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  1. Cautionary tale – for the women: Enjoy your youth, your hotness and your feminism while you can. Because the screw turns and Alpha Males will toss you under the bus at the first sign of the blush disappearing off the rose. And ladies, just think, you created all this. Nice work.

  2. Paul A’Barge:

    Ladies created it? Of course, no man ever divorced an older woman and went for a younger one prior to the advent of feminism.

    Demonize women all you want, but the problems involved in the dance between men and women are due to many more things than that, I’m afraid. And what happens with famous and/or powerful men (and famous and/or powerful women as well, although to a lesser extent) goes with the territory.

    The breakdown of the family and the institution of marriage, some of which has been furthered by feminism and also by leftism as a whole (the decline of religion, the influence of the MSM and Hollywood and modernism in general), is definitely part of the story. But the story transcends that and predates it.

    And yes, the cautionary tale is for both people, including the man. I doubt that true joy comes from serially exchanging spouses for a younger model whom you then come to hate and wish to leave, and by bringing pain to your children’s lives as well as part of the process—although no doubt there are some fun times along the way.

  3. Well, the General has been a Jew (on his father’s side), a Methodist of sorts, a Baptist of a kind, and, it seems, sham Catholic (stopped attending Mass because he didn’t like the homilies). He’s had a wife, a mistress, and now a trophy. Fickle? Wonder how he was at esprit de corps.

  4. Men like Clark are pathetic fools. What can a 68 year old have in common with a 30 year old? Sex is great, but there is more to a relationship that lust. The lady and I will be celebrating 43 years this Saturday. Those years have gone by in a flash.

  5. I’m not seeing the catch, Neo. Once a man has divorced even once, might as well trade in for a newer model as it suits. And the older you get, probably, the quicker the turnover, for various reasons. Even if Murchoch loses half is wealth… urhm… so?

    Really? It’s ideal for a rich man. Myself? I would probably have a harem of breeders somewhere, isolated from laws and such, where I amoral/immoral and that wealthy. Wives, these days, are dime a dozen and come and go, but progeny is forever. Even if they end up hating me, they will go on to live aspects of life I couldn’t attain in one lifetime. Even for me that has been impressive, but there is so much more.

    Oh… sorry to be blathering. Must be closing on nap time.

  6. Shame on him.

    It’s stuff like this that makes the old European (mostly French?) way of keeping a mistress seem pretty wise.

  7. Doom:

    I described the “catch” in a previous comment, but I’ll repeat it here in case you didn’t see it above:

    And yes, the cautionary tale is for both people, including the man. I doubt that true joy comes from serially exchanging spouses for a younger model whom you then come to hate and wish to leave, and by bringing pain to your children’s lives as well as part of the process–although no doubt there are some fun times along the way.

    Murdoch has two daughters with Deng. One is ten years old and one eleven.

    In addition—although I suspect there is already another woman waiting in the wings, since that is Murdoch’s m.o.—such a woman has not been identified or named. At 82 he may be flying solo. Perhaps not, of course. It remains to be seen.

  8. It might not mean much at this point, but Clark was not a very popular general officer when he served on active duty – people called him Weasely Clark. He was a very political general – of that sort who bullies subordinates and licks the boots of superiors.

  9. The cautionary tale is something like: If he did it once, he can do it again. Reverse the sexes as appropriate.

  10. There’s an old saying “there’s no fool like an old fool”. Shades of Anna Nicole Smith and J. Howard Marshal.

  11. Clark has always impressed me as a phony.

    As for Murdoch, any 68 yr old man who has children has, through his own actions, declared his unfitness as a parent. At 68 there simply is no basis for assuming you will be there for your children and if you can’t place your children’s welfare first, you have no business procreating.

    EGO.

  12. How come none of this went out to the public when Clark was running for whatever office I seem to remember he was running.

  13. You got Rupert Murdoch’s third wife’s name slightly wrong. It’s actually Wendi…Dang!

  14. And Wes Clark is an idiot, as I can say as someone who crossed his path at a little distance while on active duty.

  15. What does this mean for Wesley Clark? I think the question is what does this mean for Shauna Mei. The answer may be: live by hypergamy, die by hypergamy.

  16. The essence of Shauna, as explained on her business’s website:

    Her mission stems from her belief in carefully curating a lifestyle of conscious consumption and living life to the fullest. She exemplifies the AHA lifestyle in a multitude of ways, through her love of travel to culture-filled lands, from Catalonia to Inner Mongolia to Romania; by sharing food and drink with friends, especially caviar, Champagne and watermelon (in no particular order); by celebrating life with an epic dance party; and in always remaining curious about the objects and ideas that surround us.

    Wonder if Wesley is part of that careful curating? Or could he be, oops, a big mistake? It will be interesting to see if the romance lasts if her business begins to suffer because of all the bad press she’s getting.

  17. He is a fool. There is a comfort gained from growing old with one you know, trust, and love. And youth, beauty, and sex is a poor replacement.

    After all of these years one of my greatest pleasures is looking into my wife’s face first thing each morning.

  18. Of course no one knows what goes on inside a marriage except the two people in it, but I find myself wondering how many times the soon to be former Mrs. Clark packed up her family and moved for the sake of his military career. Quite a few sacrifices, I am guessing.

  19. With only one child, Clarke may well intend on extending his family.

    Such an impulse is not run through one’s logical brain.

    As for the gal, Clarke has a VERY high IQ — and alpha connections to match.

    It was lust at first sight — for HER.

  20. Even they don’t know!

    A prescription is available when the patient doesn’t know. Doctor knows best. And who is Doctor in this instance?

    Thousands of years of tradition.

  21. What has countermanded thousands of years of tradititon?

    Political Science.

    In other words, a once only peculiar to the time and factual circumstances produced a mind set which was non-responsive to the survival instinct.

    Even Darwin would be aghast.

    Will Science save us?

    Of course not. Science is the ball hit by the flippers in the pinball machine. We decide what
    science is and what we decide is influenced by more than science so how can science be determinative of our future?

    Huh?

    Is that clear enough for you tBut? Expand your mind beyond materialism. Do it and don’t be afraid. The result is much better than fear and shutting down, which can never, ever, work.

  22. Vrf fe guff

    oh excuse, I’ll shift to English.

    Your choices have meaning. This most obvious fact has been obscured by Marxism and Darwinism which state that your choices are programmed and, therefore, have no meaning.

    The obvious fact that your choices result in your circumstances is not challenged. How could it be. The challenge is that your choices are not your choices but the choices or others.

    Is that true? Do you believe that? How many times have you struggled over a choice? The struggle is evidence that choice is not predetermined or necessarily a result of economic/social circumstances.

  23. I’m under now.
    The past portent.
    The facts I show
    are No defense.

    Praxis; penal
    criminology
    lawful showing
    intent, should be.

    Get back. In side
    of the complaint
    everyman walks
    the showered lengths.

  24. At the link:

    “Clark met the young paramour Mei earlier this year in Carlsbad, Calif., when they attended a symposium organized by Deepak Chopra.”

    Sixpack Chopra is the oiliest huckster out there. It fits that this asshat of a general would find a broad to shack up with at one of his events.

    Here’s Weaselly Clark on that insufferable prig John Kerry:

    “Clark states that John Kerry is fit to be commander because he served in the Vietnam war. ‘John Kerry has heard the thump of enemy mortars. He’s seen the flash of the tracers. He’s lived the values of service and sacrifice. In the Navy, as a prosecutor, as a senator, he proved his physical courage under fire. And he’s proved his moral courage too.

    John Kerry fought a war, and I respect him for that. And he came home to fight a peace. And I respect him for that, too.

    John Kerry’s combination of physical courage and moral values is my definition of what we need as Americans in our commander in chief.”

    ‘Nuff said? I hope the esso bee is miserable in his new liaison. And I hope his wife finds a real Man for herself.

  25. I doubt that true joy comes from serially exchanging spouses for a younger model whom you then come to hate and wish to leave

    We’d like to think that. In truth he may be as happy as a sandboy for all we know. Some people are just unbothered by the chaos they cause in other’s lives…

  26. Clark worked hard to deserve his name of Weasel, a political general if ever there was one. I particularly remember seeing a field exercise when the press showed up to cover it. Clark arrived on horseback. All fluff, no substance, & every fiber of his being is dedicated to self-promotion.

    Beyond that, remember that there are always people who would seriously consider him as a presidential contender, & continue to put him on television as a professional pundit.

  27. A society created on the basis of redistributing power from the weak to the strong, will inherently behave differently than a society based upon the concept of “without love, it cannot be seen nor exist”.

    When it is a matter of unequal power, marriages and alliances cannot be based upon mutual interest. There is no mutual interest between a slave and his owner, except based on personal emotion and relationships. Without love, it cannot be seen.

    Individuals will eventually choose their goal in life: love and mutual alliances, or power and unequal balances.

  28. There are many different kinds of power. In this context, I speak of the power to dominate the wills of other humans. Much akin to Henry 8th syndrome.

  29. I’d say a 68-year-old who has kids with a healthy younger woman has shown his fitness in a very direct and irrefutable way.

  30. Beverly,

    They met at a Deepak Chopra symposium?! Really?!
    That tells me all I need to know about the happy couple. They probably deserve each other.

    As an aside, I was once watching one of those real estate shopping shows on HGTV and the featured family was none other than the very well-to-do Chopras. They were looking for a vacation home in Hawaii or some other exotic locale and spiritual guru Deepak kept going on and on about the importance of granite countertops.

    Nice work if you can get it, as the saying goes.

  31. What’s climate change got to do with it? Let’s ask Montesquieu: Book XVI. — How the Laws of Domestic Slavery Bear a Relation to the Nature of the Climate

    (Mind, I’m laughing at it just as fully as Montesquieu himself, so note the tongue in cheek)

  32. Re the quote from Shauna’s web site: I don’t know about y’all but I find that bone-chilling.

    I was too busy to participate in the discussion a day or two ago about political changing, but one of the factors for me was a determination to consider what is actually the case in socio-political matters rather than what my general view of life makes me want it to be. As a young man in the ’70s, I tended to feel (not really think) that there was something to the feminist assertion that women are basically more decent than men. If you just focus on things like physical violence, that might seem plausible. But over the years I recognized that women are susceptible to every mean nasty fault that afflicts men. They just express it differently. And gold-digging, the cold effort to snare a male who has money and/or power, is one of those expressions. Anybody want to bet that Shauna would have found true love with Wes if he’d been a low-level corporate manager?

  33. Well, as the left seems to accept (if not like, and they may) him, he will attract less opprobrium from them.

  34. I cannot say that I have a lot of warm fuzzies about what Wesley Clark has done. In the late 1960s, a lot of marriages of the parents of my friends and peers broke up- after several decades of marriage. In most cases, the husband left the wife for a younger woman. It reminded me of Donovan’s song Season of the Witch.

    I am also reminded of what happened not long after to a friend of my aunt and uncle. Her husband of some 30 years left her for a coed. Guess what? Within ten years span, the coed left him. He called his ex-wife, crying on her shoulder, as it were. Reaping what you sow, heist on your own petard…

  35. billm99uk:

    Note that I used the word “joy” (and in fact, “true joy”) rather than the word “happiness” or “happy.” I did that for a reason. They are different (although sometimes somewhat allied) emotions. I have little doubt that Clark is quite happy now, but that’s not what I’m talking about.

    Also, don’t ignore this part of the equation, which I also said [emphasis added], “younger model whom you then come to hate and wish to leave, and by bringing pain to your children’s lives as well…”

  36. “An old fool and his money are soon parted.”
    And those men are very old and foolish. If they did not have mega bucks, no woman would look at them.

    I hope the lovely first wives have the last laugh. Something tells me they will.

    And a very Happy 43rd wedding anniversary to Parker and his lovely wife. That is how it should be done.

  37. Old guys with money and power. Multiple young attractive women. Not exactly a new trend in human evolution.
    The trend is probably not new for either of those men, except for the part about getting married to their current distractions.

  38. I do not find the “first” wives shown at all attractive. They just look older, used-up, postmenopausal and all out of estrogen, weary and tired of pretense, which is to be expected, IMO, if one has spent decades married to Weasel or Rupert.

  39. Don Carlos:

    If they look older it is because they are older. Wesley Clark married Gertrude in 1966; they had met at a West Point dance. I can’t find Gertrude’s date of birth, but by my calculations she must be close to Clark’s age, which is 68. Those photos I posted didn’t have dates so I can’t give her exact age in them, but they are relatively recent and she must be well into her 60s. She looks fabulous for a woman of that age, and does not seem to have had cosmetic surgery either.

    Murdoch’s wife Anna looks even better, but then she’s younger. To me she looks lovely and not old at all (except compared to a twenty- or thirty-year-old); I have no idea what you’re talking about. Murdoch, on the other hand, looks dreadful, not particularly good even for an 82-year-old man, but we’re not talking about his looks, are we? It’s not looks that the women are interested in. Whereas Clark looks very good; he’s always been a good-looking guy.

    Murdoch and Anna were divorced around 1998, so although I can’t find a birth date for Anna, either, I believe she was around 50 at the time (extrapolating from knowledge of the general age difference between Anna and Murdoch). She looks excellent for around 50 in the photos I’ve seen of her with Murdoch. Here’s another one that’s undated but probably from around the same time, of Anna and Rupert and the kids.

    And here’s one of Anna more recently. She’s in her early 60s here. In her mid-50s here.

    I see nothing like what you’re describing.

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