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  1. Let him and his supporters crow–for now. What he and they do not realize is that this is waking up and galvanizing more and more Americans daily. As this goes on even those who supported him will rethink that–classic buyer’s remorse. Obama clearly never heard of Dale Carnegie, or at most he thought he was the clerk who rang up his free-range organic arugula in Hyde Park….

  2. UGH I could not stand the local newspapers, all they had for the week leading up to the visit and days after was barf-inducing fawning articles – GAG!!!! it was horrible.

    Although they did print one photo of some protesters with a denigrating caption. how can they even look themselves in the face after that pathetic attempt at “journalism”. and yes, that newspaper was one if the ones taken in by the “ellie light” scam artist.

    What is funny is that the local newspaper website allows people to post comments. As time has gone on they have gotten more and more anti-obama, which gives me hope. and the day after the healthcare vote there was a poll that asked “do you support the healthcare bill” and it was 68% against. I sent it to mike michaud, no response.

  3. My girlfriend and I had a discussion again.

    She said, “At least Obama is doing something. Republicans didn’t do anything about health care. Obama’s doing something.”

    She taunted. She got disrespectful. she called me radical and brainwashed. I called her on that. I said that kind of behavior and treatment of me is not acceptable in this relationship.

    I asked her if she knew anything about what is in the 2733 page bill. She didn’t.

    I personalized it with her boss who is doing things but she doesn’t like the policies and solutions her boss is implementing.

    I said, “I don’t care about identity politics. To me, it doesn’t matter if it’s Obama, republicans, or whoever. What I try to discuss with you is the policies and solutions.

    I told her that she is failing to recognize that this bill negatively affects her and our family in the future and for that matter all americans. This is a bill that is one of the worst ever passed.

    I listed investment income taxes (a new tax). I listed the bribery and back room deals it took to get this monstrosity passed and I asked why if it was so good did it take that kind of bribery and arm twisting? I listed the 16,800 new IRS employees to impose the new taxes (during a recession) that this bill imposed.

    I listed the companies that have to report costs and revenue and whatnot to the SEC (Securities and Exchange commission) that are reporting new and LARGE expense obligations due to the HCR bill.

    And Congress is asking these companies to explain themselves – yet they are required to report to the SEC.

    During a recession – this bill raises costs for most businesses and families and will only cause more misery, many doctors have said they will quit their practice – causing rationing and costs to rise.

    I talked about 25 things in the bill asking each time if she knew that was in the bill.

    I asked her again if she would be glad to know that her boss Maria is at least doing something yet imposing negative consequences on her, her unit and her department.

    And is the blind follower radical and brainwashed or is the informed person on the policies and solutions brainwashed?

    And if her boss was being sued by 25 states because of her policy – just like the HCR bill is being litigated – wouldn’t someone start to wonder if this bill truly is the best way of reforming health care.

    And dear liberals,

    The poor had access to Medicaid, the elderly had access to Medicare and the children 200% above the poverty line had access to SCHIP.

    25 states had already made laws concerning pre-existing conditions – California wasn’t one of those states (non-Republican state).

    What was this monstrosity of a 2733 page bill so important for? Was it illegal immigrants? Was it to buy more voters?

  4. This kind of irresponsible governing and legislating needs to be rewarded with truth and then consequences.

    The only thing bi-partisan about this HealthCareReform bill was the no votes.

  5. Let’s not forget that Obama, the greatest orator ever to read a teleprompter, does not speak unless it is in front of handpicked crowds, crowds carefully screened for smiling, true believers. No dissent is tolerated when The One is present.

    Notice too that often, appropriate costumes are provided, such as white coats for visiting physicians. Hmm. Why yes, I recall seeing my doctor in his white coat at the local supermarket. Why wouldn’t he, or any other physician, wear it to the theater, out to dinner, or even to the White House?

    Notice too that those in view of the adoring camera, those standing directly behind Obama, are always a careful, and visually obvious, mix of gender and race, and all insipidly smiling and nodding their heads.

    The only exception is our military, such as those in Afghanistan, who are obliged to be polite. Even so, I didn’t see many smiling faces, and not a nodding head in sight when he spoke there. How could this be?

  6. Baklava: so what did you girlfriend respond?

    The idea that doing something is always better than doing nothing boggles my mind.

    Another good point to make is that government, like doctors, would do well to follow the adage: “first, do no harm.”

  7. Yep. Do no harm. But you have to remember the mindset of the liberal – they can’t possibly believe that Obama would do harm – so then it gets into identity politics.

    She responded actually with amazement about all of the things in the bill.

    This has happened before. She admits that I know much more on the topic with regards to politics. I turn that back around on her saying, “I don’t even like politics. I care about what the legislation says and the solutions and discussion of the ideas are what is exciting to me.

    So then… she tells me something new.

    She said, “I trust you and I defer to you on the direction of our family and what we should do.”

    I thanked her and said, “Have you ever known me to do anything radical?”

    This was a surreal discussion having just heard an hour previously that she thought I was brainwashed and radical.

    But I thought to myself that maybe after hearing the things in the bills she understands my point of view.

    I don’t know.

    I’ve had hope before.

    Then she does this stunt.

    She repeated that about 3 times. Each time I said there is nothing to do except for move forward in a positive direction. Yes, our family will pay more because we earn more. Yes, our children will be negatively impacted in the job market (i pointed out that the unemployment rate for young americans is in the 25% – 35% range depending on where you are and who you are.

    But you really can’t do anything except for spend less as a family, earn more and plan for those rainy days with rainy day funds.

  8. Baklava: well, maybe it will be two steps forward one and a half steps back in terms of you and your girlfriend. Change can be slow. It’s the direction that counts.

    But a promise to always defer to you is probably unlikely to be kept 🙂

  9. The comments were scripted, Neo. He used the exact same words in his previous town hall.

    The WashPost had a funny story on how he took 17 minutes to answer a question in Maine and wandered all over the place. It’s on You Tube but it was too painful to listen to.

    Why does he do it? Does he just like the sound of his own voice, is he filibusting, or is he’s an idiot?

  10. Granny Jan: that’s much worse, then. If it was ad-lib, I’d cut him a little more slack on his logical inconsistency.

  11. Granny Jan: why does he do it? My theories:

    (a) he adores the sound of his own voice

    (b) he gets feedback that others adore the sound of his own voice

    (c) he has received so much praise and adulation for so little, and has been challenged almost never, that he has become unused to having to back up his arguments or rhetoric. He has learned in the past that, in the political arena, his word quantity can substitute quite adequately (with his backers, and with the MSM) for thought quality.

  12. Another excellent post, neo. In the “sizzle and steak” department, the Won’s at best the A-1 sauce. And no one outside the blogosphere ever calls him on his logic fails.

    And as far as Spiro goes: his “nattering nabobs of negativity” has been my favorite alliteration since I first heard it (although at the time, I’m sorry to say, I believe he was talking about me.) At least he knew how to pronounce “corps”

    And Baklava: argh! Your GIRL FRIEND! Yikes. Good luck with that relationship. I just had an acquaintnce tell me how “passionate” she was about her liberal politics and in nearly the same breath admit she didn’t really understand how the deficit worked or how HCR could effect it. You don’t have liberal politics hon, you’ve got liberal feelings. “Stupid but feeling really good about myself” award of the week. Please save your passion for protecting Algore from hurting himself with sharp objets.

    Thanks. I feel better now. Probably ate too many chocolate eggs.

  13. Baklava – how tough. Before I met my fiance, I decided it was time to get serious about who I would get involved with – no more random relationships. My two ‘must haves’: conservative, Catholic.

    I just cannot imagine being with someone liberal in these trying times. There’s no places in our lives that are untouched by politics and Washington, it seems.

  14. The interesting thing for those who know me is that I have been persuasive.

    My best friend is black and he did not vote for Obama. He converted to conservatism and told me I was responsible back in 1999.

    Neo has talked about her friends and I relate to her. There are people all around us who either do not pay attention or just watch abccbsnbccnn and can’t acknowledge that there might be other points of view on the current events of the day.

    I do believe I’m making progress.

    I appeal to her on the basis that we are the most generous nation in the world and personal responsibility comes from each of us.

    In a free market system it is up to each and every one of us to make good decisions.

    You want to buy a home? Put 20% down. Finance the rest with a conventional 30 year or 15 year fixed. And do not buy more than you can afford.

    She has lived this. She had to foreclose on her home and have her car repo’d. She understands how her decisions caused this. She’s been employed with a great paycheck for the state of CA for 25 years !!!

    Who came in and bought a home and rented to her? Who did the same with her car? And who helped her get her son’s braces? Me.

    I believe she is connecting the dots of personal responsibility and who we should be electing in government to implement policies that reward good choices instead of poor choices.

    We here all know this! We eat breathe and sleep this stuff. There are so many that when they turn on the tube turn on Entertainment tonight also – like my girlfriend. It’s a constant barrage of hate bush and republicans on those shows.

    This is why i say – I don’t do identity politics. I talk about the issues and solutions.

    And for any liberal coming to this blog…. Can you tell me if health care is a basic human right – why is Obama making everyone pay for it and implementing 16,800 more IRS employees (a 17% increase in their workforce)????

  15. The notion of basic human right assumes it is something government is not allowed to deny anybody. My right to get married does not mean that government is obliged to provide me with a spouse.

  16. I picked a couple of the best clips from the 17 minutes along with some cute Barry pictures and audio. It’s called Obama Speaks Libberish_ Liberal Gibberish.(You Tube)

    I got the word libberish from a comment at Breitbart. Click my name to see it.

    Remember when Obama told Harry Reid, Harry, I have a gift. Obama actually thinks that what he has to say is brilliant. Afterall, it’s what he has been told his whole life. So 17 minutes of his talking is just his way of spreading the gift.

  17. Sergey: in this country, for the most part, conservatives believe in preserving basic rights by government getting its hands off our lives (except for essential services to protect such as military, or basic things such as roads). In this country for the most part, leftists and liberals believe in extending rights past those basic ones and guaranteeing them through heavy government intervention, and that it be done in such a way that things are more “equal.” The two points of view are basically incompatible.

  18. gleefully mocking perhaps, and, to use O’s Negro Dialect he employs when doing his Aren’t you glad to be with us because what would it say about you to be with them? bit, ‘n’ when they realize jes what they signed up for they’ll be singin’ another song entirely. By Crosby, Stills, & Nash: Helplessly Hoping.

  19. I tried explaining some of the costs of Obamacare to the libs here at the office and the leader of the pack told me to stop talking about it. Basically she couldn’t bear having her opinions challenged but used the excuse that such a discussion might draw too much attention from the manager. A neat dodge considering they talk loud and constantly with each other. When I, the token conservative speaks, it’s ‘too loud’ or ‘too disruptive’. I’ve pointed out the double standard and at least one other noticed it herself but they still remain closed to the danger of this fiscal suicide bomb and apparently wish to remain ignorant.

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