January 31st, 2011

The revolutionary usurpers

Historian Andrew Roberts seems to be channeling neo-neocon.

Not really. But this article of his on Egypt and revolutions sounds a number of themes I’ve been writing about in the last couple of days.

15 Responses to “The revolutionary usurpers”

  1. Parker Says:

    Good article. Revolutions tend to become runaway trains and the people who eventually assume control of the throttle more often than not become more repressive than the power elites that were booted out the door. Meet the new boss worse than the old boss (don’t get fooled again).

    Very few revolutions produce a greater good. We live in a country where the revolution created a very greater good. Viva America!

  2. Tom Says:

    The moral: “History shows how small, extremist, determined, and, above all, well-organized revolutionary cadres tend to succeed out of all proportion to their numbers against amorphous, well-meaning, middle-class liberals.”

    That’s the Dems, folks. Tea Parties above all must come to understand this ASAP.

  3. Parker Says:

    Tom,

    According to Lenin, the people in America and the West in general that today we label dems/liberals were considered “useful idiots” by Lenin.

  4. expat Says:

    This is a total OT, but I have to pass it along since it comes from my hometown paper. When I was 16 and 17 (60s), I was volunteering at the local VA hospital and met patients who were WWI nurses. They told me about their wartime experiences. The nurses were seniors at the time, and made me realize how young they were when they served.

    http://www.herald-mail.com/news/hm-buckles-to-celebrate-110th-birthday-on-tuesday-20110131,0,2008458.story

    It’s not a bad time to think of Mr. Buckles and all those others who have safeguarded our country and still do.

  5. Tom Says:

    Sorry; I meant the Dem leadership. Of course the rest, those so very quick to always grant their leadership the benefit of the doubt, are the useful idiots.

  6. Terrye Cravens Says:

    I understand people’s concerns, but the truth is Mubarak out stayed his welcome. He is a thug and people have had enough. It is not surprising that people have had enough. Maybe some of the people who are concerned about what comes next, should have thought about all this before.

    I think that the internet has as much to do with this uprising as the Muslim Brotherhood, and while we can not be sure of what comes next it is obvious that backing a guy like Mubarak is not going to work in the future.

  7. Terrye Cravens Says:

    Tom:

    There are a lot of people in the US that are afraid of the Tea Party itself for the same reasons. I think those fears are based in ignorance rather than reality, but not everyone feels that way.

  8. Bob from Virginia Says:

    Read what Prof. Barry Rubin wrote at Pajamas Media today. Virtually the same thing except with greater hopelessness.

    Did anyone at this blog not foresee disaster if Obama was elected? I thought it curious that the MSM touted Dear Leader’s earliest disgraces in foreign policy as successes. I wonder how they will spin this?

  9. Artfldgr Says:

    all three states now in play (another cabinet sacked) are all states with peace treaties with Israel.

    Israel pundits are writing how Obama could betray them, and now others are realizing that with a regime change comes an end to those peace treaties.

    Muslim Brotherhood: ‘Prepare Egyptians for war with Israel’

    A leading member of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt told the Arabic-language Iranian news network Al-Alam on Monday that he would like to see the Egyptian people prepare for war against Israel, according to the Hebrew-language business newspaper Calcalist.

    Muhammad Ghannem reportedly told Al- Alam that the Suez Canal should be closed immediately, and that the flow of gas from Egypt to Israel should cease “in order to bring about the downfall of the Mubarak regime.” He added that “the people should be prepared for war against Israel,” saying the world should understand that “the Egyptian people are prepared for anything to get rid of this regime.”

    Ghannem praised Egyptian soldiers deployed by President Hosni Mubarak to Egyptian cities, saying they “would not kill their brothers.” He added that Washington was forced to abandon plans to help Mubarak stay in power after “seeing millions head for the streets.”

    read the etymology of renagade again, obamas code name

  10. Tom Says:

    Terrye: What are you going to choose if your only two choices are 1)bad, or 2)worse?
    Mubarak is a “thug”, so you are prepared to like the MB? Fact is that Mubarak did not exactly squelsh the MB, which now holds ~20% of what passes for Parliament in Egypt.
    There are no other choices. We do not get to choose in Egypt, no matter what BS our Dear Leaders spout.
    “People have had enough”, you write, but how do you think the coming greater repression will make them better? Can you not learn from the past? See 1979–Iran. You would have thought the Shah a thug too, doubtless.

  11. Bob From Virginia Says:

    From Ed Moorrisey over at Hot Air
    “the Obama administration yesterday signaled that it supports the participation of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egyptian politics as long as they renounce violence and commit to democracy”.

    Someone else please comment, I am out of words.

  12. Tom Says:

    Hillary: What’s that ‘taqqiya’ mean? Seems to be often used by the muzzies, eh, Hussein? Oh, sorry…. Meester President.

  13. neo-neocon Says:

    Bob from Virginia: I will comment: knave and fool.

    And exactly the sort of thing expected from an Obama presidency.

  14. neo-neocon Says:

    Terrye: if your choices are bad or worse, you choose bad.

    It’s really quite simple, isn’t it?

  15. Parker Says:

    VA Bob: How’s this? “Holy cow Batman!”

    I’m not going to indulge in thinking that our president wants to see radical Islam come to power in Egypt, as tempting as that might be. I’m going to stick with what is probably closest to the truth. He and his administration are so many clowns fleeing a car that is on fire.

    (School’s out early here in Iowa… we have a blizzard on our hands, 10-16 inches of snow and 3-6′ snow drifts predicted by tomorrow morning. Nothing like a blizzard to remind one that we are not as mighty as our technology leads us to believe.)

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