Who’s deserting Obama now?
Actually, I distrust the results of the poll, which I think must be over-exaggerated. What could have happened in the last week to cause black voters to migrate in such great numbers away from Obama?
And I don’t think it’s the growing visibility of Herman Cain. After all, we all know that Republicans are racist.
Was it Roger L. Simon over at Pajamas Media who (as a Jew) found himself mortified at the Bernard Madoff situation? — because he knew and everyone knew that Madoff is also a Jew.
One conjecture is that a slowly growing number of black people are growing mortified via-a-vis The One. Verrrrry sloooowly growing, but growing nonetheless.
I do remember one black friend of mine [establishment liberal, could not conceive of voting (R), although she was very conservative socially] making a very wry, disapproving face when I happened to mention Dee Cee mayor-for-life Marion Barry (1980s). (Marion Barry was a convicted criminal and every street urchin knew that he had his access to drugs and women.)
But I digress. Anyway, this is one conjecture as to what may (finally) be happening, albeit as neo notes, probably exaggerated.
It almost takes a perfect storm for a sitting President to not be reelected. Despite everything, no way do I count Obama out.
Just a speculation:
Perhaps the hidden successor to Journolist is formulating stories like this to: create overconfidence among Republicans; trick the GOP into nominating a candidate who will alienate some of the votes needed to win; and/or set the stage for concocting momentum for Obama as the election approaches.
In 2008 BHO was a chance to vote for a ‘brother’ and break the barrier. Things have changed and many blacks, along with many others, are disillusioned with BHO. The poor economy, especially unemployment, is hitting the black community very hard. Apathy will cost BHO a portion of the black vote in 2012. If its 10% (or more) that will be significant. That doesn’t mean they will vote for a republican (unless Cain is on the ticket), it means they will stay home.
Journolist was so simple…
the same gets done by hierarchy…
ie… a few mention something in passing
like Soros mentioning something a while back about obama (about a year ago)
“We have just lost this election, we need to draw a line,” he said, according to several Democratic sources. “And if this president can’t do what we need, it is time to start looking somewhere else.”Soros Nov 2010
then slowly it turns
step by step
inch by inch…
go to open society foundations…
frm cuing the press and media with such articles like
Too Much Doubt to Execute
Sara J. Totonchi, about Troy Davis
to stuff like this
another interesting article
The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness
and
Black Faces in White Places: Becoming a Game Changer in a Competitive World
First time trying to quote, so hopefully this works…
I could be wrong, and this might not be showing up yet, but it would seem to me that his addresses to the CBC and such lately have left a lot of them quite upset.
I’ve heard Maxine Waters and Tavis Smiley, among others, actually sounding quite peeved at Obama and wondering why he’s essentially leaving them in the cold and telling them to quit whining, all the while telling them to “March with me!” The whole “Take off your slippers” stuff…
See here.
Just based on what I’ve been seeing recently, this has been building for a while.
sweet. My quote worked. <=ºD
The Lefty blog “NoMoreMisterNiceBlog” had a post earlier today calling Dick Morris a liar for deliberately presenting the poll results in a way not consistent with the actual data.
I did not look through the poll’s specifics myself, but if what the blogger is saying is true, then Morris is way off the mark with his analysis in that article.
That’s a big drop. Too big to go without skepticism.
The usual trope for the problems in the black underclass, and middle class, is that it’s the fault of racism. Thus quote the race hustlers, and I’d be surprised if their decades of repetition haven’t had an effect. Thus, Obama is insulated.
Still, Obama is part white, part Kenyan, has no slave experience in his family except if they sold slaves generations ago. Grew up in Hawaii. Eventually, his lived experience will be obviously different from those of US blacks.
Could lose ten percent or so. More…?
I think it would help clarify things if they polled native american gay midgets.
Well let’s not go off half-cocked on the turning away of African-American voters. Absent Cain where else do they have to turn? They’re not going anywhere. They’ll hang in? Why? Because of race, of course.
If you listen to black talk radio, you’ll find the level of support for Obama is almost unanimous – hardly ever is a caller or host non-supportive. The Tea Party has become a huge target and will be used to energize black voters.
Energizing black voters is the key. Obama’s percentage of support among black voters will still be above 90%. But turnout may be lower because the level of enthusiasm is not where it was 4 years ago. There is definitely some level of disappointment.
Of course that’s where the Tea Party comes in. If you can’t energize people with enthusiasm, you can always try fear instead.
Like I said, listen to black talk radio.
There’s no way that the folks who’ve kept Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, Marion Barry, Sharpe James, Charles Rangel, et al. in power will EVER turn their backs on Obaama. Not gonna happen.
Oh, they’ll gripe about him. But the race baiters will do their worst, and they’ll turn out for him again: if anything, in only slightly reduced numbers: say 92% instead of 98% for him. And for sure, apart from Larry Elder, Alonzo Rachel, Thomas Sowell, and a few other stalwarts, they’re not going to vote for any Republicans, including Cain.
If Cain keeps any momentum, watch for the Clarence Thomas treatment to begin asap.
Reading the comments on Herman Cain’s remark about Blacks being “brainwashed” to vote for Democrats convinces me that he is 100% correct. The Democrat’s political machine is so entrenched that they could elect any incompetent fool to represent their community because the Republicans have been painted as the enemy of the downtrodden. Individual responsibiliy does not sell well amonst the dependent class regardless of their race or ethnic background. Obama is safe with his constituancy.
Does it make me a racist if i find Herman Cain even more delightful to listen to than a white guy that may be saying the same things?
Stark
The Democrat’s political machine is so entrenched that they could elect any incompetent fool to represent their community…
Which they have done. Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee……..
But the Demos are nothing if not Equal Opportunity “folk.” Slow Joe Biden, for example.
Every time ∅bama talks about “folk,” I think of “volk.”
I cannot see the black vote for ∅bama dropping by more than 15%, nearly all of that by abstention. Recall that black turnout was much higher in 2008 compared to 2004. The “racist evil Republicans” meme is just too deeply entrenched.
Send this video on to as many people as you know:
Ray Stevens does Mr. President.
The question, rhetorical or otherwise, “Where can blacks go?” implies a good deal.
It implies that dems, particularly black dems, are demonstrably better for blacks than republicans, particularly white republicans. The response to the implied question–prove it–of course goes to the usual stuff like slavery, Jim Crow, etc. IOW, does not address the question.
I expect white liberals know better, but they can’t afford to say so in public because they need the resentment and the votes of blacks. The question is why blacks believe this stuff–Detroit, anybody?–which it appears they do. There’s no percentage in it for them to pretend, a few self-appointed race hustlers excepted, that things are going swimmingly in, say, Detroit except for where the republicans make all this trouble.
Certainly makes a point for the cumulative effect of the cumulative effect of propaganda.
Thing about propaganda is that it need not be one Big Lie one time, hitting you upside the head like a wet sandbag. It’s the constant drumbeat, from all sides and in all kinds of media and venues, with no countervailing information. That there was no epidemic of black churches being burned some years ago has not penetrated some of the libs’ strongholds. The lie holds and the countervailing information is not –not allowed?–in.
Once you have staked out a position, one that satisfies you, there will be resistance to finding out that the facts you thought you had were false. If they’re false, this satisfying and useful view of the world is false. Like getting a root canal without anesthetic. And, to continue the burning-churches metaphor, it satisfies and reinforces the view that white racism is all around and answers all questions about why things are not going well. To give up the belief in burning churches means beginning to give up the belief in white racism being the reason for all the troubles.
So it won’t be given up, no matter. Ditto many other lies. The view it/they support is too valuable.
Over-exaggerated? Neo, I”m surprised at you.
Nothing much surprises me about Obama anymore, but I was stunned at the demeaning and patronizing tone he took in his recent speech to the Congressional Black Caucus. He took his usual tone-deaf arrogance to a new level.
If his shameless, preacher-inspired remarks about taking off bedroom slippers to “march” with him weren’t a wake up call for blacks who previously supported him, I don’t know what would be.
Victor Davis Hanson says here that our post-racial president has set race relations back decades:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/278526/obama-s-racial-crisis-victor-davis-hanson
But, all that said, he IS the first black president and for many that will always override what kind of person he is and what kind of job he has done.
I’m reminded of the reaction after the OJ Simpson trial. Clearly the guy was guilty but there was still a groundswell of support for him among certain segments of the population.
To Democrats who claim to represent the interests of blacks I pose the question: if blacks were to become indistinguishable from whites economically, which party would gain, and which would lose?
Rhetorical question, obviously.
“Reading the comments on Herman Cain’s remark about Blacks being “brainwashed” to vote for Democrats convinces me that he is 100% correct.’
Just goes to show how prescient LBJ was when he signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. He supposedly quipped about the impact to the Democratic Party about signing it into law [paraphrasing – I’m too lazy to try to find the exact quote, but this is very close]: “We’ll lose the southern white vote for a generation, but the niggers will be voting for us for the next 200 years.”
I take some pleasure in the fact that blacks and young people are paying dearly for their Obama vote. They were dumb enough to do it the first time and they will do it again.
Herman Cain is an authentic black man who is qualified by virtue of experience and performance for high office. Blacks and college kids won’t notice.
Mr. Frank. Yeah. From time to time, hearing youngsters complaining about, say, the new reg on asthma inhalers (one woman was wearing a surgical mask in church), I mutter, “I didn’t vote for those clowns.” She’s a greenie lib. If you’re alert, there are more opportunities than you might think.
Cold comfort when I consider my kids and their kids didn’t vote for zero and they’re paying, too.
Obama backstabs everyone. He’s certainly done nothing to reform the “war on drugs” or the sentencing disparity vis-a-vis the two forms of cocaine that causes so much issues in the black community.
But yes, blacks will still overwhelmingly vote for him because, as others have said, Repubicans are the devil. The lowest percentage I could see Obama getting of the black vote in this election is 85 percent, and more likely he’s only actually lost maybe 2 percentage points. Black voters are total ideological hostages to the Democratic party.
If you’ve ever wondered how the southern states can go Republican with large black populations, it’s very simple. If all the blacks are voting for candidate A and you are not black, then you vote for candidate B. It’s a shame it has come down to this, but when one side votes race down the line, your options are pretty limited if you are not that race.
I blame Joe McGinniss. His allegation in his new book that Sarah Palin had a “fetish” for black men and had sex with Glen Rice when she was single has piqued their interest in “going Republican.”
Blacks won’t be allowed to escape the plantation. That roll is only favorable vs unfavorable. Doesn’t mean they will vote Republican.