March 19th, 2010

Working with Obama: Lindsey Graham on closing Guantanamo

I don’t know enough inside baseball to know exactly why Lindsey Graham is doing this. But I do know it’s the sort of thing that in the past earned him the rage of conservatives, and rightly so.

That Graham is willing at this point—even after the extreme hostility, demonizing, lack of cooperation, and utter disrespect displayed by Obama personally and this administration generally towards Republicans—to work with Obama on this matter is difficult to understand or justify. I’m with Andy McCarthy on the substantive problems with this agreement:

The good parts of the deal will be either things we’d have gotten anyway (like no civilian trial for KSM) or unenforceable (like promises that the Obama administration will be more open to using options other than the criminal justice system for top terrorists). The bad parts will be horrific, and no matter what Senator Graham says, he can’t do a thing about them: The place or places where the terrorists are held will become targets that we will have to spend tons of money to protect; the tons of money we have already spent to make Gitmo a first-rate, ideally secured facility, will be lost; and, most significantly, the physical presence in the U.S. of the detainees will mean they are unquestionably in the jurisdiction of the federal courts, where judges will be able to say the Constitution requires all sorts of remedies, including release.

And remember, all of this will be based on the fiction that Gitmo foments anti-U.S. terrorism — and to the extent the U.S. reputation in the world has been tarnished, much more of that has been done by the politicians who’ve attacked Gitmo than by the facility itself, which is a model.

And yet Graham forges on. His motivation is unknown to me, but here are some guesses:

(a) he really does believe that “bipartisanship” is some worthwhile goal in and of itself
(b) Obama has promised him something, and he’s naive enough to believe him
(c) he disagrees with McCarthy and believes that without an agreement Obama would be going the civilian justice route
(d) he likes the limelight and the power this gives him as the person to break an anti-cloture vote

The current situation in the post-Scott Brown election Senate is that, even though Brown gave the Republicans the magical 41st vote to stop cloture, it only works reliably when the Republican Party stands solidly and firmly and unanimously together (or if a Democrat or Democrats join them). Any Republican who goes against the group instantly becomes more spotlighted and more powerful than before—wooed and fawned over and catered to by the Democrats.

In the present case, Graham says he has two other Republicans ready to join him (wonder who they could be? My guess is a couple of women from Maine). So even if a few Democrats, or Joe Lieberman, vote with the Republicans against this, it’s a done deal, and Graham’s the “bipartisan” hero. However, I agree with McCarthy that Americans will be the losers. But hey, we’re getting used to that, aren’t we?

9 Responses to “Working with Obama: Lindsey Graham on closing Guantanamo”

  1. DBrooks Says:

    Don’t discount that ninny, George Voinovich. He’s a potential vote on any kind of nonsense.

  2. DBrooks Says:

    And, he(Voinovich might whimper about it both before and after his vote.

  3. DBrooks Says:

    (Voinovich) Sorry, at work.

  4. Tom Says:

    Pretty simple message, DB. Glad you were able to get it right. Better concentrate on your work.

  5. jon baker Says:

    Lindsey Grahmnesty is working on the next round of “immigration reform” with the democrats again also- I am not suprised-why are you? If “immigration reform” is like it was tried in 2007 it is amnesty not only for illegals but all their cousins- it was a throw the borders wide open attempt. It had as much to do with “reform” as “health care reform” does with “reform”. The devil was in the details last time- it was not the way the MSM portrayed it. Some of Michelle Malkins old blogs from around that time would show what details I am talking about…..

  6. jon baker Says:

    Sunday is the big amnesty push in DC- 100,000 protestors to be bussed in- these things -Health ‘reform” and immigration “reform” are not totally separate things. Do not be suprised if the Dems try to give themselves millions of new voters….

  7. njartist49 Says:

    Lindsey Graham is conservative the way Geo. W. Bush is conservative: to the right of the Obama left; but he is still a progressive; as as was Geo. W.

    Perhaps we should consider that Graham, as a dutiful progressive, is setting up the anti-thesis to Obama’s close Gitmo thesis and, at the same time, making keeping Gitmo a non-option.

  8. njartist49 Says:

    And don’t forget: while Obammy is doing all this Health Care mes, McCain is dutifully pursuing the other portion of the progressive goal of controlling health care. McCain, that son of Cain, is pushing the implementation of the Codex Alimentarius as it pertains to supplements.

  9. DefendUrRights Says:

    I know that Graham said that immig reform was dead; however, I don’t believe anything he says. He is two-faced and I believe if he was bribed well enough, he’d be off and running with it again.

    I read that obama wa putting diane feinstein and boxer on it…both may be leaving in november, so might take it up – to make their own “historical moment.”

    I don’t know where the House stands on it overall.

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