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  1. I’m about 30 miles north of Philly, and there’s been a very light breeze with a light but persistent drizzle for about the last two hours, although the wind is starting to pick up a bit.

    I do think the warnings, preparations, evacuations, and shutdowns were justified. They were done based on the best available information at the time. Evacuations and subway shutdown decisions are not made lightly, since they cause disruption and take time. It’s much better to do them too early than too late, or not at all.

    Brendan Loy said it very well in his latest post:

    Bottom line, Irene is a big storm to be taken seriously, and it will cause a stormy weekend and plenty of damage, but this is by no means the worst-case scenario for NYC and the northeast – and to the extent the media or government is pretending otherwise, they need to ramp down the hype, for the sake of avoiding complacency about the next storm. Fear of a calamity was fully justified 24-36 hours ago, but we can now be quite confident this won’t be a world-historical disaster… even while being equally confident that it is a force to be reckoned with, and one residents should not blow off. Surely there must be some way to communicate both of these concepts simultaneously.

    (And get a load of the “weather truthers” in the comments!)

  2. Damned nice of the Girl to miss us’suns in Central Florida.

    Batten down those hatches, NeoNeo.

  3. My father was a junior at Norwich Free Academy in 1938. When the Long Island Express approached, the coach cancelled football practice and told the guys to take their helmets with them and help whom they could.
    Interesting stories followed.
    My grandfather ran a Mohican market and, my father found to his surprise they had an arrangement with the local militia to bake bread, the bakery being on the second floor.
    See “A Wind to Shake the World”.
    My father and a number of families had the custom of sumering on Bluff Point. Outdoor plumbing and indoor running cold water. But on the shore. The hurricane cleaned the cottages off completely and, with the war, nothing was rebuilt. It’s now a kind of park.

  4. I’m just west of Philadelphia and it’s been raining since, oh, noonish? We’re just getting the higher winds now. Power still on.

  5. I live on the SE VA coast. It was not as bad as was expected and is weakened still. I lost power a few times, but it has always come back. The lower side of the hurricane (west to east air flow) seems to have the heavier winds. Last hurricane in 2003, we lost power for 6 days.
    An 11 year old boy was killed when a tree came through the roof of his apartment complex. For those in the path, don’t take it lightly, please.

  6. Sitting in Lower Manhattan, in Little Italy. We’ve had bands of heavy rain with ponding in the streets and gutters, some strong wind tossing the trees vigorously. My main concern is that the ground here is saturated from a seven-inch rain two weeks ago; trees are vulnerable, and there’s a giant Chinese sumac in our courtyard that’s very close to my windows. I love the tree; it’s so green and beautiful. I also want to keep my windows intact!

    Funny scenes in the grocery stores: the yankees are going nuts over this like southerners do over a four-inch snowfall. HEre’s hoping it’s just a tropical storm when it gets here. (actually, it already IS here, just the outriding bands of rain that precede the eye, which is, after all, the intermission).

    A friend had an interesting idea: “What if the government overreacted because they want to test out some of their anti-terrorism scenarios without freaking us out? This storm would give them the perfect cover.” It would make a bit more sense of Mayor Bloomerpants’ decision to shut down the transit system a full day before we even have heavy weather.

    We in NYC should call this “Hurricane Bloomberg,” because he’s inconveniencing us a LOT more than Irene. There’s a loooong list of edicts and forbidden activities. And it’s a perfect example of the Leftist, nanny state, “for your own good!” control-freak approach to governance.

  7. We in NYC should call this “Hurricane Bloomberg,” because he’s inconveniencing us a LOT more than Irene. There’s a loooong list of edicts and forbidden activities. And it’s a perfect example of the Leftist, nanny state, “for your own good!” control-freak approach to governance.

    Yes. The most infuriating thing about “mandatory evacuations” is when the authorities prevent people from returning to their own homes afterwards “for their own safety”. That is unacceptable in a free society.

    A much better way to handle evacuations would be to strongly recommend that people evacuate vulnerable areas, and announce that 911 service will not be available during the emergency and that those who choose to stay do so at their own risk. That would let individuals decide for themselves what to do. That would, of course, be anathema to nanny-statists.

  8. See Brendan Loy’s most recent post:

    Irene: Watching the Surge

    It’s pretty sobering reading. See also this comment from that link:

    4. Lin W
    Thank you for the great charts! *Really* brings it home.

    Ive been saying on another forum (waves to Quilly!)that the problem in NYC is that so much of the important infrastructure is underground and *very* apt to be renedered useless with flooding. I read an article earlier today that said that more than 15 million gallons of water are pumped out of the subways, every *dry* day. Of course, the rain alone will raise that amount, and then theres whatever storm surge may come creeping or crashing in. Think about everybodys sewer backing up and their electrical service going out, simultaneously.

    You won’t hear me defend Bloomberg very often, but I think shutting down the subway was the correct move, given the forecasts. I guess we’ll see.

  9. I’m in downtown Boston at around noon on Sunday. The wind is whipping up to gusts around 45 mph and there’s rain, but it’s not expected to get a whole lot worse and it is officially a tropical storm. Considering a lot of our subway is above ground, shutting down the “T” seems to be the right call.

    It was funny watching the Weather Channel (which I believe is owned by NBC) and how they were pushing the undercurrent that this was a “once in a lifetime storm” caused by “climate change”. I haven’t seen a single mention of the fact that two stronger (or at least as strong) hurricanes that I lived through as a kid hit Long Island/Southern Massachusetts in 1985 (Gloria) and 1991 (Bob)(these people always cite storms from early in the 1900’s). Considering there haven’t been any major hurricanes hitting the US in several years, a lot of this hysteria is also a case of having something real to talk about instead of depressions forming off the coast of Bermuda.

    I chuckled as one commentator on the Weather Channel, in responding to another’s comment that the storm was likely to be downgraded to a category 1 or tropical storm by the time it hit New York, breathlessly said, “Throw out the categories as you know them! This is still one of the largest and deadliest storms to hit the Northeast in history!”

    Get that guy a regular commenting segment on MSNBC with Chris Matthews! Way to stick with the narrative in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

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