I’m no hunter, but…
…this certainly doesn’t sound like “hunting” to me:
The gunman who slaughtered 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard stalked his victims as if he was “hunting” them, officials said Thursday as they painted a chilling portrait of how the carnage unfolded.
FBI Director James Comey told reporters that former Navy sailor Aaron Alexis had roamed the offices and corridors of the Navy Yard’s 197 building, blasting victims at random with a sawed-off shotgun before being shot dead…
He emerged from the bathroom a few minutes after 8:00 am with the shotgun and almost immediately started to shoot folks on the fourth floor in a way with no discernible pattern,” Comey told reporters.
“It appears to me that he was wandering the hall like hunting people to shoot.”
Like John Kerry looking for a civilian to kill in Vietnam.
Well, they can’t paint him as a crazy, white NRA/Tea Party member so they’re going to paint him as a hunter instead.
Don’t ever try to understand the actions of the insane.
Why?
The effort will drive YOU crazy.
That was not hunting.
Hunting involves lots of “waiting for the prey” to come to you.
If you go looking for it, you scare it off.
Ask a deer hunter about “blinds & stands”.
All part of the narrative to ban guns by making law-abiding people who use their guns to hunt seem more sinister.
Remember, the narrative was that George Zimmerman “hunted” Saint Skittles. Now the narrative in this shooting (since the evil of The Gun is the only angle worth pursuing by the Left) is that the guy “hunted” his victims.
Biden is the one you want to worry about hunting humans with his shotgun.
The Left’s recommendation for rape victim defense is to puke all over themselves, then spread their legs and submit if that doesn’t work.
The Leftist alliance is…. something.
Humans that can kill other humans at close range are classically known as sociopaths or murderers, monsters beyond the protection of society or the tribe. The human instinct and social limitation on killing is so strong that US soldiers have chosen to die or be raped than to fire their weapons, in the past. Recent modern advances from Vietnam has fixed that, though not entirely. Women who are armed on base, are still raped by fellows and they don’t fire. The inhibition is extremely strong, the shock of being attacked by your “ally” is very strong.
The Left uses the same shock tactics, the same atrocity archives to fulfill their goals.
What the US military did for Vietnam veterans was enable them to have a 90-95% fire rate. The rate for WWI, WWII, and the US Civil War was under 20%. Less than 1 out of every 5 person on the line, fired their weapon. Out of those that did fire, an unknown number did so to miss intentionally.
When Vietnam veterans returned from the war, having sacrificed their lives and often times their soul, to do the country’s politics, they were called baby killers and murderers by pro communist and pro Vietcong death squad supporters.
To normal humans, it is easy to consider someone who can kill so easily and efficient, a monster that deserves no social support or approval.
That’s why Normal Humans and Society should go to hell, where they belong. They make me sick. Killing rapists and serial killers doesn’t particularly bother me ethically or morally, but “human self righteous pigs” do. The more they speak out their mouth, the less human they become in my eyes.
The more they talk about whatever Leftist strategy they have, the more inhumane I see them as.
Because Democrats outsource their killing to others, like black death squads or terrorists in Libya, doesn’t make them any morally or ethically better than the humans who did duty defending country, family, and comrades in Vietnam. It’s much easier, psychologically speaking, to kill from a distance. It’s easier for a human to rationalize it as killing a machine or target, or inanimate “Other”. Let’s Kill Bush, they said. Let’s Kill Bin Laden. The only people that are going to pull the triggers, though, are the ones at the fore front, not the freaks back at home.
Drugs, conditioning, and various other methods can remove or temporarily lower a human’s natural resistance against close up killing, where they can see the eyeballs and faces of the people they exterminate. That’s one point in favor of the Democrat kickback based medical industry.
I heard that only 2-3% of humans are natural born stone cold killers, psychopaths or sociopaths with no conscience or just no remorse in killing other humans. For the super majority of humans, it’s not such a comfortable thing.
If you got a mad dog at the Yard, put him down if he becomes a danger to humanity. It’s very simple, but costly on the consciences of those who pull the trigger, saw off the head, or destroy the body’s function using bare hands. Results matter, so just get it done.
But my overall concept and point is that I won’t forget that there are even worse monsters in America… right at the top of our leadership who are immune and suffer no psychological guilt whatsoever in “outsourcing” their killing and rapine and looting.
Hey, those stupid remarks only came from the FBI Director. Don’t worry. The Nation’s in the very best of hands. Baraq is a big hands-on guy, after all, especially with his golf clubs.
I never thought of it before: golf ‘clubs’. He likes clubbing things. He should get on the ice and club baby seals. Born for it, he was.
I haven’t seen too much factual follow-up, but this makes it appear that most of the victims were gunned down with the shotgun. If that is so, then this atrocity is even more inexplicable than first thought. The shotgun would hold at most 6 rounds; reloading a shotgun is not an instantaneous exercise, it takes time to reload a shotgun. So, an armed response team might have stopped the carnage early on. We know that one SWAT team was called off; and we know that there were Marines with accessible weapons (but no ammunition available.) near by, so the elapsed time for the killing is certainly a valid question.
I may be reading more than is there, since there are also reports that he had obtained two semi-automatic pistols from victims.
There are a lot of questions to be answered.
Well, maybe I missed the point, since I commented after reading the excerpt and before reading the complete article. It is not very clear how many were killed with each weapon; nor is it clear whether he reloaded the shotgun, or simply expended the one load.
Still, it does seem clear that there was some time for a coordinated response; if one had been available.
I also should note that apparently one or two armed security persons did respond heroically, and futilely.
My question is: why no metal detector? We have them at a lot of schools, after all; why not here?
It is so painfully obvious. The Government, including the military, is in the very best of hands. You want metal detectors? Go to any airport.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MobkSIllhNM
This is a good case example for why I despise “humans”.
We have a bunch of people commenting on the internet when they see a video of a person who dies of asphyxiation. As in, no air.
the lawyer is correct—he got his butt beat and is dead….for resisting and trying to eat his stash…sad, but no pity for him or his lawyer…hes just trying to get some money anyways…-C1
23 ups
ha ha that’s what he gets!!!-C2
So if you got drugs or you resist the police, and you’re no longer human. You can be killed as easily as the police stomps on an ant hill.
You know what I felt when I saw that video? Pity. Compassion. I felt sorry that someone who was non violent, who was scared of the police, who didn’t try to kill the officer, was killed just because he was stopped and they wanted to search his body without a warrant. The police gets to escalate the physical confrontation by Putting Their Hands On You, at a range where it has been clearly proven that humans can kill you before you can draw your sidearm, no matter whether they got a gun or not. The police should not even be within 21 feet of a suspect on a road. This is considered legitimate. The human that died, is considered a sub human, like a Jew or untermenschen, he got what he deserved.
Yet death and lethal force was delivered to a person that didn’t have hostility and was no threat to me and no threat to the person on field. Only a threat because of force escalation.
And the society at large supports the police’s “procedures”, celebrates the death of “druggies”, and everybody is fine.
The cop gets to diffuse his guilt amongst his fellows and with the claim that “he was just following procedure”. Although if that is procedure, it’s pretty suicidal for cops to do in a pull over. Resistance=you deserve to be killed. The cops believe this. Drugs=you not human. Cops believe this. Civilians support it.
And they call themselves humans? They really consider themselves a human just like I am?
You have got to be Fing me.
If this is society’s “justice”, society in LA needs to die. Right now. And it will. Atrocities and violence breeds counter revenge and violence. As sure as the sun comes up after night, believe it. If you don’t believe, you don’t need to. The Left will demonstrate it sooner or later.
The people in society, bred on Hollywood violence, think killing people and offing them is a game.
It’s easy for them to think so because they have been conditioned for this by the Left’s various psychological warfare ops.
Are you white? Then you deserve to be tortured and raped by Black Power, because you and your ancestors tortured and raped my black ancestor slaves…. whether I had black ancestors or not. That’s basically the logick. And for those well conditioned, it’s enough. Most will still refrain, but like terrorism, they won’t speak out against it. They support it passively.
You a Republican? Then you deserve to be audited, IRSed, bankrupted, and your children harassed and their locations given to Democrat child molestors…
Because you a Republican Tea Party Vote Suppressor. That’s their logick. The Democrats at the top can say “well, we aren’t responsible for this, this is just some crazies who killed you guys cause of a video, what difference does it make what you are killed by”
Oh it makes a difference all right. People who got bombed and incinerated in Dresden suffered much less PTSD issues than those who survived Holocaust concentration camps. Knowing that sociopaths and sadists hate you personally and refuse to recognize you as a human, hurts. Even if you believe they are wrong. It’s easier to think the bombs and fire were just natural disasters or unlucky occurrences, that the allies weren’t personally trying to kill every man, woman, and child in Dresden. It allows victims to cope, to rationalize away the stress.
Even for highly conditioned soldiers, killing up close and personal is much harder. Much harder than drone killings, much harder than operating a crew served weapon like a naval ship. The psychological guilt and fatigue is huge.
That’s why Americans can laugh at people dying and enjoy it. It’s just like a movie to them. It’s fantasy. They have never had to produce the intent required to kill using bare hands or a knife, or even a gun.
It’s a game to them.
But for the people who got killed by it, it’s no game.
What people in the US don’t seem to understand or want to accept is that if you allow the Left to continue its crimes against humanity, its atrocities, its corruption of the human soul and spirit, there will be a counter backlash, a blowback of epic proportions.
While atrocity, violence, and sadistic killings and terrorization of your enemies may be effective in destroying their humanity and will to resist, it also destroys your own humanity. Which means to the rest of us, you are no longer a human.
Guess what that means, my dear Leftists.
Neo, after reading your post, I made the same comment to my wife about metal detectors. How many buildings do you find them in now? I know, from experience, that you do not enter the Capitol Building, or the Congressional Office buildings (where the ruling class hang out) without going through metal detectors, with your hand carried bags searched and a few armed Capitol police in evidence. Then again, there are enough Secret Service, uniformed and plain clothes, at the White House to ward off an invasion by a smallish army.
Some lives are just worth more than others in this great Republic. Although some may argue that there are none in DC that are irreplaceable; I would never suggest anything like that.
But, back to basic security measures; you don’t even go to a college football game these days without a cursory search of bags.
BTW, I have spoken in the past of being in a support role for the visit of Prince Charles and “The Princess” to Brazil back in the ’90s. Security was very unobtrusive; although I am sure it was present in adequate numbers.
The described actions mate perfectly with the old Terminator movie — when the Terminator cuts loose at the police station.
Duh!
My question is: why no metal detector? We have them at a lot of schools, after all; why not here?
you give people clearances to see special things and work, and you then don’t trust them and scan them… what would that do to the rate of people who would resent and so break clearance and talk?
the larger question is why do we run our military like soviet military where the system is afraid of its own people, and so is very very careful with everything that can be a weapon. when in the past, not long ago, we were not like that and our personnel carried sidearms.
police who are also trained, carry sidearms when not working and do so among untrained civilians of all ages. and we don’t trust trained people with clearances with weapons around trained people with clearances?
why are our bases disarmed all the time as a natural state of being?
you want to know how long Alexis or Hassan would have lasted if they had sidearms as in the past?
a lot shorter than Alexis lived…
Flashback: US Military Bases are ‘Gun Free Zones’ Because Democrats Decreed Them To Be
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/09/16/flashback-us-military-bases-are-gun-free-zones-because-democrats-decreed-them-to-be/
these people, regardless of their belief or purpose, are always tuning things up to some method that makes whatever it is, dysfunctional and ineffective, and ignorant of real world principals as its busy practicing things that don’t work in the real world except when things are nice and we have the luxury of pretending and ignoring.
their improvements are always in some patina of being better because , and then put it in place pretending that all the reasons and things were cultural and so its those who think they have no culture, thinking these others have racist (culture they love) reasons for not wanting these things or opposing them. they never ever can accept that real reasons they don’t like are acceptable or even real reasons.
they believe in magic and have magical thinking
however, their form of it is sophisticated and so, seems like some erudition and pretends to be the output of thought. sadly though, scratch deeper, and all that glitters and makes them ooh and ah is not gold, and they do not know the principals from which thye made a principled decision they just claimed to make.
Alas, the situation on military bases has bipartisan origins. The Army regulations cited in the pjmedia link was issued to implement a DoD Directive issued under GHW Bush — and not repealed by GW Bush nor BH Obama. I was living off-base then, and retired soon after they came out.
Blame both.
Artfldgr:
Actually, there are many non-military personnel on that naval base, and metal detectors would have arguably helped to protect the military people there from a gun carried by a civilian (such as Alexis, whom I believe would be considered a civilian).
And I don’t see why we should assume that all the civilians on the base (the people who work in the cafeteria, for example) have clearances to see special things.
I also read in an article about the shooting (can’t remember exactly which article at the moment) that most of the people Alexis killed at the base in this incident were civilians.
In addition, that article you link (the one from PJ) is not telling the whole story of the history of this push to make bases gun-free zones. I already wrote about the history of that here. Clinton’s order in 1993 had something to do with it, to be sure (and I have little doubt that Democrats are far more invested in implementing this policy than Republicans are). But Clinton did not start the policy; he merely tweaked it and make it somewhat more restrictive. Take a look at the comments to that post I linked for more information, as well.
Blame both.
Why would I blame both for doing things in different space times?
Was Bush’s bases being attacked by his allies?
What was rational in the past, is not rational now. The fault is always with the Left. There is no excuse worth listening to on this matter.
If a President loses a base, a state, or a capital, that should apply to the one in power. Any losses in 2012 doesn’t apply to Bush, Clinton, or Bush II.
It just applies to the Left, because of their allies in the Islamic jihad.
If Clinton supports the Left, that’s his own additional mitigating factor. His problems were Mog and trying to get more Americans killed for political benefit.
The idea that current Presidents and regimes don’t over turn previous policy is not really why we change Presidents a lot. Thus there’s no purpose in finding people in the past to blame when you have plenty to blame in power right now, like SecStates.