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  1. This week I turned on my local NPR station for the first time after a self-imposed boycott of several years. I was astounded at the change. If they portray themselves as neutral just-the-facts-ma’m journalists, they should be ashamed of themselves. And they certainly should be ashamed of their unjust and underhanded treatment of Mr. Williams.

  2. Now that NPR has made it clear that it will terminate employees who insult people’s religions, I am sure that it will fire Garrison Keillor any minute now (a bit belatedly) for his 2004 “joke” calling for a Constitutional amendment depriving born-again Christians of the right to vote.

  3. How about Nina Totenberg? She’s insulted the religions of every believing person on earth!

  4. Juan statement said 2 things:
    1) He was doing what the Department of Homeland Security recommended following 9/11 – to be aware of your surroundings.
    2) Employing the common sense approach to staying secure.

    However,

    He didn’t purposefully do those things. He simply did those things like most americans do naturally out of self-preseration insticts.

    Sometimes when listening to liberals I think they don’t have the self-preservation chromosome or dna or whatever.

    In fact – I think they are the virus/cancer etc that has infected the host and will kill the host if they can’t come to terms with common sense…

    Many who don’t have an ‘interest’ in politics simply don’t know what the hell is going on – and just aren’t interested beyond a few issues like:
    1) The mosque
    2) The cambridge police incident
    3) BP oil spill
    etc.

    When things like that happen people pay attention more. It’s not political per se – it’s just an event that captures their attention.

    I believe the firing of Juan Williams is one of those times – that illuminate the lack of sense that NPR has to offer.

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  6. PC, like more literal communist revolutions of the past, is starting to eat its own- those deemed not loyal enough, or who question certain aspects of the cause.

    Who will be sacrificed on their alter first? The gays or the Muslims. If the stories coming out of Europe are any indication, Muslims are higher on the pc protection scale than gays. The European gays are already being sacrificed. The muslims outnumber the gays, and are probably better suited psychologically for disolving nations, with their questionable loyalties to western governments, in the push for world government.

  7. Simply more proof that NPR is an arm of the Democrat Party.

    Of course we can’t neglect to remark on the fact that NPR, like Public TV, does a lot of begging for money. I suspect that one or more of their big donors made a call demanding the scalp of the “Uncle Tom.” Just sayin’.

  8. “I mean, look, Bill, I’m not a bigot.” and then he makes a bigotted comment. What would have shown some self awareness is, “I mean, look, Bill, I AM a bigot, I struggle with my biggotry all the time when I see Muslims in the airport.” But Juan Williams does not show such awareness, and his comment apologizes for all sorts of biggotry. These days many white Tea Partiers raise signs in protest with racial stereotypes, like Obama eating watermelon etc. and then say, “Hey look I am not a bigot or racist.” If Juan Williams wants to be a leader in the conversation and wants an open debate on race and biggotry, I would strongly encourage him to gain a bit of self awareness and to speak from that place. If he does he would truely be a leader, but as it is now he meerly unconciously buys into a harmful rhetoric which serves to divide, conjur hate and fear, and makes a fool of himself.

  9. Cleanup on Aisle Matthew! (and learn to spell, honey).

    They’re getting more and more Soviet all the time, aren’t they? I heard one of the NPR pooh-bahs today said Williams needs to see a psychiatrist to work out his thoughtcrime “problem”: the Stalinists always call you crazy, and when they have the power to do so, they’ll commit political prisoners to “insane asylums” for thought-adjustment.

    Marx forbid that we should call our enemies by their name.

  10. This is the second time I’ve seen the liberal yo-yos take off on Juan Williams when he has “overstepped” his bounds and spoken a truth that was against the “party line”.

    I have said more than once in the past that a government run co-opted media is but one step towards the Soviet style dictatorship that we witnessed with the old USSR. This is beyond Big Brother. This is not only the squashing of Free Speech, but is in fact taking away one of our most sacred rights. And he wasn’t even on an NPR show!

    This Political Correctness, which is nothing more than a Gestapo style propaganda issue has to stop!
    I for one do not agree with some of Mr. Williams stands. however, he has never been afraid to call it as he sees it and in this case he was correct! To be fired for relating the truth is beyond everything we hold sacred in this country.

    Kudos to Mr. Williams for daring to stand up to the kind of censorship that is so warmly welcome by leftist Soviet and NAZI style governments!

  11. Neo,

    It certainly is not about a discussion of the issues. That is not the NPR thing.

    I was watching Tom Gjelton (also of NPR) report on the Ft. Hood Shooting on Gwen Ifill’s “Washington Week in Review”. Another panelist asked him about the (even then) obvious motive for the shooting, asking if the shooter went Muslim or went Postal. Gjelton got all sanctimonious and said that was not for us to decide, that was for the jury.

    Really? I’m a lawyer, though not a criminal lawyer, and I recall that all a criminal jury decides is intent to do the act, and if the act was done by the defendant. In fact, evidence of motive might even be suppressed as too prejudicial.

    This is really a pathetic state of affairs, when the government sponsored media blatantly discourages members of the public to think for themselves.

    Oh, and how’s that trial coming along anyway? I’ve been waiting for a long time now.

  12. Over the past year or so I have become a fairly regular viewer of Fox programmes such as O’Reilly, Hannity, and Brett Beier, on which Williams regularly appears. I had my doubts about him at first, as I find a lot of the leftist commentators too flaky (eg Alan Coombs, who adds very little to anything).

    Williams is however a reasoned and sensible commentator. I often didn’t agree with him, but he usually had an arguable point of view. He is, too a very large degree, fair, balanced, sensible and worth listening to.

    Quite a few months ago, some leftist group or commentateor (I forget the details) accused Juan Williams of being an Uncle Tom. I recall seeing Williams discussing it, perhaps with O’Reilly, in a very dignified manner, and my opinion of him increased considerably. But from that time on, I thought he changed a bit, and moved his commentary further right. He had crossed the leftist brothers and sisters, been on the receiving end of totally unnecessary ugliness, and I think started to see things a little more clearly.

    This episode may well complete that transition.

    The left is becoming more extreme, and it has no place for balanced thinking. Its values are now about winning; not winning anything in particular, just winning, and not much else. Older-time leftists like Williams, who did get involved in meaningful and useful social struggles, are increasingly irrelevant to the left: its not about values any more.

    Here’s the bottom line: a black man in America gets fired by the left for expressing his own, moderate, thoughts. The conservative side might argue with him, but they’ll give him a voice and hear him out. The left side insists he tows the line and won’t tolerate dissent so tries to shut him down.

    Firing Williams was a big mistake as it highlights just how corrupted and intolerant the left is. The vicious peer group pressure the left applies to African-Americans to stay within prescribed bounds of behaviour is akin to a type of ownership. Today, the political left are the oppressors of African-Americans, and Juan Williams has just been liberated. He’s now like Neo, and while the path ahead might be rocky, he’s escaped the nightmare.

    Fortunately, he has the courage and integrity to stand up for himself (and I imagine he will find FOX very supportive) and show African Americans just how the political left keeps them oppressed.

    Juan, its time to take the Red pill.

  13. Great comment, Rathyen.

    I haven’t listened to NPR in years, and I watch very little TV. I don’t even watch Fox very much. But I echo other commenters here: the times I’ve seen and heard Williams, he’s sounded like a pretty intelligent and fair-minded liberal, not a leftist ideologue. This just might turn out to be a big wakeup call and learning experience for him. At some point he’s bound to notice that he’s getting lots of understanding, sympathy, and support from conservatives, Tea Partiers, and other assorted right-wingers.

  14. Mr. Frank: That would be an insult to Pravada. It is now much more objective in its reporting than the members of the Supreme Soviet at National Pinko Radio.

    All Juan Williams did was give expression to a personal feeling he has had. Nothing more. However, in this era of thought crimes, that is enough to convict. In order to be doubleplusgood, we must all love Big Brother, not only with our actions and words, but with our feelings, emotions and thoughts, too.

  15. Once again, y’all need to read Systems of Survival by the late Jane Jacobs. “Dissent for the sake of the task” is a “Commercial Syndrome” value, while shouting down or silencing an opposing point of view is a Guardian practice.

    Systems presents a theory, and, just in case there are some who still confuse theory with hypothesis, a theory is a mental construct that organizes observations that are, otherwise, apparently unrelated. This thread, many others, and many Neo essays make those observations.

    The US was founded as a Republic in which Commercial (Bourgeois) values would dominate. Just read it, then let’s talk.

  16. But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous.

    I’m not a psychologist. But, surely, I cannot be the only one who thinks NPR had a hair trigger about this because Williams actually said out loud what the rest of them at NPR think but dare not say.

  17. A few years ago several members of my family caught a plane to a family event. There were two adult males in our group, one of whom is about 6′ 4″ and maybe 250 when he’s dieting. There was a gentleman on the plane clearly Muslim and radiating a sort of sour negativity. Our group wasn’t able to sit together, but the 2 adult males signaled each other. They were keeping an eye on this guy and did so throughout the flight. This is called common sense where I come from.

    The last writer had it correct, Juan Williams said what most normal people think and was punished for it.

    When thinking is outlawed, only outlaws will have thoughts.

  18. What was that about a neo-con is a liberal who’s been mugged by reality?

    I’ve always wanted to hold out some possibility for NPR since one station in upstate NY adheres to a classical music format–the only one in the area. If it wasn’t for them, the area would be utterly bereft of a musical form and cultural heritage that enlightens and liberates. On the other hand, the more popular NPR station in my area has an ultra-left leaning talk format. That station commits all the sins described on this thread…and more. It would be funny to listen if it weren’t so disgraceful.

  19. If I remember correctly, Juan Williams’ son is a Republican politician. I believe he ran for office in the past. Not sure if he was elected.

  20. but this isnt totalirianism… right?

    its just that you havent figured out what the victim feels or experiences as it happens.

    you only know what it looks like from the outside after there is no more question of the condition

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