that way, start to feel cheated. Feeling cheated has managed to keep African Americans from participating and claiming their share as they sit feeling owed (as Thomas sowell explained).

Right now, leftist leaders are starting to foment the fringe extreme useful idiots…..By NOT calming them down and focusing them….You can see it. They (leaders of the left) are now starting to talk down Obama. …They are starting to really inflame those same emotional people that they moved to put him into office. They are their army and they will get them to play both sides against themselves.

I said he may or may not be the one at the helm at this final game play….It will either be he that calms the seas of malcontent..
Or someone else will pop up and do it….But it’s coming…

[edited for length by neo-neocon]

Incorrect. Abe Lincoln.

Someone above suggested that the well-known Republican names of 2010 won’t be that conservative candidate who is predicted to win in 2012, but that it will be someone who rises up from “nowhere”. The problem is that the guy in the White House now rose up from nowhere. We need people with long track records… Sarah Palin’s got the vision I think, and she’s got a better track record than the Boy King (not that that’s saying much), but Reagan had decades of leadership experience in one form or another and he was a Presidential candidate longer than Obama’s been in politics. All successful presidents had long, proven track records of executive experience. That there is no heir apparent to the conservative “throne” is disheartening to me. “We” know what the country needs. The Tea Partiers know what the country needs. The Republicans, however, are a little late to the game on that. I’m not sure they _still_ have any idea what’s going on and what would win for them. After all, Brown was pretty much ignored by the party. To whom do we turn who can actually give a candidate that _can_ win, but more importantly _should_ win?

Remember, the country just got done throwing the Republicans out in 2006 and 2008, and for good reason. I don’t buy into all the hate for Bush, but on the domestic front, I was no fan of him at all. The Republican Congress was worse. Once again the country seems to be learning that no matter how bad the Republicans are, the Democrats are usually worse, but isn’t it time we had a party that wasn’t “bad”? This “Lesser of Two Evils” Party System is presiding over a slow but increasinglt inevitable decline of the greatest country in the world.

I keep hearing the logic that a third party can’t do it, and for the most part, I think it’s right, but like a battered wife who keeps returning to the brute, despite her better judgement, how does it benefit conservatives to continue to support and be subsequently betrayed by GOP just because they’re to only game in town?

… without perspective.