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  1. Conquest, along with Richard Pipes, taught me the history of the Soviet Union.

    Every Westerner should be forced at some point in their education before college to read (at least) parts of The Great Terror and Harvest of Sorrow – forced to be free, I suppose 🙂

    (ant to that end, someone really should create an anthology of Conquest’s writings – I bet ISI would be interested in doing something like that).

  2. There’s much to recommend about Mr. Conquest but in his concerns — rogue states — he seems to have been caught too much in the past. There’s more than rogue states that threaten us particularly, and peace generally. There’s more that’s unconscionable, wicked, and rogue, in our own institutions than in any of the bad actors with big weapons.

    I’ll have Whitaker Chamber make my point for me in one line: “The success of Communism…is never greater than the failure of all other faiths.”

    As we have a bigger stage now, the principle player is now not recrudescent Communism alone but an entire ensemble of evil villains. The EU would do to Western Europe with faux ‘democracy’ what the Warsaw Pact threatened with the stick (tanks) and promised with the carrot (détente, i.e. the western Europe’s appeasements). The United Nations is the most corrupt institution in the world and makes the Russian mob and drug cartels look primitive but preferable nevertheless. NATO, under the auspices of the U S military, is without a mission and its calling card might just as well read “Have Gun, Will Travel”.

    There’s no making a better world with a great moral vacuum, open corruption, and treason implicit in policy and explicit in consequence. And I haven’t even gotten to the greatest social pathogen in the history of the world — Islam.

    The problems of the world are not new; we just haven’t what it takes to solve them. Which is my cue to say I haven’t even gotten to the greatest disappointment in the history of the West and now as much yet another institutional problem as the others … the Christian church.

    Good luck… because prayers might offend.

  3. Plato’s Republic was an intellectual blue print for solving all of society’s problems. He may not have been the first to propose a statist solution, but many have followed in his tracks.

    I’m a moron compared to the historical knowledge that commenters like kolnai and others here display. I do know, however, from traveling to many countries and observing the workings of their societies up close that none have come as close to solving the problems of governance as this country. (Every time I return to the USA from traveling I feel so blessed that my parents lived here. There is no place else, even with all our warts, that comes close.)

    When I visited Russia it was enough to make me weep. It is potentially the richest country in the world, but has been undone by the tyranny of the czars, then the communists, now the oligarchs. The same is true of Argentina. All the ingredients to be a prosperous country and yet they’ve been undone by series of socialist reformers or juntas.

    Conquest is correct about the European Community or the Eurozone being untenable. The elites are trying desperately to hold it together in one big statist blob. How can such disparate cultures as Germany, and Spain/Portugal/Italy/Greece meld their political and financial interests into a harmonious whole? Maybe, if they established a PC education program throughout all the countries and brainwashed everyone into being Germans, it could, over a period of thirty years, possibly work.

    During human history we have been transitioning from tribalism (Chefs or Big Men) to kings/emperors, to more democratic governance, to statist collectivism, to truly representative republican goverenment, but much of the world is still mired in either tribalism (Islam, much of Africa), statist collectivism (China, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Argentina, etc.), or a form of kings/emperors ( Russia, Saudi Arabia, etc.). Only the Anglosphere attempts to preserve democracy of sorts, but even there the forces of statism are trying to drag us back to Plato’s Republic. We are a kind of island of freedom and prosperity that is slowly sinking back into the morass of the intellectual’s desire for grand solutions through statism.

  4. Another political changer (whose political change I only recently learned of): John Dos Passos. Perhaps you can write about him someday, neo.

    Learned of it from half-watching the Hemingway & Gellhorn HBO movie. When the Dos Passos character last appears (a scene in which he appears to vanish into nothingness, as it were– apt, given Gellhorn’s leftwing perspective), Gellhorn in voiceover says something like “his politics moved far to the right.”

    His character is treated sympathetically, however, and at least one reason for his move rightward is suggested by the movie, though not spelled out. As the Wikipedia article puts it, “Dos Passos broke with Hemingway and Herbert Matthews over their cavalier attitude towards the war and their willingness to lend their names to deceptive Stalinist propaganda efforts, including the cover-up of the Soviet responsibility in the murder of José Robles, Dos Passos’s friend and translator of his works into Spanish.”

  5. Re Dos Passos, I wonder if his political change affected his place/ status in the literary canon– e.g. the extent to which his books are studied in university courses on American literature, etc.

  6. “Which is my cue to say I haven’t even gotten to the greatest disappointment in the history of the West and now as much yet another institutional problem as the others … the Christian church. “….

    This Easter [!!!] our minister gave a perfectly Arian sermon. The refrain? that Everyone’s going to heaven, so let us all be joyful! No need for any nasty and unpleasant Judgements, no need to believe in Jesus in particular, or anything else, for that matter.

    On Easter Sunday. I haven’t been back since, but it breaks my heart. I wasn’t brought up in that kind of “church.”

  7. My Southern university (Vanderbilt, in the 1970s) still had Dos Passos on the modern Am. lit. list.

    But the professors were all preaching The Death of The Absolute in Modern Times. Which annoyed me, agnostic though I then was: who the heck decided that the Absolute was dead? a cabal of professors and slick modern writers, apparently.

  8. Footnote: just clicked over to see which JDP books we were assigned: the ones from his communist era, of course. We weren’t told he’d completely changed his mind in later years.

    You gotta hand it to the professoriate — they’re nothing if not predictable.

  9. Heh neo, after my comment it occurred to me that you might’ve written on Dos Passos already. Thanks for the link to your post– fascinating stuff, as always.

  10. When I visited Russia it was enough to make me weep. It is potentially the richest country in the world, but has been undone by the tyranny of the czars, then the communists, now the oligarchs.

    I had exactly the same reaction. The USSR, as it then was, was essentially a Third World country with nuclear weapons and a space program bolted on.

  11. I entirely agree with Paul Johnson’s assessment of this Giant:”Robert Conquest is our greatest living Modern Historian.”

    Conquest’s,”Reflections on a Ravaged Century”(2000 & continuously in print), is an earth’s-axis-moving meditation on the monumental horrors and truth of the 20th Century. A Must Read. I’m looking across the study to my Soviet History shelves and can see,”Kolyma:The Arctic Death Camps”, “The Great Terror” and it’s newer “Reassessment”, “Harvest of Sorrow”, “Stalin:Breaker of Nations”, “V.I.Lenin” and “Inside Stalin’s Secret Police”. Wish I could find a reasonably priced copy of,”The Nation Killers”, but, alas, I cannot.

    Thanks N-Neocon, for the homage to this tremendous scholar. Side note: Kingsley Amis and his son, both, were close friends with Conquest, as was the late Christopher Hitchens. Strange bedfellows, perhaps, but great friends nevertheless.

  12. Occam’s Beard: the saying in the 1970s and 1980s was that the Soviet Union was Upper Volta with missiles.

    I knew some people who had visited Moscow in the 1970s. The reaction to the time in Moscow of someone who was a Cold Warrior- no peace in Vietnam from him- was that the US didn’t have that much to fear from such a poorly run society.

    Two anecdotes regarding contact with Russians. A Russian in the street started talking with them- by their dress it was obvious they were from the West. When they commented on his “brazenness” the Russian replied that while the Organs forbid such behavior, they cannot keep track of everyone all the time.

    Some Russians got invited up to a hotel room to visit. Within a short while, there was a phone call for them. The phone conversation got loud. The Russians left the hotel room, visibly shaken. While the Organs couldn’t keep track of everyone, they kept track of enough.

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