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		<title>By: Neil Jopson</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2012/12/07/we-have-never-recovered-from-world-war-i/#comment-571241</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Jopson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2013 05:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Europe has still not recovered from the Great War, and maybe never will. The current crisis in the Eurozone is directly on the line of consequences from the war: a continent kills the finest of its young men, then twenty years later does it again. As a reaction  people believe that the only way to solve the problem is to have integration, to make wars impossible. Of course this ignores national differences, and imposes a straight jacket on how cultures develop. 

Yet, the most important long term consequence of the Great War is not economic or political, but spiritual: literature and the arts began to change much more dramatically after 1918 than they had done before the war. Political ideologies such as Facism and Communism were given fertile breeding grounds. Speaking from an English perspective, the first generation of men who had a school education joined up in 1914, and they were massacred. Future leaders, artists, journalists, writers, politicians etc were simply wiped out. World War 1 changed not only the way Europe thought about itself, but its ability to even think coherently about itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Europe has still not recovered from the Great War, and maybe never will. The current crisis in the Eurozone is directly on the line of consequences from the war: a continent kills the finest of its young men, then twenty years later does it again. As a reaction  people believe that the only way to solve the problem is to have integration, to make wars impossible. Of course this ignores national differences, and imposes a straight jacket on how cultures develop. </p>
<p>Yet, the most important long term consequence of the Great War is not economic or political, but spiritual: literature and the arts began to change much more dramatically after 1918 than they had done before the war. Political ideologies such as Facism and Communism were given fertile breeding grounds. Speaking from an English perspective, the first generation of men who had a school education joined up in 1914, and they were massacred. Future leaders, artists, journalists, writers, politicians etc were simply wiped out. World War 1 changed not only the way Europe thought about itself, but its ability to even think coherently about itself.</p>
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		<title>By: gs</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2012/12/07/we-have-never-recovered-from-world-war-i/#comment-496138</link>
		<dc:creator>gs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 22:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had thought WW1 ended with the collapse of Soviet Communism, but you&#039;re right. The spiritual damage has never been repaired, and may well be irreparable in the foreseeable future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had thought WW1 ended with the collapse of Soviet Communism, but you&#8217;re right. The spiritual damage has never been repaired, and may well be irreparable in the foreseeable future.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Red</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2012/12/07/we-have-never-recovered-from-world-war-i/#comment-475102</link>
		<dc:creator>Indigo Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[blert, thanks. I&#039;ve never known why my Magyar ancestors left Asia. I knew it had to more than &#039;Go west, young man.&#039; I shall now read up on the Mongols. They&#039;re not the guys on motorcycles, are they?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blert, thanks. I&#8217;ve never known why my Magyar ancestors left Asia. I knew it had to more than &#8216;Go west, young man.&#8217; I shall now read up on the Mongols. They&#8217;re not the guys on motorcycles, are they?</p>
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		<title>By: blert</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2012/12/07/we-have-never-recovered-from-world-war-i/#comment-474985</link>
		<dc:creator>blert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[waltj ...

You said a mouthful.

The same dynamic exists WRT Luftwaffe fighter-defense pilots facing off against the USAAF.

For starters, there were so few survivors.

Next, after all their experiences -- it was a stunner to see un-blooded pilots gunning German aces down all over the homeland. 

Their personal prestige plummeted, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>waltj &#8230;</p>
<p>You said a mouthful.</p>
<p>The same dynamic exists WRT Luftwaffe fighter-defense pilots facing off against the USAAF.</p>
<p>For starters, there were so few survivors.</p>
<p>Next, after all their experiences &#8212; it was a stunner to see un-blooded pilots gunning German aces down all over the homeland. </p>
<p>Their personal prestige plummeted, too.</p>
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		<title>By: JH</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2012/12/07/we-have-never-recovered-from-world-war-i/#comment-474532</link>
		<dc:creator>JH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 07:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is JH at 2:28 pm a bot?

rickl, Well siad for let all knew what sort of person you are...


As of your Baird brain for &lt;i&gt; &quot; detecting a strong whiff of anti-Israel sentiment.&lt;/i&gt; this well known behaviorist by Hasbara, isn&#039;t?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is JH at 2:28 pm a bot?</p>
<p>rickl, Well siad for let all knew what sort of person you are&#8230;</p>
<p>As of your Baird brain for <i> &#8221; detecting a strong whiff of anti-Israel sentiment.</i> this well known behaviorist by Hasbara, isn&#8217;t?</p>
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		<title>By: Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Gravitationally Distortive Object</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2012/12/07/we-have-never-recovered-from-world-war-i/#comment-474499</link>
		<dc:creator>Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Gravitationally Distortive Object</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 05:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;in Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. &lt;/i&gt;

LOL, you can argue them as the makers of the modern age and the most influential people in history.

Not only were they involved in the above, but the corruption in the Church led to the formation of the Protestant movement, the creation of the Church of England, and everything that followed from that in the UK rippling down through history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>in Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. </i></p>
<p>LOL, you can argue them as the makers of the modern age and the most influential people in history.</p>
<p>Not only were they involved in the above, but the corruption in the Church led to the formation of the Protestant movement, the creation of the Church of England, and everything that followed from that in the UK rippling down through history.</p>
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		<title>By: waltj</title>
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		<dc:creator>waltj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 04:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@blert:  You make an interesting point.  Now that I think of it, I don&#039;t recall seeing any works that rely on German sources for their views on what happened during the endgame of WW1.  Mosier used German statistics extensively in his book, and the opinions of Hindenburg/Ludendorff are well-documented, but we don&#039;t seem to have readily-accessible works of lower-ranked officers--say, division or corps commanders--whose units would have borne the brunt of the fighting against the AEF.  Maybe they&#039;re out there, in German and never translated into English, but that&#039;s a minor issue in scholarly circles, where fluency in German is common.  Or maybe the whole experience of getting their supposedly battle hardened butts handed to them, again and again, by the &quot;amateur&quot; Americans so unnerved the German generals that they just didn&#039;t want to talk about it after the war.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@blert:  You make an interesting point.  Now that I think of it, I don&#8217;t recall seeing any works that rely on German sources for their views on what happened during the endgame of WW1.  Mosier used German statistics extensively in his book, and the opinions of Hindenburg/Ludendorff are well-documented, but we don&#8217;t seem to have readily-accessible works of lower-ranked officers&#8211;say, division or corps commanders&#8211;whose units would have borne the brunt of the fighting against the AEF.  Maybe they&#8217;re out there, in German and never translated into English, but that&#8217;s a minor issue in scholarly circles, where fluency in German is common.  Or maybe the whole experience of getting their supposedly battle hardened butts handed to them, again and again, by the &#8220;amateur&#8221; Americans so unnerved the German generals that they just didn&#8217;t want to talk about it after the war.</p>
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		<title>By: Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Gravitationally Distortive Object</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2012/12/07/we-have-never-recovered-from-world-war-i/#comment-474475</link>
		<dc:creator>Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Gravitationally Distortive Object</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 04:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;And without a white-man present&lt;/i&gt;

Liar. &lt;i&gt;Racist&lt;/i&gt;.

Only white men are that eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-vil.

:-9]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>And without a white-man present</i></p>
<p>Liar. <i>Racist</i>.</p>
<p>Only white men are that eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-vil.</p>
<p>:-9</p>
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		<title>By: IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in All 57 States</title>
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		<dc:creator>IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in All 57 States</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 03:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[}}}} &lt;i&gt;Here’s the quote from “The Third Man”, one of Orson Welles best.&lt;/i&gt;

I concur. Welles is well-known for Citizen Kane but, if you ask anyone what else he did, birds chirping is the most common sound that follows. If anyone knows anything, it&#039;s usually The Magnificent Ambersons, which... well, it&#039;s best not mentioned.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The Third Man&quot;&lt;/i&gt;, along with &lt;i&gt;&quot;Touch of Evil&quot;&lt;/i&gt; are two of Welles&#039; movies that every film buff should see.

One of the more interesting things notable about The Third Man is that it calls attention to something that most don&#039;t realize, and that is that, for a long time, &lt;b&gt;Austria was also partitioned by the Allies&lt;/b&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}}} <i>Here’s the quote from “The Third Man”, one of Orson Welles best.</i></p>
<p>I concur. Welles is well-known for Citizen Kane but, if you ask anyone what else he did, birds chirping is the most common sound that follows. If anyone knows anything, it&#8217;s usually The Magnificent Ambersons, which&#8230; well, it&#8217;s best not mentioned.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The Third Man&#8221;</i>, along with <i>&#8220;Touch of Evil&#8221;</i> are two of Welles&#8217; movies that every film buff should see.</p>
<p>One of the more interesting things notable about The Third Man is that it calls attention to something that most don&#8217;t realize, and that is that, for a long time, <b>Austria was also partitioned by the Allies</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: blert</title>
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		<dc:creator>blert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indigo...

World War Zero was the Mongol hyper-expansion.

It almost swept the &#039;world-island.&#039;

It&#039;s expanse, to my mind, is unrivaled until WWII.

It&#039;s the reason the Magyars fled to Hungary and the Turks ended up in Anatolia.

The Mongols established/ re-established the Silk Road -- of which Marco Polo traveled. 

[ The Romans were trading silk with the Chinese centuries earlier. Each knew of each other. IIRC, their trade used the Silk Road, not the ocean. If anyone had realized just how much cheaper and safer it was to sail to and fro -- history would&#039;ve taken a different turn. ]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indigo&#8230;</p>
<p>World War Zero was the Mongol hyper-expansion.</p>
<p>It almost swept the &#8216;world-island.&#8217;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s expanse, to my mind, is unrivaled until WWII.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the reason the Magyars fled to Hungary and the Turks ended up in Anatolia.</p>
<p>The Mongols established/ re-established the Silk Road &#8212; of which Marco Polo traveled. </p>
<p>[ The Romans were trading silk with the Chinese centuries earlier. Each knew of each other. IIRC, their trade used the Silk Road, not the ocean. If anyone had realized just how much cheaper and safer it was to sail to and fro -- history would've taken a different turn. ]</p>
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