You are quite right. I’m gearing up. Well, I’ve been gearing up. What a sad day for our great and dear country. This is going to take a helluva portion of grit, my friends. These wizards are just getting started, and they’re not going to back off no matter how many of the American people are against them. I once thought there was some reason why this lot don’t care how unpopular they might be come November. I’m afraid for what they may have in mind about that.

I’m not wishing to be tacky, really I’m not. But I can’t help remembering: Huxley thought Obama had lost everything, including health care, months ago, and was doomed. Others of us were unpersuaded, expecting something like these strong-arm contortions at the last. I keep wondering what Huxley’s thinking now.

My husband just mused that maybe Huxley was a troll after all, and all along.

We must push for as many constitutional challenges as necessary to delay this poorly wriitten, misbegotten bill. We must also rise up against Cap and Trade, amnesty for illegal immigrants, card check, and any of the other progressive measures these dumbocrats try to push next. Fortunately, they will keep the pressure on and that will lead ever rising tempers, which can mean a tidal wave at the polls in November.

We must support with finances and deeds any candidates who stand for smaller government, less government spending, and pro-business tax policies. And, hopefully, enough new fiscal conservatives can be elected to Congress to repeal the HCR bill.

The war between those who want bigger and more intrusive government and those who want smaller government and more self reliance is joined. This is just the first big battle. Our aim must be to win the war. The first stepp is to win at the ballot box in November.

Theres a reason people in the south are more apt to open doors and wave at total strangers passing by than what you’ll see in the north. I believe you’ll find the answer in which one has the most exposure to the nanny state’s step child, the labor union.

My point Nonny was that regardless of Obama et al’s intent to disregard the Constitution, the SCOTUS will find that a Presidential executive order, clearly and illegally attempting to abrogate power exclusively given to the Legislative branch is unconstitutional and will be struck down.

SCOTUS has ruled on the other branches overstepping their Constitutional boundary many times before, it’s well within their purview.

Perhaps more significant is neo’s pointing out that Stupak has to know this and is disingenuously pretending otherwise, as political cover to change his vote to yes, if the party needs him too.

Which makes him an unprincipled hypocrite and unworthy of the office he holds. Of course, at least 75% of the members of Congress are unworthy of the office but tragically, quite reflective of the country.

And just to be clear, I don’t respect those people either. People have a right to be stupid, and some exercise that right. As long as the consequences redound to them, no problem here.

I think Zombie’s absolutely correct, as far as she goes. I’d go a bit further and emphasize that the next step, after individuals playing nanny, is the state bringing its power to bear to play nanny big time.

Thought experiment: suppose we had universal auto insurance. Every teen-aged boy in America would be thrilled. See ya on the airport road!

“If the President signs an executive order, that in effect says, “Well, the relevant federal agency can’t spend money on that”, then he’s the one deciding what the government will spend money on and he’s clearly abrogating powers to the Executive branch that Constitutionally, are clearly the prerogative of the Legislative branch.”
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And your point is? This is the Constitutional Law Professor President who decided the Government can take over Chrysler and GM (and also fire GM’s manager), and elevate their UNIONS over primary bondholders in the distribution of assets.

I’ll betcha $50-billion-bucks-that-I-don’t-have that this guy and his backers have thoroughly researched case law regarding Presidential decisions and actions, and that they have absolute confidence that SCOTUS has no grounds to reverse or set aside ANYTHING they’ve done. I’ll bet my life on it. (And by George, we are, aren’t we?)

We share costs and blame under the current system and even though we don’t really know what’s in the bill, it’s not going to change that.

And that’s the real reason so many people are opposed to the bill — we don’t know what’s in it and suspect that those voting on it don’t know either.

Zombie just wanted to dump a load on people he doesn’t like or respect.