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If HCR passes—the next step, states’ rights? — 24 Comments

  1. 37 states are in the process of trying to pass statutes or constitutional amendments to make the individual mandate illegal. Virgnia passed it’s law within the past two weeks.

    The AG for Virginia said on Greta last night that if it passes and Obama signs it into law on Sunday, he will be in court early next week challenging it. He seemed confident about his chances in court.

    I may be wrong, but I have to believe that with 37 states, or 74% of all states, opposing the mandate, that would ultimately influence the Supreme Court’s decision to grant certiorari and it’s disposition. But I’m not a lawyer, so I could be way off base.

  2. I remain convinced that any possible combination of Supreme Court justices would realize that simply invalidating any legislation not subject to a simple vote is no hardship on Congress’s prerogatives. Congress can simply do a yea or nay vote on the Senate bill. If the democrats cannot get what they want in the house then the bill is dead.

  3. Yes, the enormity of what the Left is doing–and it is a coup–is so bare-faced thsat no one can belive their eyes. But they should call it what it s: an attempt at a Marxist takeover of our government.

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  5. Ahem:

    You are absolutely correct. This quote from Michelle Malkin’s article on NRO today puts the bow on top of that sentiment:

    As Pelosi vowed last week, “Kick open that door, and there will be other legislation to follow. We’ll take the country in a new direction.”

  6. At least 2/3s of the states are beginning to fight. Rally round the flag boys, the game is just starting. Be glad we are going to send a clear message as to just what America is and chase the Obamans back to the gutter.

  7. Obama may yet regret his harassment of the Justices at the State of the Union.
    *********
    I hope the bill fails and made a couple of calls to Congress, but refuse to get carried away.

    NYT, 2004:

    WASHINGTON, July 6– An internal investigation by the Department of Health and Human Services confirms that the top Medicare official threatened to fire the program’s chief actuary if he told Congress that drug benefits would probably cost much more than the White House acknowledged.

    The Obamites are worse in degree but not in kind than the “compassionate conservatives” who are trying to retain control of the GOP. I have no interest in helping them back to power.

    Vote Republican. We Wreck the Country Slower.

  8. Just saw this quote from Obama in an article on HCR: “I’m not worried about the election,” he said. “I’m worried about doing what’s right.”

    Right. He wanted to take out kickbacks. Now their okay. He demanded an up or down vote until it became apparent it wouldn’t pass an up or down vote. Now whatever gets it through is acceptable. Process is unimportant.

    Winning=doing what’s right. Chicago math I guess.

  9. gs,

    I have no interest in helping “compassionate conservatives” back into power, either. What we true conservatives need to do is take over the Republican Party in the same way that the totalitarian Left took over the Democrat Party, starting all the way back in the ’60s. It won’t be quick and it won’t be easy, but we’ve already got some good men and true for a start: Paul Ryan, Tom Coburn, Mitch Daniels, Michelle Bachmann, Mike Pence, Eric Cantor, and some others. We MUST resist the temptation to get involved with any third-party nonsense. I learned that back in 1992 when I voted for Ross Perot, and I
    can tell you that I’ll never make THAT particular mistake again.

    Meanwhile, Vote Republican: We may wreck the country slower, but at least that’ll buy you some time.

  10. The irony of the white wine set’s push for socialism , high taxes, and deficit spending is the damage it will do to the economy, including a European level unemployment rate. Those who will suffer most are the young and minorities. Maybe the Dems can raise the minimum wage to $10.00 to put more of them in the street. It will show how much they care.

  11. @betsybounds
    What we true conservatives need to do is take over the Republican Party in the same way that the totalitarian Left took over the Democrat Party, starting all the way back in the ’60s.

    The 1960s also saw the rise of the conservative youth movement most notably in the College campus group Young Americans for Freedom. Throughout the seventies, the young conservatives marched through the Republican ranks pushing out the Rockefeller Republicans; this movement culminated in the election of Ronald Reagan. It also died – and I said so at the time – when Geo. H.W. Bush rose to the Vice-presidency.

  12. immigration is next…
    amnesty or path to citizenship
    pay a fine, do some community service, thank the dems

  13. njartist49,

    Good point. But as we’ve seen, these jobs don’t stay done. We have to get back to it!

  14. – … Brewer … kept repeating that what we are seeing now in Congress is something she’s never seen or even imagined happening in her lifetime. She seemed stunned, as though she could not believe her eyes and ears.

    To the non-distracted observer, it seems a forgone conclusion – based on the tone-deaf, arrogant abandon with which the socialists seem to be overplaying their hand – that Pelosi, Reid and Obama have no concern whatever about having to face the electorate ever again.

    I should hope that would stun anyone.

  15. I remember when the term “States Rights” implied keeping segregation legal in the southern states. Now that the Democrats have overplayed their race card, it’s a good time resurrect this historic American term.

    Anyone who has studied American history knows that States Rights is part of the U.S. Constitution (what it meant varied), but the concept was seemingly obliterated during the New Deal. It’s not dead though, because it’s clear that the U.S. Constitution REQUIRES the federal government to have limited powers.

    Now is a good time to fight to decentralize this outlandish federal regime. The federal government has become a tyranny, and we are now entering a new era, the era of States Rights.

    Or, we could call the era of Neo States Rights.

    In the year 2110, people will look back on our era as the time when the decentralization of the U.S. was rededicated. It will be similar to the way we look back on the growth of the Progressive era in the early 1900s.

    Most of us reading this blog would agree that a certain amount of federal oversight is useful, i.e. interstate road building, food and drug safety, air traffic safety, etc. However, most of us, I believe, do not need the federal government to tell us how much salt or sugar we should consume, how to recycle old newspapers, or what the public schools should teach.

    The Tenth Amendment will be very useful in the coming days, months, and years.

  16. betsybounds at March 19th, 2010 at 5:00 pm, I respect the names you cited with the exception of Bachmann’s.

    I’m a Big Tent person but wouldn’t stay in a tent where Bachmann takes up a lot of space.

    Not to start an argument but fyi from, I guess, a swing voter.

  17. Artfldgr, see we do agree on some things- see my comment on the post about Grahmnesty and Gitmo. And note the time it was posted relative to your comment above.

  18. gs Says:
    March 20th, 2010 at 12:18 am

    betsybounds at March 19th, 2010 at 5:00 pm, I respect the names you cited with the exception of Bachmann’s.

    I’m a Big Tent person but wouldn’t stay in a tent where Bachmann takes up a lot of space.

    Not to start an argument but fyi from, I guess, a swing voter.

    I think Michelle Bachmann is one of the brightest shining lights of the Republican Party. Really, I think she is one of the very best.

  19. Gs, state your case, she looks good from afar, do you have local info that can conflict?

  20. Bachmann is opposed to the liberal belief that murdering unborn babies is morally acceptable. That alone is enough. As to the tactics of the socialist democrats – one cannot be a little bit dictatorial just as one cannot be a little bit pregnant. It is all or nothing. If one part of the Constitution is violated wantonly, then the entire structure collapses, just like a broken plate glass window. If the “deem” ploy prevails, it is the end of the republic and, by this precedent, will allow future laws to be passed by fiat and decree. Look for Hugo Chavez’s and Che’s pictures on the currency in the near future.

  21. Darrell Says: March 20th, 2010 at 2:18 am. Gs, state your case, she looks good from afar, do you have local info that can conflict?

    Darrell, that’s a fair question but a challenging one because most of such material is packaged by highly partisan leftists who also are unacceptable to me.

    Try this video. Here is Bachmann, apparently, talking about campaigning on Sunday against gay marriage; here and here is Bachmann saying the healthcare vote will profane the Sabbath. The way Bachmann tilts her head back reminds me of Obama’s similar condescension.

    In this thread at Little Green Footballs, commenter Iceweasel gives other Bachmann links. As far as the overall religious right goes, I agree with the comments here and here
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    Don Janousek Says: March 20th, 2010 at 4:42 am. Bachmann is opposed to the liberal belief that murdering unborn babies is morally acceptable. That alone is enough…Look for Hugo Chavez’s and Che’s pictures on the currency in the near future.

    Taking your remark literally, it sounds you wouldn’t object to Hugo and Che on our currency if only they forbade abortion.

    I see no basis for dialogue.

  22. gs,
    you could not have twisted Don Janousek’s comments any further if you had tried. Clearly he was speaking against the socialist in this country and saying they are basically
    Chaveze and Che supporters.

    My guess is, since you aparently come over here from Charles Johnson’s swamp, you should have yourself checked out for that virus known as Bachmann Derangement Syndrome. Its only slighly less widespread than Palin Derangement Sydrome, but it seems to afflict its victims worse than the Palin version does.

  23. jon baker,

    Instruct me. What part of Janousek’s ‘That alone is enough.‘ am I misunderstanding?

    Are the Bachmann videos to which I linked fabrications?

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