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  1. Let’s consider the Tsongas clip. It is eighteen years old. He wasn’t heeded then. nor is he now, except by those stupid Tea Party folks.
    We are outa good luck, done pissed it away. The Mitt-Newt Show is disgustingly destructive of both, with us all as collateral damage.

    Santorum is the nearest thing we have to a Tsongas. And he’s doing about as well.

  2. I loved Paul Tsongas back in 1991 before my core belief change.

    But guess what.

    I still love Paul Tsongas.

    People like Paul and Patrick Moynihan don’t seem to exist in the Democrat party anymore.

    There is no Zell Miller.

    There is no economically literate, generationally responsible Democrat in office that I know.

  3. Don Carlos,

    I disagree with you.

    I like Santorum better than Romney but Romney does understand economics better than Gingrich and can represent free markets and generational responsibility.

    This I believe.

  4. neoneocon…Thanks for the Tsongas clip. Nearly teared up myself. Class man in another lifetime.

  5. Can a liberal reader here pipe up and comment for a second?

    Please tell us how we can get to a situation where the federal government (letting alone the state, county and city governments) have by themselves a 60 TRILLION plus obligation for entitlements….

    … on top of the 15 TRILLION dollar debt…

    … on top of the 1.6 TRILLION dollars added to the debt (a defecit) each year representing 40% of spending that isn’t met with revenues…

    and you aren’t scared for our kids and grandkids and have no sense of obligation.

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND that every great and huge nation has fallen and you can’t explain it as we are too great and too prosperous.

    The law of economics applies to everyone.

    Nobody will lend money to a cocaine addict except for liberals maybe.

    China and other countries with cash want to see more on their return (this translates to higher interest rates)

    Our debt represents over 100% GDP and this does NOT equate to a family budget where a family owes 200,000 on a house when they only make $60,000.

    This is because the debt is not going to an assett. There is NO TURN around here.

    This is owing $60,000 when you make $60,000 and seeing no change in spending patterns adding 40% more to that debt over income ongoing.

    I have friends who have shopping problems.

    At the same time they have health problems representing the 60 trillion in obligations – in their case it’s hundreds of thousands of obligations to their own issues yet they have a spending problem now.

    It’s a sickness.

    It’s robbing our future generation.

    It’s not ok even in the name of “do-goodism”.

    Especially if you tear down conservatives as not caring. You can take your liberal stone cold hearted conservative name calling self and process yourself into hell for what you are doing – all in the name of do-goodism.

    Let’s figure out a way to work together now that our name calling is done. Look at yourself in the mirror, then come on this blog and tell us you understand now. We ALL care. Liberals don’t hold a monopoly on caring.

    In fact – I’d say that liberals are lazy and non-adult like because they can’t make the adult decisions.

    It’s better to teach a man to fish than give him fish. (I’m not talking about the elderly)

  6. Well, if Gingrich is stooping to using the same tactics as Romney is using against him, then shame on him. I refer to Romney’s use of a Tom Brokaw clip to slam Newt on ethics charges back in 1997.

    In the end, the IRS reviewed the charges against Gingrich and cleared him. It was a left wing witch hunt and the RINOs swallowed it. Byron York has a very good post explaining the history at the Washington Examiner.

    Here’s how it works. Find some issue that might be spun to be an ethics violation. File a bunch of ethics complaints. Get the media to hype the charges. File some more charges to keep the pot stirred. Force the target to spend a fortune on lawyers defending themselves. When the target eventually resigns or retreats, claim a victory for the people against an unethical politician.

    They did this with Palin, starting with troopergate, and continued, until she was $500,000 in debt, hopelessy bogged down defending herself and her administration, and with no help from her own party (mainly because she’d nailed too many of them on corruption charges).

    They did this with Tom DeLay.

    And they did it to Gingrich.

    For Romney to use this, without disclosing that Gingrich was cleared of all charges, is pretty low by my book.

  7. Tsongas is wrong. The country does not need leadership. That view accepts the implicit conflation of “country” with “government”. The country, the people, will be fine if left to their own devices. If they need leadership, they can turn toward God.

    It is a great country. The government, however, has become a stinking morass of self-serving filth. Perhaps Tsongas was one of the few good people who wanted to serve humbly and was not mired in political power-shuffling. He was still wrong. Leadership is not developed by political means.

    The politicization of everything is both cause and symptom of our national decay.

  8. Way to go Michael (Graham):

    “Smoke gets in Mitt’s guise:

    “You really want to stop Newt? It’s simple. Dump Mitt. Stop whining about Gingrich winning, stop flogging the GOP’s “designated establishment loser of 2012” and back someone else”.

    “As long as the Republican Party stamps its feet and demands conservatives support the unsupportable Mitt Romney, they’re going to lose”.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?&articleid=1399069&format=&page=1&listingType=opi#articleFull

  9. Great News – Exclusive Poll:
    “Gingrich, Romney in Dead Heat Statewide”

    “Florida is up for grabs when it comes to next week’s Republican primary, according to a new Dixie Strategies/First Coast News poll”.
    “According to the new results out today, Newt Gingrich leads over Mitt Romney statewide, but his lead is well within the poll’s1.93 percent margin of error”…

    http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/article/238481/483/Exclusive-Poll-Gingrich-Romney-in-Dead-Heat-Statewide?fb_ref=artsharetop

  10. You run an excellent blog and your readers often have worthwhile comments to make. Newt is a very articulate and intelligent speaker ,but unfortunately all this is directed to aggrandizing his ambition rather than showing a coherent vision for the country. He has a character problem. The only thing in his favor is that he would be better than BO,but that isn’t much of a reccommendation,is it?

    The link to Tsongas was nice-too bad his campaign ran out of money.

  11. “The basic, sacred obligation of one generation to the next has been violated.”

    So very true and very sad as it has been violated 10E6 these last 30 years.

    “The country, the people, will be fine if left to their own devices.”

    True foxmarks as long as we allow fools to suffer for the folly of their actions. But that lesson has been lost and fools seem to out number us 2 to 1.

  12. All actions towards Gingrich are from self-inflicted wounds. It’s so cute to see Gingrich being endorse by Perry and Cain. I’m sure Gingrich will watch with his own awe Perry’s “Deer in the head lights look” as he repeats “Oops” over and over again! And Cain’s endorsement reeks of complacency with Newton’s gregarious philandering. Gingrich – the defrocked speaker of the House, original godfather of government gridlock, two-faced philandering impeacher of Bill Clinton, fondler of six-figure Tiffany jewels and now in a dead heat with Romney? Not! I like the debates and wait for one or two go down in flames. This is bigotry and discrimination in America. This bigotry and prejudice is taught. From mother and father and friendships. It even emanates from our political leaders. Bigotry and prejudice are alive in 2012! Newton Leroy called Barack Obama the “Food Stamp President! Continuing with poor people should want paychecks, not handouts. In South Carolina, the center of bigotry and discrimination in the South as they still fly the Confederacy flag. His tactic in South Carolina smacks of the type of rhetoric used in his “Southern Strategy” and his “bread and butter” wordage bordering on racism. Romney and Gingrich sniping at each other proves how childish these guys are. Every politician running for any office any where in America should be held to the judicial standard of Voir Dire in every word they speak!

  13. Romney is toast. In 1994 Damon Corp a medical diagnostics company which Bain invested in and Romney sat on the Board of Directors of, was fined $119,000,000 for Medicare fraud for defrauding Medicare to the tune of $25,000,000. Bain then drew $12,000,000 out of the company, $400,000 of which went into Romney’s pocket, and it went bankrupt in 2000. You can bet Obama knows this and he and the MSM will clobber Romney with it and by the time they’re done with him Romney will be about as electable as Bruno Hauptman.

  14. It is going to be hard to hold my nose for Gingrich. Not only do I have a problem with this casual dishonesty… it comes back to bite groups that use it. The general public dislikes ‘liberals’ but not ‘conservatives’ (even if they don’t vote for them; the negatives with the general public are not there).

  15. I apologize that this comment is slightly off-topic. I’ll try not to make a lot of them.

    Today, Jan. 30, 2012, The Muppets/puppets, “responded to” comments made by Fox news. Some Fox News reporters took issue with the 2012 film: “The Muppets”. Some FN reporters thought that the film might be doing anti-capitalist/anti-big business propaganda, propaganda aimed at kids, since the film has an oil executive as the villain.

    To me, that is all very well.
    However, today, the Muppets puppets, Miss Piggy + Kermit, had a [news conference] to counter what the Fox News people had said.

    Well, to keep the people, who run the Muppets TV shows + movies, looking legitimate, I would’ve liked the writers of the puppet movies doing a response, instead of the daft or underhanded tactic of having [fictional puppet characters] talk to the press, and children and adults, [about real life issues and problems].
    In the press meeting, Kermit stated that “the Muppets” are not against oil companies.

    In the same meeting, Miss Piggy made a statement like: [are the Muppets and U.S. liberals trying to brainwash your kids against capitalism? that is so absurd. That is like saying Fox News actually reports News].

    Ok, if firstly, if I actually debate what M. Piggy and Kermit have said, then I guess I’m giving the M. Piggy + Kermit puppets an actual voice in U.S. politics. Very well, to respond to MP’s + Kermit’s statements, and/or the statements made by MP + Kermit’s writers + “puppet performers” I guess I must address what M. Piggy + Kermit, and the real life [Muppets company], have said.
    I am slightly ok with the Muppets puppets responding to a reporter’s statements.

    If the Muppets writers want to act dumb or daft, by talking to REAL LIFE reporters, by talking through puppets, well, in my view, if the people using puppets turn others against Fox News: 1) the Muppet puppeteers are brainwashing kids with little/or no rational thoughts, kids under 9, who can’t vote, so those kids don’t bother my political life or 2) if a man voter or woman voter, is dumb enough to let [talking puppets] sway them to dislike Fox News, then that voter is no smarter than that 8-year-old child, in my view.
    Having puppeteers use puppets, to respond to real life reporters, or respond to political events, is patently absurd, I realize.

    But I take issue with Miss Piggy’s puppet operator implying that: Fox News doesn’t report actual news or truthful news.

    The original challenge, or concern, of the Fox News reporter, was that the Muppet puppets maybe are being used to brainwash kids against- certain companies or people.
    When the puppeteer has Miss Piggy, the puppet, imply, [Fox News doesn’t report real news], then, The Muppets puppet company actually IS doing negative propaganda/brainwashing against the Fox News employees and/or real people.
    Just a request: Don’t respond to accusations of negative propaganda, with ACTUAL negative propaganda.

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