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  1. Neo:

    I think you meant to write that he was released in August of 2009. A travesty in any case. F

  2. Look, if you want to murder with impunity and enjoy being yourself in a society that oppresses such behavior, then join the left…

    Al Megrahi get off
    Roman Polanski army of defenders
    Almadinijad leads Iran
    Ayers, gets 100 mill grants and a teaching fellowship
    Panthers get voter tampering thrown out
    Stalin was never brought to trial
    Mao, was never brought to trial
    Pol Pot, Castro, and many others, never to trial
    Heidegger, rehabilitated after time
    Pensellin was released after many feminist bombings [fringe to Ulrike Meinhof, Andreas Baader who now have a hero film for them]
    che was punished, but now has hero status and hagiography
    Strobl was also released
    Kim Jong Il and family still enjoys life
    William Hamilton Martin / Bernon F. Mitchell avoided prosecution [The New York Times described them as “long-time bachelor friends” and reported they smiled at each other only when they described the social advantages they anticipated in the Soviet Union, where, their prepared statement said, “The talents of women are encouraged and utilized to a much greater extent in the Soviet Union than in the United States. We feel that this enriches Soviet society and makes Soviet women more desirable as mates.”]

    realize that some of these people had some very heinious tastes on order of feudal lords with mental deseases…

  3. here is what happened to martin…

    too bad ayers didnt get to complete his move to another state…

    According to a later government report, Martin who was fluent in Russian, studied at Leningrad University (now Saint Petersburg State University), and used the name Vladimir Sokolodsky. He married a Soviet citizen whom he divorced in 1963. He later told a Russian newspaper that his defection had been “foolhardy.” He also expressed disappointment that the Russians did not trust him with important work. He occasionally sought the help of American visitors in arranging for repatriation, including Donald Duffy, vice president of the Kaiser Foundation, and bandleader Benny Goodman. On another occasion he told an American that before defecting he had believed the vision of Russia presented by propaganda publications like USSR and Soviet Life. By 1975, a source told the U.S. government Martin was “totally on the skids.” In 1979 he inquired at the American consulate about repatriation. As a result his case was examined and he was stripped of his American citizenship. He was next denied permission to immigrate to America and then denied a tourist visa. Martin eventually left the Soviet Union and died of cancer in Mexico on January 17, 1987 at Tijuana’s Hospital Del Mar. He was buried in the U.S.[1][20]

    Less is known of Mitchell. Having renounced his American citizenship, he remained in the Soviet Union for the rest of his life. He died in St. Petersburg on November 12, 2001.

  4. Neo, it was a miracle! The air of motherland has revived him! It was a spiritual transformation – the combined aura of friends and family wiped out cancer cells in his prostate!

    Seriously, though – what medical records he prohibited to release? Scottish or Libyan? If the latter – is not surprising and I don’t expect anyone outside of Libya to have control over that – but it’d be interesting, for real doctors, to examine legitimacy of Scottish medical file.

  5. Funny you mention him. I thought about him while making my Pan Am comment in the other thread, and wondered why we hadn’t heard about his demise – all the while suspecting the answer.

  6. the reason he is alive is that the prognosis in the past was done by socialized NICE.

    and given how they ration care, medicine, and stuff, he probably wouldn’t have survived. (good chance of dying of malnutrition or starvation! i can link to articles for the UK)

    but just as leaving russia today (life expectancy 58) and arriving in the US (life expectancy over 75), can change outcomes.

    leaving socialized medicine and going to another place where you get better medicine (as a hero of that state), your probably not going to have the same prognosis, since such is made in light of potential treatments.

  7. Oil for terrorists.

    That is why Al Megrahi was released. It’s my understanding that Libya and Britain had large contracts for oil up for renewal. Britain was informed that if they wanted those contracts renewed, they needed to ‘sweeten the pot’…

    Which proves that ideology is still important to Khadafi.

    That in turn indicates that Khadafi may be amenable to joining an Iranian led alliance, once Iran has the bomb.

  8. Al Megrahi was released because his then upcoming appeal would have shown how appallingly he had been fitted up in the first trial.

  9. Yep. Clearly a (stinky) quid pro quo.

    Should’ve employed one of the current members of the Pierrepoint family to deal with this problem.

  10. I am glad that Mr Megrahi is still alive, for he did not do Lockerbie. It was carried out as a joint operation between Iran and the US, through their notorious agencies the Pasdaran and the CIA respectively, to ensure that the desired Iranian revenge for the downing of IR-655 did not foul up HW Bush’s electoral chances in the 1988 general election.

    From what Mr Seif El Islam is saying Mr Megrahi is near death, but he will have had nearly a year in the bosom of his family as the saying goes.

    The decision of the CIA to frame him and their progressive campaign to wear down and undermine the legal, political, judicial, police and forensic processes of a friendly country, Scotland, in favour of narrow national political goals, is not one that can easily be forgiven or forgotten. The US political system owes the Scots in spades. Many other government departments took part in this absurd farce the NTSB, the DoJ, the FBI and the SD, which lost virtually no employees in the bombing, when fully one third to one half of the passengers should have been State Department officials or diplomats. And now tell me that the US had no prior warning of the destruction?

    Pull the other one. It’s got bells on.

  11. very interesting things are heating up if people are paying attention to strategic and tactical ends. As i mentioned in the past, one can facilitate things by keeping forces busy, and one does that by having lots of stuff happen all over at once.

    so if anyone isnt paying attention do note that north and south korea are the closest to war in my lifetime.

    Chavez has managed to bankrupt and mismanage his country while wasting (?) billions on new Russian military equipment, and importing Cuban military people. note that if one looks at his purchases, one can kind of guess what kind of fight he is expecting.

    the Ukraine is now on the platter given recent changes. there are clues as to what has happened and may be happening.

    We are about to have our biggest push in Afghanistan…

    and china is now flexing its military muscle. not to mention violating treaties by putting military equipment into civilian planes it purchased (making for a new AWACS type system).

    Iran will set off a nuclear bomb test soon to flex its point…..

    as i said, they are going to turn on all the faucets and burners at once. something that a more experienced president would not have let happen in the first place. ie. the man with one bullet willing to use it can hold many men at bay as long as none of them wants to be first. a man who has a whole magazine and spares, and is not wiling to shoot, will be overrun by everyone trying him at once.

    and now odd articles are appearing as to our commander and chiefs emotional state given how he is snapping at everyone, his popularity is almost the worst in history, he may have an impeachable offense on the table, and we can list out many more.

    Megrahi and that small quid pro quo chess game that he was about is all part of the larger chess game that we abdicated playing as the game went on.

    lori berenson, and the leader of Mexico have a lot in common if you think of how they reflect the disparity between how America treats the same things that other countries find themselves having to respond to.

    Lori represents how our country has normalized communist leftist liberal methods of revolution, and how when she went to another country, it was taken as much more serious as they value what we are throwing away. for her 15 years serious, and now another 5 where she better hope that nothing crosses her path, or that she isn’t suddenly a hero figure (which is why they wont let her leave yet).

    mexico is also the same out of line measure where we are bad for not having open borders. forgetting that a country and things are defined by the perimeters and borders that separate them from other things.

    a country with no borders is not a country.

    its a land free for all to grab and hang on to, as if it was never owned by anyone.

    the point is that his laws are much more restrictive than ours, yet he talks to us as if any impediment is a crime against humanity (ignoring the individual).

    when you are leading i plead for my right and special things, because that is your way

    but when we lead, we will take away all rights and special things because that is our way

    Obama is being given too much to handle and his first year was their determining whether he would pull the trigger or be passive.

    and as i pointed to a friend recently, the modern idea of pacifism (he follows) is bs… it amoutns to passivism, not pacifism. shaolin monks were big pacifists, but they invented kung fu… because REAL pacifism lowers the amount of conflict even if it has to have a conflict to do it. passivism is more a masquerade shadow of the other in which one lays down and prays that they have mercy.

    and dont forget the kind of war that is going on in thailand. our news is not reporting that the red shirts are communists and narchists and that this amounts to one more place where the majority of unrest and violence is left, communist, sociliast, anarchist, and revoluitionary.

    [yet the right is the danger as leftists compare bank leaders to Eichmann not realizing that Eichmann was not a capitalist, but a socialist like them who wanted the same control of the banks that they are demanding by violent action]

    Gonna be a hot time in the igloo tonight!

  12. Charles,
    everyone here will tell you that i follow such things, and i do separate wheat from chaff, and your blowing chaff out your a**.

    the current political grouping in washington is doing much more than bush ever did, and most of what you and others think he did, is made up chaff from your butts like what you just posted.

    the problem is that everything has to fit, and your stuff does not fit anything really strategic or tactical towards the end you claim it was all for!!!

    Iran has been in Russia’s hip pocket for a long long time, including having weapons, soldiers, doctors, tactical advice, and constant back and forth coordination visits with other Russia backed countries.

    you can tell its butt chaff because he doesn’t know which agencies do what and where. the points made reflect a hollywierd concept.

    Jafari is running a military which is what the Pasdaran basically is.

    i would like him to explain why Jafari would be in control of such things and not MISIRI?
    (aka VEVAK, VAJA, or MOIS)
    [this replaced the sha’s SAVAK)

    basically he is claiming that the US and Iran linked up and that they completely bypassed the Iranian ministry of intelligence… Given that almadinijad sweeps through and restocked it with loyalists and family, would lend less to bypassing it. .

    if what our unthinking parrot of others ideas says is true, then tactically it was a brain fart…

    but he is agitprop pretending that he is alerting you to agitprop (and if you fall for it, you think he isnt that).

    bush had 8 years… he didnt seize anything, or did nationalizations.

    i should point out that those that did nationalize, have always been socialists and that nazi was slang for nationalizers… and anyone want to tell him or give him the list of things nationalized so far by the current regime while he is pushing a dead horse?

    i mean really… might as well start resurecting old slogans from the past.

    tippy canoe and tyler too!!!

    or blame everything on echos of FDR and not worry about it.

  13. Ah, just break out the Hellfire and remind ’em that no one lives forever.

  14. on another note:

    Stalin ‘blocked two Soviet plans to kill Hitler overs fears Western powers would make peace with the Nazis’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1281563/Stalin-blocked-attempts-assassinate-Hitler-overs-fears-West-make-peace-Nazis-plans-carried-out.html

    the more you read, the more you learn that they teamed up and as there is no honor among thieves and betrayal being an ideological key point of action, ended up at each other.

    The Communist boss is said to have feared that Hitler’s replacement as Nazi leader would make peace with the Western Allies.

    Stalin hoped that by perusing the war until the bitter end he would be able to destroy Germany as a future threat and also gain more influence in Eastern Europe.

    and we worry about our politicians using things on teh world stage for gain? duh… they go so far as to let the whole burn down and millions die just to gain an edge (america being the first country NOT to do that AND win playing that way (for a while at least))

    An estimated 27million Soviet citizens died in the 1941-1945 war with Nazi Germany.

    General Kulikov was Russia’s Interior Minister from 1995 to 1998 under President Boris Yeltsin.

    He said that the Club of Military Leaders, which he heads, would include details of the assassination attempts in a forthcoming book on World War II.

  15. on another note, the kitchen just got REAL HOT…

    [just think how a huge war would help the dems]

    http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/politics/2010/05/26/0511000000AKR20100526115400014.HTML

    and for those that cant read korean you can try to hit the english button on top… basically the north is moving rocket launchers and mortars to the border and is amassing troops.

    when capitalist countries are decapitlized, they dont have money to wage war, they cant borrow it, and so they cant fight it.

    manufacturing wise, training wise, population wise (too many too fat. too many with mental problems, etc) we cant fight, and so on.

    technically i see them making a grab for it…

    they realized that when we announced our afghanistan push, we wont be able to respond to them. (a good idea is not to publish your war strategy future moves in the newspaper as poltiical fodder).

    between afghanistan, china, n korea, pakistan, iran, venezuela, mexico, cambodia and thai, and a few others…

    ya think it will not heat up? every one of them is banking on a passivist response (and yes i spell it that way for a reason. real pacifists are not that way)

    a velvet glove with no iron fist inside is about as threatening as kittens

  16. I came across a book describing famous British murder trials for the century ending in 1970. The striking thing was the swiftness of British justice of the time.

    A few examples:

    Thomas Neill Cream arrested on 3 June, trial began 17 October, hanged 15 November – all in 1892.

    Harvey Hawley Crippen arrested 31 July, tried 18 October (following a three week delay in extraditing him from Quebec, and a transatlantic voyage back to England), convicted after a five day trial (27 minute jury deliberation), appeal heard and dismissed on 5 November (one day!), hanged 23 November — all in 1909.

    John Haigh tried 18 July (trial ending the next day), convicted after a 17 minute deliberation, hanged 10 August — all in 1949.

    A prospective murdered knew that, if caught and convicted, his life would be forfeit within a few months – tops.

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