Comments on: Health care reform machinations: it occurs to me… http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:57:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Jed Skillman http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149971 Jed Skillman Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:59:38 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149971 Bulls eye. The advantage to the Slaughter Solution is that it puts time on the clock. This is a "whatever it takes" solution. It will take years for a challenge to reach the Supreme Court. By then, who knows what the make up of the court will be? In the mean time Democrats will proceed with nationalized health care as if it is legitimate. Bulls eye.

The advantage to the Slaughter Solution is that it puts time on the clock. This is a “whatever it takes” solution.

It will take years for a challenge to reach the Supreme Court. By then, who knows what the make up of the court will be? In the mean time Democrats will proceed with nationalized health care as if it is legitimate.

]]> By: Geoffrey de Bouillon http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149970 Geoffrey de Bouillon Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:40:42 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149970 The HCR machinations are consistent with the rest of the story with the Democrats and the current administration. I think that who they are and the nature of their program can be known by looking at their associates. Jeremiah “Black Liberation Theology” Wright, William “execute 25 million capitalists” Ayres, Van “avowed Communist” Jones, and so on. The Democrat Party has demonstrated a ‘win at any costs’ mentality for a number of years. The re-count follies were the best example. The character assassination of Judge Bork was an earlier example. And “Republicans want to starve children.” Ad nauseum. I'm sure there are earlier examples. Civility was lost long ago. These people will not stop, because they see this as their ‘window of opportunity.’ I used to believe that the Dems and the Trunks had the same goals for the country, but differed on the means. But no longer. We don’t want the same things, and we don’t want to live in the other side’s vision for America. I do not see how there is any acceptable compromise possible. They have convinced themselves that they walk on the side of the angels, and that anyone who opposes them is worthy of destruction. Our Constitutional Republic had a good run while it lasted. One sees the occasional comment on what will happen if they pass Obamacare. Is it possible that the other side will do the same thing if it doesn’t pass? We are entering uncharted waters, and regardless of the outcome of this administration, America will look very different after this sorts itself out. The HCR machinations are consistent with the rest of the story with the Democrats and the current administration. I think that who they are and the nature of their program can be known by looking at their associates. Jeremiah “Black Liberation Theology” Wright, William “execute 25 million capitalists” Ayres, Van “avowed Communist” Jones, and so on. The Democrat Party has demonstrated a ‘win at any costs’ mentality for a number of years. The re-count follies were the best example. The character assassination of Judge Bork was an earlier example. And “Republicans want to starve children.” Ad nauseum. I’m sure there are earlier examples. Civility was lost long ago. These people will not stop, because they see this as their ‘window of opportunity.’ I used to believe that the Dems and the Trunks had the same goals for the country, but differed on the means. But no longer. We don’t want the same things, and we don’t want to live in the other side’s vision for America. I do not see how there is any acceptable compromise possible. They have convinced themselves that they walk on the side of the angels, and that anyone who opposes them is worthy of destruction. Our Constitutional Republic had a good run while it lasted.

One sees the occasional comment on what will happen if they pass Obamacare. Is it possible that the other side will do the same thing if it doesn’t pass? We are entering uncharted waters, and regardless of the outcome of this administration, America will look very different after this sorts itself out.

]]> By: Artfldgr http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149967 Artfldgr Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:11:03 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149967 Who can seriously doubt ... that the power which a multi-millionaire, who may be my neighbor and perhaps my employer, has over me is very much less than that which the smallest [bureaucrat] possess who wields the coercive power of the state and on whose discretion it depends whether and how I am to be allowed to live or to work? Hayek Who can seriously doubt … that the power which a multi-millionaire, who may be my neighbor and perhaps my employer, has over me is very much less than that which the smallest [bureaucrat] possess who wields the coercive power of the state and on whose discretion it depends whether and how I am to be allowed to live or to work? Hayek

]]> By: Adrian http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149966 Adrian Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:11:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149966 With the President's reversal on the vote buying provisions in the Healthcare bill, it should be clear there is no length that he and the Dems won't go to in order to push this bill through. A hundred million for a vote here, judge appointment of someones brother there. Rules and principles are for suckers and losers. Welcome to "Honest (cough) Government". Goodbye America, it was good while it lasted. With the President’s reversal on the vote buying provisions in the Healthcare bill, it should be clear there is no length that he and the Dems won’t go to in order to push this bill through. A hundred million for a vote here, judge appointment of someones brother there. Rules and principles are for suckers and losers. Welcome to “Honest (cough) Government”. Goodbye America, it was good while it lasted.

]]> By: Artfldgr http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149963 Artfldgr Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:59:42 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149963 Psychopaths' brains wired to seek rewards, no matter the consequences http://www.physorg.com/print187775822.html "It may be that because of these exaggerated dopamine responses, once they focus on the chance to get a reward, psychopaths are unable to alter their attention until they get what they're after," Buckholtz said. Added Zald, "It's not just that they don't appreciate the potential threat, but that the anticipation or motivation for reward overwhelms those concerns." Psychopaths’ brains wired to seek rewards, no matter the consequences

http://www.physorg.com/print187775822.html

“It may be that because of these exaggerated dopamine responses, once they focus on the chance to get a reward, psychopaths are unable to alter their attention until they get what they’re after,” Buckholtz said. Added Zald, “It’s not just that they don’t appreciate the potential threat, but that the anticipation or motivation for reward overwhelms those concerns.”

]]> By: Assistant Village Idiot http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149962 Assistant Village Idiot Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:47:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149962 Tatterdemalian - heh. And again I say, Heh. Tatterdemalian – heh. And again I say, Heh.

]]> By: Sloan http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149957 Sloan Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:55:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149957 As P.J. O'Rourke said, (roughly) "Democrats believe in Santa Claus and Republicans believe in God. The only problem is there's no such thing as Santa Claus." As P.J. O’Rourke said, (roughly) “Democrats believe in Santa Claus and Republicans believe in God. The only problem is there’s no such thing as Santa Claus.”

]]> By: turfmann http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149953 turfmann Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:30:28 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149953 "Patrick Says: March 14th, 2010 at 3:18 pm “the one between the USSR and Russia” Typo - You mean USA and USSR" Or would that be the USSA and the USSR? Things keep progressing as the are it just might be the case. One can hardly fault Neo for her confusion. /sarc “Patrick Says:
March 14th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
“the one between the USSR and Russia”

Typo – You mean USA and USSR”

Or would that be the USSA and the USSR?

Things keep progressing as the are it just might be the case. One can hardly fault Neo for her confusion.

/sarc

]]> By: Tatterdemalian http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149946 Tatterdemalian Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:18:31 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149946 I predict the Slaughter solution will be the last, best hope for peace, progress, and social justice in the US for the foreseeable future. Until the Republicans get control of the House and start using it against House Democrats, whereupon it will become a horrible fascist abomination that the right wing invented to enslave the entire free world with a chain made of money. In short, it's the new filibuster. I predict the Slaughter solution will be the last, best hope for peace, progress, and social justice in the US for the foreseeable future. Until the Republicans get control of the House and start using it against House Democrats, whereupon it will become a horrible fascist abomination that the right wing invented to enslave the entire free world with a chain made of money.

In short, it’s the new filibuster.

]]> By: Bob From Virginia http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149936 Bob From Virginia Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:13:05 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/03/14/health-care-reform-machinations-it-occurs-to-me/#comment-149936 Let's hope Obamacare is still a hot topic in November. Actually considering the cross between Marxist delusion and the Chicago way in Obamist thinking, even if the healthcare issue disappears there will be plenty of others to take its place. Our job will be to make the public, those doped up potheads who voted for the Messiah in the first place, realize these issues exist. Let’s hope Obamacare is still a hot topic in November. Actually considering the cross between Marxist delusion and the Chicago way in Obamist thinking, even if the healthcare issue disappears there will be plenty of others to take its place. Our job will be to make the public, those doped up potheads who voted for the Messiah in the first place, realize these issues exist.

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