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Yahoo has become Kafkaesque — 23 Comments

  1. What a great column. This frustration is universal. They call it many things nowadays like, “customer care,” “the curtesy counter,” “the fulfillment center, the help desk.” There is very little help, no one seems to care and wishes are not fulfilled. It is hard enough in person or over the phone and it can be torturous by computer.
    The last line is superb and I wasn’t expecting it. You are a graceful writer in a graceless age. All the best with this problem and thanks for the witty column today as I sit here paying bills.

  2. I have the same frustrations with my decades-old Yahoo mail account. I was forced to go to their new format, which has the right fourth of the screen dedicated to adds. It means I have to scroll left and right to read my emails due to the diminished state.
    My old trashbox Hotmail account, now called “Outlook” is now much nicer than Yahoo. I am thinking of migrating my important stuff there, and keep Yahoo as a spam dump.

  3. kit:

    Glad you liked it. It almost makes all the travail worthwhile.

    Almost :-).

  4. Yeah.
    Norton keeps offering to remember all my passwords. And with my handwriting getting worse, involuntarily, I get lots of suggestions to just bill-pay on line, do online banking, stop with the checks.
    My feeble and likely futile response is “Not no, but Hell no.”
    My Yahoo homepage also features disgusting AP and Reuters “news” stories.

  5. Don Carlos:

    The Yahoo homepage keeps me informed on the propaganda du jour, which is useful to know.

  6. I also have a dreaded Yahoo account and keep ignoring their increasingly insistent demands that I “upgrade” to their New&Improved! software. I have the same problem with my web browser not auto-filling my ID and password. It’s annoying but hey, I now know my password really, really well!

    Doncha just love Yahoo’s bug error messages, stuff like:
    Sorry! You’ve just encountered error #37. Please try again later. If you wish to report this error…” blah, blah, blah

    By reporting some of these errors, I too have found myself lost in Yahoo’s Kafkaesque merry-go-round, though I’ve never gotten to the point where they’ve actually offered me a real phone number. The usual pattern is a boilerplate email from “Ashley” followed by one from “Eric” followed by one from “George” followed by one from “Mike”… At some point the emails just stop or else they declare the problem fixed and thank me for my interest. Of course it’s not fixed and I strongly suspect some (or all) of “Ashley”, “Eric” et al are simply auto-generated replies, not actual people.

  7. Imagine no Yahoo Mail
    I wonder if you can
    No need for autofill or blather
    A email for the world of man
    Imagine all your emails
    Sharied with the NSA…

    You may say I have Gmail
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope someday you’ll join us
    And the autofill will live as one

  8. Hint: Find out the person doing press relations at Yahoo…. mail them the column.

    Maybe Jay Rossiter

    Maybe Kathy Savitt

    Or even

    Yahoo! Inc.
    Media Relations
    Lauren Armstrong, 408-718-6640
    laurena@yahoo-inc.com

  9. Worst Yahoo Mail Bug (Webmail version)

    1) You type 3 or 4 paragraphs into their web editor.
    2) You hit the Send or Save button.
    3) Yahoo mail decides it’s time to verify your identity and dumps you back to the login page.
    4) You enter your ID and password to re-enter Yahoo mail.
    5) Voila! The 3 or 4 paragraphs have disappeared! They are not saved or stored, they are not anywhere. They’re just gone, gone, gone.

    Solution:
    Never trust Yahoo’s web editor. First type your email into an editor on your computer and then PASTE into the editor. If you get caught in the aforementioned trap, you’ve got a copy on your computer that you can use.

    I reported this horrible bug and emphatically requested they fix it. Yahoo never even replied–not from “Ashley” or “Eric” or “George” or anyone.

  10. Don’t forget that “yahoo,” in addition to meaning “yippee,” can also mean a boorish, crass, or stupid person (Webster’s).

    Not sure the founders of the company were unaware of that. A bit of elitist disdain?

  11. Didn’t a woman recently become head of Yahoo? So much for wise Latinas, Whites, Crackers or whatever.

    I’m having more problem switching from Inbox to Spam, to specific folders. Sometimes I just have to sign out and sign in again to get back to my inbox. IOW, it’s a FU’d mess. I get the German news page when I sign out. It starts off with trash videos about fashion mistakes of celebrities, sex tips, etc. Below are links to their real news coverage, which is probably to keep LIVs informed. They do seem to like Obama because there is never any negative coverage of him.

    The best thing I can say about Yahoo is that the Spam filter is pretty good.

  12. expat:

    The spam filter is great. Someone named “Adriana” dominates. She really, really, really wants to talk to me.

  13. Hotmail has actually become easier to use, strangely enough. Then there’s all the “alternate” accounts.

  14. Ymarsakar:

    Adriana gets around.

    I once actually clicked on one of the Adriana emails and read it out of curiosity. It was a sort of masterpiece of the genre. Actually, I should have saved it and written about it, although there’s certainly more where that one came from if I ever should want to.

    It built from a casual “hello, remember me?” beginning to very subtle hints of sex talk and fun to more outright sex talk, and then refers the recipient to several webpages of Adriana’s to see more. It was really really long, and did all of that in a light conversational tone, with a very slow development of the theme.

  15. I need a number that works and where someone answers the phone and talks to me.

    Hahaha. You’re funny, neo.

    How quaint. You must be a dinosaur or something.

  16. Neo,

    I recommend using an email client like Thunderbird. It allows you to store your password, pull mail automatically from your account, and send mail through the same account without ever having to deal with the service’s web interface. Also, it’s available free of charge.

    I use T-bird for several mail accounts will no problem, and nearly all mail servers work with it.

    OTH, you won’t be able to see the sites online ads, but nothing’s perfect.

  17. }}} so that autofill feature was a very handy thing to have when switching back and forth.

    If I may recommend, LastPass is a fairly good setup. You can choose to put as much into it as you want (I don’t put bank logins into it, for example) but for most day-to-day passwords I use it — especially those endless throwaway accounts you get when you click on a link, want to add some comment there, and have to “sign up” to comment.

  18. I have Gmail. I agree that it is awkward and counter intutive, especially for someone using MS outlook all day. Must be a better alternative. Maybe I will try Hotmail

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