May 2nd, 2012

Obama the boyfriend

Although I’m heartily sick of the topic of Barack Obama right now, I can’t quite ignore this piece about Obama’s college and immediate post-college years, as seen through the eyes of his girlfriends and the love letters they saved (or perhaps I should say “correspondence”), and the journal entries they turned over to David Maraniss, author of a new biography of Obama that has just been excerpted in Vanity Fair.

I only skimmed the piece, which is long and not really all that interesting. But I read enough to say the following:

Assuming that the letters and other writings are authentic—and I have no reason to doubt that at the moment—we can say that Obama was a not-atypical bright young guy who wrote pretentiously about Literature and Life and Love in classic student style. We can also say that he’s clearly heterosexual, and that much of his personality back then seems very familiar to those who study him now. The coolness, the distance, the sense of someone behind a veil and profoundly unknowable, were already evident even to the women who got closest to him.

I also think it’s interesting to compare and contrast Obama with Romney at approximately the same age. They were almost opposites. Obama was still searching for a father and an identity; Romney had an unusually strong dose of both. Obama was drifting; Romney was a family man who already was married with children and focused on his future (Romney married at 22 and became a father at 23). Obama smoked and drank, and more; Romney was a teetotaler and non-smoker. And yet they both were the products of similar educations: private prep schools and Harvard Law (and in Romney’s case, Harvard Business as well).

33 Responses to “Obama the boyfriend”

  1. Commenter formerly know as roc scssrs Says:

    Too bad he couldn’t find himself before he found himself President.

  2. vanderleun Says:

    “Assuming that the letters and other writings are authentic—and I have no reason to doubt that at the moment—”

    And why would you since the machine has now had a number of years to prepare and place them?

  3. bad haikumenter Says:

    Assuming this story was planted/encouraged by the Obama Campaign, this is a racially notable moment: Obama with a white girl.

    This means the Obama Campaign has judged it more important to build Obama’s likeability … than to hide a photo of Obama with a white girl. Its an acknowledgement that the Obama Campaign judges that the subset of undecided voters who are racist … is smaller than the subset of undecided voters who do not like Obama. Notable. Its a hint that Obama Campaign internal polling, re Obama’s likeability, does not jibe with public polling re the President’s likeability.

    Or, maybe the Obama Campaign had nothing to do with this. Maybe this was all David Marannis, and low hanging fruit, and has no deeper significance.

  4. Sally Says:

    I thought this was interesting: “Obama was the central character in his letters, in a self-conscious way, with variations on the theme of his search for purpose and self-identity.” Sadly, it still seems to be his main theme.

  5. neo-neocon Says:

    vanderleun: did you read the letters? The tone has the ring of authenticity, in part because they’re so pretentious and self-conscious. If someone were forging them I very much doubt they’d put that tone in, and they’d almost certainly have made them read better.

  6. holmes Says:

    I agree with Althouse that this supports that he wrote his own memoirs- very similar styles (I’ve read excerpts, I’m not plowing through those things).

    Amazing that they could only find this stuff 4 years later. I’m stunned.

  7. Roman Says:

    When the history is written about Obama as President, will it be found in the fiction isle?

  8. Doom Says:

    Well, one got everywhere on merit. The other was handed everything, possibly with politics in mind even then. Both had big money back in the family tree, I believe, which… sort of boosted their odds, regardless of merit. One worked with what he had, the other just took whatever was given. Nothing has changed, from what I can tell. Nobel prize, anyone?

  9. rickl Says:

    No, I’m not going to read Obama’s love letters.

    I already couldn’t stand to see his face and hear his voice even before he was elected. So love letters, no.

  10. neo-neocon Says:

    rickl: they’re not really love-love letters. They are more about him.

    Not that I’m necessarily suggesting that you read them.

  11. CV Says:

    Is there anyone more self-absorbed than this guy? Even by college student standards, it’s pretty remarkable.

    Let’s hope we all get to break up with him in a few months.

  12. rickl Says:

    neo-neocon Says:
    May 2nd, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    They are more about him.

    So they are love letters.

  13. neo-neocon Says:

    rickl: LOL.

  14. Beverly Says:

    Meanwhile, the Drudge Report has this headline:

    “Obama Admits Fabricating Girlfriend in Memoir.”

    Links to a Politico piece explaining that all the alleged girlfriends in his memoir were “composite characters,” as BO admits. Not real.

    Jury’s still out, but I think he’s at the very least a switch-hitter.

  15. Beverly Says:

    More here, from Powerline:

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/05/barrys-imaginary-girlfriend.php

    …with a couple of excerpts from Barry’s “love letters”, which one girl kept.

  16. KLSmith Says:

    Obama didn’t go to church to find God; he looked in the mirror.

  17. texexec Says:

    I think Obama is a dangerous man mostly because I suspect he is a front man for a dangerous group of people.

    I have a strong impression that he was picked up early on by this group (probably including Bill Ayers and his wife) as a person who could eventually get elected to high office and was groomed for that.

    Becoming a community organizer, writing his autobiography (and maybe he DIDN’T write it himself), networking in Rev. Wright’s church, probably being advised to vote present in all those state senate and even USA Senate votes so he wouldn’t have to defend any of his extreme positions, etc. all make me very suspicious.

    This “composite girl friend” deal sounds to me like more of the same.

  18. Perfected democrat Says:

    Larry Sinclair….

  19. Artfldgr Says:

    CLUE:

    If you pretend to admire sadism you can see it easier, as those who DO admire sadism, love it, but have to hide it from others who don’t. this is how the sub-clinical sociopathic narcissist gets away with it!!!!

    learn to see with their eyes, not yours..
    you are the one to be tricked, so your eyes wont see as your goals are not their goals.
    but see with their eyes, and you see their goals, not yours.

  20. DirtyJobsGuy Says:

    One of the girlfriends perceived that she would be dumped for a future black girlfriend as Barry moved to establish is “Black” identity. Despite the lit school style she was pretty perceptive. Compare to Clarence Thomas who was raised speaking Gullah (no need to establish a “Black” identity) but married a white girl. Barack needed not only a trophy wife but one for racial purposes as well. What a maroon!

  21. Artfldgr Says:

    Obama was still searching for a father and an identity; Romney had an unusually strong dose of both. Obama was drifting; Romney was a family man who already was married with children and focused on his future (Romney married at 22 and became a father at 23). Obama smoked and drank, and more; Romney was a teetotaler and non-smoker. And yet they both were the products of similar educations: private prep schools and Harvard Law (and in Romney’s case, Harvard Business as well).

    yeah.. Romney came from a hetronormative western culture home…

    and Obama came from a Liberated Feminist multicultural basis.

    By 1996, 70 percent of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long-term sentences were raised by single mothers. Seventy percent of teenage births, dropouts, suicides, runaways, juvenile delinquents and child murderers involve children raised by single mothers. Girls raised without fathers are more sexually promiscuous and more likely to end up divorced.

    A 1990 study by the left-wing Progressive Policy Institute showed that, after controlling for single motherhood, the difference in black and white crime disappeared.

    Various studies come up with slightly different numbers, but all the figures are grim. A study cited in the far left-wing Village Voice found that children brought up in single-mother homes “are five times more likely to commit suicide, nine times more likely to drop out of high school, 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances, 14 times more likely to commit rape (for the boys), 20 times more likely to end up in prison, and 32 times more likely to run away from home.”

    the best thing a mother can do for her kids is NOT to be a feminist… it takes sociopathy to do that life and not be damaged by the results of living that communist toxic idea.

    In 1990, 28 percent of children under 18 were being raised in one-parent homes — mother or father, divorced or never-married. By 2005, more than one-third of all babies born in the U.S. were illegitimate.
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    Even in liberals’ fevered nightmares, predatory mortgage dealers, oil speculators and Ken Lay could never do as much harm to their fellow human beings as single mothers do to their own children, to say nothing of society at large.

    “Feminism, Socialism, and Communism are one in the same, and Socialist/Communist government is the goal of feminism.” – Catharine A. MacKinnon, Toward a Feminist Theory of the State (First Harvard University Press, 1989), p.10

    “Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the Women’s Movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage.” — Sheila Cronan, “Marriage,” in Koedt, Levine, and Rapone, eds., Radical Feminism, p. 219.

    see? they sell it to the women that they are victims. but the ULTERIOR goal is eugenics.

    “For one of the implicit, if unadmitted, tenets of feminism has been a fundamental disrespect for men.” — Wendy Dennis

    “How will the family unit be destroyed? … the demand alone will throw the whole ideology of the family into question, so that women can begin establishing a community of work with each other and we can fight collectively. Women will feel freer to leave their husbands and become economically independent, either through a job or welfare.” — From Female Liberation by Roxanne Dunbar

    Way to go girls..

    you didn’t make smart women, able children and all that. you just made sex toys, welfare parasites, and genocides the smart poor families…

    but REMEMBER!!!

    NEVER EVER EVER hold them to RESULTS
    ALWAYS hold socioapathic narcisists cargo cultists to INTENTS… that way you cant blame them for exterminating your family in favor of theirs..

    as they have the money to pay for the men to be there in school to pick the best women, and then put aside as infertile their rejects. never worryig that some poor kid with that woman, and a decent father might go to bronx science (or some other good school by working hard), and rise up from the ghetto on their own…

    they arent elite, they are neuveu and should be crushed before the weed grows.

    right?

    well that weed is the children of the useful idiots following feminism.

    these outcomes were planned you can read bout it… but then again, isnt that what a con is? selling the victim on a lie to cover the ulterior motive that serves the con artist?

    they were a lot happier in the past

    they had more healthy children, in the past

    they didnt get cancer and such in rates, in the past

    they didnt die alone in institutions and prey of those that take care of them and steal their money

    they traded all that for what?

    a job, infertility, genocide or defective chidren, and a message that tweaks their vannity…

    good luck with that.. as this is self correcting
    the genocided are off the playinf fields

    and if they keep fighting to prove they are not genocided, and are wrong, what will happen?

    to your fate… to your fate..
    reality will not be denied for long

  22. Occam's Beard Says:

    And why would you since the machine has now had a number of years to prepare and place them?

    “Dear Diary,

    I am writing down my thoughts about a girl because some people have been saying will someday say I’m weird because I had have no girlfriends. Then I can point to this piece and say, “See? Toldya!” and that’ll be real handy when I run re-election against Mitt Romney whoever runs against me in the distant future.

    While I’m at it, maybe I’ll do a little hazmat work and say how much I love to joke about eating dog, just to get those Twittering clowns off my back about the dog-eating part in one of my autobiographies, should I decide to write them later and include the dog story. Then if by some chance this diary should be leak during my re-election campaign – stranger things have happened – I can say the dog-eating bit was a running gag with me back when. Er, “now.”

    Yours,

    Barry”

  23. Francesca Says:

    The girlfriend wasn’t a composite; she was a compressed girlfriend. Compressed. OK.

  24. Simon H Gedney Says:

    CRUDITY ALERT: If one of his girlfriends was a composite of several individuals, then we know that at least one of them had a vagina. The rumors which float around Chicago of Obama’s bisexuality remain, neither refuted nor confirmed.

    I think that Obama’s biographies are ghostwritten, which isn’t unusual. However, that means that one cannot assume that his writing demonstrates his sexual bent. Since we can assume that he approved the writing before publication, we can assume that Obama’s political viewpoints are represented,

  25. Sharkjumper Says:

    “We can also say that he’s clearly heterosexual..”

    Well, we can say it if we want to, but I don’t know how you would infer this from his writings. I hope no hetero guy has ever written stuff like this and sent it to you..!

  26. neo-neocon Says:

    Sharkjumper: you’re correct. I didn’t say exactly what I meant; the fuller thought would have been: as a young man, he certainly had sexual relationships with women. Because lots of people were citing the lack of evidence of that as evidence that Obama was gay, and that Michelle was just a marriage of convenience. Of course, however, relationships with women don’t preclude being bisexual.

    My personal opinion, though, for what it’s worth (which is about zero, since I’m not privy to Obama’s sexual preferences) is that Obama is a person of fairly low sexual drive but that he’s heterosexual. His predominant emotional makeup is cool and removed. And these writings of the girlfriends, and his supposed love letters (which I said in the post should probably more rightly be called “correspondence” than “love letters”) bear that impression out very strongly.

  27. Ymarsakar Says:

    If they are about him, Neo, then they would be self confessed love letters.

  28. Willy Wonka Says:

    Yes,

    But then you could compare Obama with just about any other candidate or any previous president at just about any age and find him coming up wanting. The only really impressive thing he has ever done is to fool most of the people some of the time. People need to vote anti-stupid this time.

  29. holmes Says:

    Instalanche! Congrats!

  30. RebeccaH Says:

    All I got from the whole girlfriend flap is that Obama was a self-absorbed twit then, and not much has changed since.

  31. Ron19 Says:

    Artfldgr:

    “…but the ULTERIOR goal is eugenics….”

    So, who is it that wants not just the unlikable people, not just the unproductive people, not just the people that disagree, not just the lower classes, not just the people that don’t actively agree and support, not just everybody else, but who wants absolutely all of humanity to cease to exist?

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