December 12th, 2012

Union thugs

I haven’t written about this because others have done a good job of it, and there’s not much more to say. But I’m providing some links and a thread to discuss it, if you’ve a mind to.

I’ll just say that it’s no surprise that these things are happening. The stakes are high, the unions have been calling the shots for a long time, and they know Obama stands behind them and will not even condemn them, so they are emboldened:

At Legal Insurrection.

What Jay Carney has to say.

Jimmy Hoffa the Younger and “civil war.”

The perpetrator of this assault has been identified. It will be interesting to see what, if anything, happens to him.

And here’s a discussion of some of the details of right to work laws and what they actually do.

25 Responses to “Union thugs”

  1. Occam's Beard Says:

    Somebody ask Jimmy Hoffa the Younger to lay a wreath at his Dad’s grave … once he finds it, of course.

  2. Sam L. Says:

    And the lap dog media ignores it. I read the leftie blogs are claiming the righties started it.

  3. Oldflyer Says:

    I ran into Jimmy Hoffa sr one time on a flight to Providence RI. Another young Naval Aviator and I were flying up to pick up a couple of airplanes out of overhaul. We were in uniform and sitting in the lounge section in the rear of a DC-6 (show your age if you remember). This guy with a couple of stooges was sitting in the area. He started in on us about what we did, and how much we made, etc. We didn’t make much and he thought it was funny. Close to insulting. He left at an intermediate stop, and was met by a couple other thuggy looking guys. My buddy asked if I knew who it was; I had no clue. Didn’t care even after I learned. He was truly a jerk in small matters as well as large.

    The Union story is a near classic lesson in human organizations. Given half a chance, they will always become corrupted. The other aspect is that they have a very strong tendency to lose sight of their purpose, and focus almost entirely on preservation of the organization. There was an interesting report this week on the California state budget Nearly every dollar goes to salaries, pensions and medical benefits for employees. Very little left for any other gov’t functions. So, the purpose of the gov’t of California is now maintenance of the gov’t of California.

  4. artfldgr Says:

    becoming corrupted implies they were once clean
    their history and their communist fascist history in particular and the acts they have committed, would suprise and curl the toes of most people who didnt know

    ever wonder why there arent many black owned businesses below 125th street in manhatten?

    it could be the murderous crystal nacht of the longshormens union who rioted taking advantage of the draft riots to gin up the race stuff and get blacks out of their union stuff

    Rioters attacked a black fruit vendor and a nine-year-old boy at the corner of Broadway and Chambers Street before moving to the Colored Orphan Asylum on Fifth Avenue between Forty-Third and Forty-Fourth Streets. By the spring of 1863, the managers had built a home large enough to house over two hundred children. Financially stable and well-stocked with food, clothing, and other provisions, the four-story orphanage at its location on Fifth Avenue and Forty-Second Street was an imposing symbol of white charity toward blacks and black upward mobility. At 4 P.M. on July 13, “the children numbering 233, were quietly seated in their school rooms, playing in the nursery, or reclining on a sick bed in the Hospital when an infuriated mob, consisting of several thousand men, women and children, armed with clubs, brick bats etc. advanced upon the Institution.” The crowd took as much of the bedding, clothing, food, and other transportable articles as they could and set fire to the building. John Decker, chief engineer of the fire department, was on hand, but firefighters were unable to save the building. The destruction took twenty minutes.

    In the meantime, the superintendent and matron of the asylum assembled the children and led them out toForty-Fourth Street. Miraculously, the mob refrained from assaulting the children. But when an Irish observer of the scene called out, “If there is a man among you, with a heart within him come and help these poor children,” the mob “laid hold of him, and appeared ready to tear him to pieces.” The children made their way to the Thirty-Fifth Street Police Station, where they remained for three days and nights before moving to the almshouse on Blackwell’s Island—ironically, the very place from which the orphanage’s founders had hoped to keep black children when they built the asylum almost thirty years earlier.

    there is no mention of what the mob did to the white person that called out. nor what happend to many white people who stood up for what was right.

    Near the docks, tensions that had been brewing since the mid-1850s between white longshoremen and black workers boiled over. As recently as March of 1863, white employers had hired blacks as longshoremen, with whom Irish men refused to work. An Irish mob then attacked two hundred blacks who were working on the docks, while other rioters went into the streets in search of “all the negro porters, cartmen and laborers . . . they could find.” They were routed by the police. But in July 1863, white longshoremen took advantage of the chaos of the Draft Riots to attempt to remove all evidence of a black and interracial social life from area near the docks. White dockworkers attacked and destroyed brothels, dance halls, boarding houses, and tenements that catered to blacks; mobs stripped the clothing off the white owners of these businesses.

    they lynched william jones… and beat Jeremiah Robinson to death, and nearly drowned Charles Jackson

    A group of white men and boys mortally attacked black sailor William Williams—jumping on his chest, plunging a knife into him, smashing his body with stones—while a crowd of men, women, and children watched. None intervened, and when the mob was done with Williams, they cheered, pledging “vengeance on every nigger in New York.” A white laborer, George Glass, rousted black coachman Abraham Franklin from his apartment and dragged him through the streets.


    today, african americans vote FOR unions and democrats and to a T, i have met almost no one who remembers this history of their own city where they grew up and lived for more than a generation!!!

    now they are all under AFL-CIO
    which is the group that worked closely to orchestrate obamas win with other groups

    scan the list and you will find the longshoremans and others

    Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA)
    Amalgamated Transit Union (ATU)
    American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE)
    American Federation of Musicians of the United States and Canada (AFM)
    American Federation of School Administrators (AFSA)
    American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME)
    American Federation of Teachers (AFT)
    American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (AFTRA)
    American Postal Workers Union (APWU)
    American Train Dispatchers Association (ATDA)
    Associated Actors and Artistes of America (4As)
    Actors’ Equity Association (AEA)
    American Guild of Musical Artists (AGMA)
    American Guild of Variety Artists (AGVA)
    The Guild of Italian American Actors (GIAA)
    Screen Actors Guild (SAG)
    Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers’ International Union (BCTGM)
    Brotherhood of Railroad Signalmen (BRS)
    California School Employees Association (CSEA)
    Communications Workers of America (CWA)
    Association of Flight Attendants (AFA-CWA)
    Farm Labor Organizing Committee (FLOC)
    Federation of Professional Athletes (Professional Athletes)
    Glass, Molders, Pottery, Plastics and Allied Workers International Union (GMP)
    International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employes, Moving Picture Technicians, Artists and Allied Crafts of the United States, Its Territories and Canada (IATSE)
    International Association of Bridge, Structural, Ornamental and Reinforcing Iron Workers (Ironworkers)
    International Association of Fire Fighters (IAFF)
    International Association of Heat and Frost Insulators and Allied Workers
    International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM)
    International Brotherhood of Boilermakers, Iron Ship Builders, Blacksmiths, Forgers and Helpers (IBB)
    International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW)
    International Federation of Professional and Technical Engineers (IFPTE)
    International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU)
    International Longshoremen’s Association (ILA)
    International Plate Printers, Die Stampers and Engravers Union of North America
    International Union of Allied Novelty and Production Workers (Novelty and Production Workers)
    International Union of Bricklayers and Allied Craftworkers (BAC)
    International Union of Elevator Constructors (IUEC)
    International Union of Operating Engineers (IUOE)
    International Union of Painters and Allied Trades (IUPAT)
    International Union of Police Associations (IUPA)
    Marine Engineers Beneficial Association (MEBA)
    National Air Traffic Controllers Association (NATCA)
    National Association of Letter Carriers (NALC)
    National Nurses United (NNU)
    National Postal Mail Handlers Union (NPMHU)[43]
    Office and Professional Employees International Union (OPEIU)
    Operative Plasterers’ and Cement Masons’ International Association of the United States and Canada (OPCMIA)
    Seafarers International Union of North America (SIU)
    Sheet Metal Workers International Association (SMWIA)
    Transport Workers Union of America (TWU)
    Transportation Communications International Union/International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (TCU/IAM; will merge by 2012)
    United Association of Journeymen and Apprentices of the Plumbing and Pipe Fitting Industry of the United States and Canada (UA)
    United Automobile, Aerospace and Agricultural Implement Workers of America International Union (UAW)
    United Mine Workers of America (UMWA)
    United Steel, Paper and Forestry, Rubber, Manufacturing, Energy, Allied Industrial and Service Workers International Union (USW)
    United Transportation Union (UTU)
    United Union of Roofers, Waterproofers and Allied Workers (Roofers and Waterproofers)
    Utility Workers Union of America (UWUA)
    Writers Guild of America, East Inc. (WGAE)

  5. Ed Bonderenka Says:

    I have a friend who was at the tent in Lansing.
    I described it on bennett this am.
    Faster than typing.

  6. parker Says:

    Crowder should nix the MMA challenge and press charges. This goon needs jail time.

  7. parker Says:

    I found this link over at Ace:

    Turns out they are not just thugs, they are racist thugs.

  8. expat Says:

    Don’t forget the union intransigence in the Hostess case. The company was not allowed to deliver Wonder Bread and Twinkies in the same truck, and drivers weren’t permitted to unload trucks. Imagine what this idiocy cost the company for deliveries to small rural grocery stores.

  9. kcom Says:

    As I’ve noted other places, the call to civil war has a familiar ring to it. Just as the South’s plantation owners didn’t want to free their slaves because their economic prosperity depended on it, so to the the union bosses are fighting tooth and nail to hang on to their modern day slaves, compelling their labor, for their economic well-being, as union big shots, demands it. They can’t allow workers to be free to choose for themselves. There’s too much to lose for the people at the top.

  10. neo-neocon Says:

    kcom: and too much to lose for Obama and the Democratic Party, to whom the union bosses contribute big bucks with the money they’ve forced workers to give them.

  11. Paul in Boston Says:

    If I had my way I’d defund the unions by forcing them to collect dues directly from their members, none of this automatic withholding. What could be more undemocratic than that? No other private entity has that ability either.

    The unions fear this above all else. Their membership drops by two thirds when people have a choice. My wife works for the state university and would gladly forgo union representation given a choice. All it does is force people into very narrow categories where pay is determined strictly by job title and senority, not by merit.

    Of course, I’d end withholding of all taxes too, including Social Security and Medicare, and make people pay them quarterly in arrears. People should feel the pain and be forced to decide for themselves if they really want all that government.

  12. csimon Says:

    Thugs are thugs are thugs!

    The unions have developed a well-earned reputation for being run by thugs, being made up of thugs, using thuggery to increase their numbers. (Isn’t that creative of them?)

    The bosses are super-thugs, the next tier super-thugs-in-training, and the largest part of membership, the poor schmucks who have their dues automatically taken from their paychecks, mostly ignorant fools who don’t have a clue: where the money goes, what it is used for, and why they don’t know any of this!

    I knew a union member who worked for a huge transport co. when he was told that he and his fellow workers were going to strike because their employer wouldn’t cede to the union demands. So, like good little members, they struck. The members were out of work weeks, then months….no income, no nothing. And what was the union trying to do? Nothing on those strikers’ behalf. They were trying to bully the company to convert part-time workers into full time, so the unions could get into their pockets, too! Not a thing to do with all those members out of work — and not one of them understood that!

    If even one of them had just a clue how much their union bosses took out of those union dues for themselves in the form of salaries, expense accounts and other perks, not to mention political payoffs, (and other payoffs made to questionable orgs.) how many would want out? That is, if they were allowed to.

    It is a mystery to me that we ever reached a point were states actually became union-only states in the first place (corrupt politicians or not) in which those who want to be employed must belong to a union. When were guaranteed right for freedom of choice, among others, dropped from constitution?

    Unions, IMHO, are the epitomy of corruption, cronyism, and intimidation against those who do not agree with their point of view or go along with they want to do.

    Hmmm, no wonder they get along so well with Obama and his cabal.

    The “Card Check” bill, which was promised to the Union Bosses by Obama and the Dems in 2008 as repayment for the hundreds of million of dollars they contributed to the Dems’ campaigns, and their help in “getting out the vote” — no matter how or why or when (talk about Human Rights’ Abuses) is precisely an example of the cronyism quid pro quo deals made between pols and unions (For those unfamiliar with the bill, its main purpose is to do away with secret ballots in votes on whether to unionize or not, thus making those who vote against unionizing easily identifiable to union organizers/members for “lessons” in how being union members will enhance their employment…a.k.a. making non-union voters eaily identifiable targets for retribution — thug-style.
    (The “Card-Check bill” will again be presented in Congress after another big “helping hand” in this last election.)

    I often say about politicians that I do think some enter the fray with good intentions wanting to make things better. There probably are some who enter the unionizng business with good intentions — some, but probably fewer than in politics. Moving up the union ranks is a politics of its own kind, I think, more akin to rising in the mob.

  13. vanderleun Says:

    Where’s our Bob Lee Swagger when we really need him?

  14. rickl Says:

    And of course, public employee unions are completely and purely money-laundering operations for the Democrat Party.

    Government employees are paid by taxpayers, then they pay a portion of their wages as union dues, then the unions give a portion of their dues as campaign contributions, which go almost exclusively to Democrats.

    Therefore taxpayers are forced to support the Democrat Party. Pretty slick.

  15. Charles Says:

    “Union thugs”

    Neo, why did you repeat yourself?

    Sorry, I couldn’t help myself. I’ve never had any use for unions or for their thugish memebrs.

  16. rickl Says:

    I cancelled my cable TV recently, so I don’t watch any TV news. I’ve been reading that conservative blogs are the only outlets that are discussing this. Most of the American people have no idea of what is going on.

    The Left incites and commits violence, and it’s not news. But if anyone on the Right defends himself, you can bet it will be covered, and it will be twisted to the maximum extent possible.

    There’s a new movie coming out, “Django”, which will whip up even more race hatred among blacks. Some of the commenters on this thread warn that white people need to be careful around movie theaters when it comes out, and watch out for packs of angry blacks coming out of the theater. I think they’re right.

  17. parker Says:

    “Some of the commenters on this thread warn that white people need to be careful around movie theaters when it comes out, and watch out for packs of angry blacks coming out of the theater. I think they’re right.”

    Although I have no attention to patronize the movie, in general I am careful and watching out 24/7. That includes when I walk the dogs in my Iowa neighborhood.

  18. M J R Says:

    “And the Republicans are losing to these guys.”

    The Corner
    So, to Sum Up Our Day
    By Jonah Goldberg
    December 12, 2012 5:39 P.M.

    A Democratic senator hired an unpaid intern who was an undocumented immigrant but a documented sex offender. Apparently Senator Menendez needed an immigrant to do sex offending that Americans won’t do.

    Meanwhile, Representative Jim Moran is “embarrassed” by the revelation that his voter-fraud-orchestrating son smashed his girlfriend’s face into a garbage can and pleaded guilty to assault. The girlfriend appears to be doing what she can to make the story go away. But don’t worry, the phrase “war on women” may still only be used to describe people who don’t want to pay for someone else’s birth control. No word if anyone on the left will be expressing their gratitude for the Violence Against Women Act for this.

    Over in Michigan, defenders of the union protestors who tore down an Americans for Prosperity tent are heading toward trutherism, suggesting that it was all a set up, the canvas-and-rope equivalent of the Reichstag fire. No word yet if anyone is claiming the Jews inside the tent got advance notice.

    Oh, and after months — nay years — of rhetoric from the president and his proxies about how taxes are simply a sign of neighborliness and the dues we pay to live in this great country, we learn that Obama’s staff owe nearly a million dollars in back taxes.

    And the Republicans are losing to these guys.

    © National Review Online 2012. All Rights Reserved.

  19. M J R Says:

    “The casual news consumer scans Google News and sees nothing about the unions’ use of violence to attempt to overturn the legislative process. The casual news consumer has been trained to hate alternative media that counters the prevailing culture. The mainstream media didn’t report that Big Labor tried its hand at intimidating Michigan’s elected representatives out of restoring for the state’s workers the freedom of choice and assembly, so to most Americans, it didn’t happen.”

    Assault in Lansing: Leftist Blogs Go Into ‘False Flag’ Mode, Mainstream Media Goes Silent
    by Bryan Preston
    December 12, 2012 – 7:24 am

    [ see above link ]

  20. TR Says:

    Yeah, isn’t it interesting, how lots of Obama + many brainless Obama supporters, drop non-violence + tolerance and peace, whenever it suits them.

    Such as, they have a habit of only reading [the words of a speech], and not the spirit of what was meant behind the speech.

    Such as:

    12/13/2012, yahoo news calls one speech by Romney, in 2012,


    When he was campaigning for Pres., he once said that the Jeep [car company] was moving to China.

    And now…yahoo news + their backstabbing creeps are jumping all over this speech.

    Pardon me for saying this/going out on a limb, but:

    No one cares in America, that Romney messed up his speech on JEEP.

    Or almost no one.

    The “oh no, oh no…let’s get all of our speeches 100% correct”, Dem.-adoring nitwits say:

    “He’s wrong, he’s wrong! Jeep was looking at moving PART of their factories to China”. “He got that wrong!”

    Just my view, but…SO What????

    The point ROMNEY was making was not, [X number of factories will move to China].

    What ROMNEY meant was: it’s better for the U.S. economy to keep U.S. factories in America.

    Meaning, He meant, let’s keep the factories here, and make money + jobs for American workers, and not move the jobs and money out of the country.

    That, I believe, is what Romney meant.

  21. physicsguy Says:

    I was chastised a week or so ago when I said that I thought that the anger was building and that outright violence would escalate. With the WH chirping crickets as their union thugs attack those who disagree with them, it only encourages the radical left to pursue more violent tactics. At some point, those on the right will have had enough, and it WILL explode.

    I predict that explosion will come sometime in the late spring. There will be pre-seismic indicators, such as Michigan. I can detect the signs now as the left (at least in the academic sphere) now sees the election as carte blanche to push their agendas to the maximum. After the inauguration, and the defeat of the RINOs with respect to the fiscal cliff, the call will be a full march “FORWARD”. The push back from the right will not be pretty. Location? probably somewhere in Texas or Oklahoma, and will then spread.

  22. Jim Kearney Says:

    The non arrest of this thug signals the outright lawlessness among those who are supposed to enforce the laws. Arrests should have been made on the scene at the attack on the tent, let alone this thug who is now known. It emboldens all thugs and makes it more likely that we on the right will have to move more forceably if only in self defense.

  23. artfldgr Says:

    you tube
    The Freedom of Evil in America.- Solzhenitsyn

  24. Occam's Beard Says:

    Prosecute union violence as a hate crime.

  25. IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in All 57 States Says:

    THIS really needs to make the main thread.

    Union Thugs Demolish Lansing,Michigan Hot Dog Vendor Clint Tarver’s Equipment, shouting “N*Gger, Uncle Tom”

    Yeah, Republicans and Tea Party types are the racists in America….

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