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  1. In earlier threads commenter Eric has made the point that right-of-center proponents should acclimate to using Marxist tactics (i.e., Alinsky) against the left. This catalyzed a lively discussion with several individuals. Perhaps Rand Paul attempting to beard the lion in its own den at Berkeley is a good start. Instapundit also refers to the latest essay by Roger Simon which includes:

    [on Rand Paul]
    They were ready to applaud at Berkeley.
    [snip]
    . . . [Republicans] just sit around getting annoyed when the Democrats call them racists. Play offense, not defense.

    http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2014/03/19/rand-paul-sleeping-with-the-enemy-at-berkeley/

    Instapundit remarks:

    Indeed. Especially as the Dems have lots of experience on offense, not so much on defense.

    Sounds like they’ve both been reading the comments here.

  2. I tend to agree with Jay Nordlinger’s take over at National Review about what happened at Berkeley — Lessons in Standing Ovations:

    Years ago, I attended a left-of-center conference. There were two or three of us token conservatives there. One person used his time to tell the audience that their civil liberties were under assault, because of cameras at stoplights, or something.

    I remembered this when reading about Rand Paul yesterday – how he got a standing ovation from the kids at Berkeley by telling them that the guvmint was spyin’ on ’em.

    Great, great. I would have been more impressed if he had gone in there and said something about abortion.

  3. With regards to Obama having a strategy, goto the link, and scroll down to Walid Phares. It is a 20 minute video on Obama’s strategy in the mid-east and with regards to Iran. Phares thinks Iran will come out as the regional Hegemon.

    Endowment for Middle East Truth:
    http://emetonline.org/index.php?/emet_tv#

  4. “Phares thinks Iran will come out as the regional Hegemon.

    I don’t think that supposition is particularly astute. From my distant vantage point it looks like the common expectation.

  5. Ann Says:
    March 20th, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    Great, great. I would have been more impressed if he had gone in there and said something about abortion.

    No. Paul did it right. He picked an issue that he knew the majority of his listeners would agree with him on.

    That’s how you build a majority. Talk about things like lowering taxes, rooting out waste, fighting corruption, reducing regulation that costs jobs and drives businesses away, and upholding the Constitution. Use specifics instead of mere platitudes, of course.

    Most voters will agree on things like that. Who is in favor of wasteful spending, or violating the Constitution?

    But other issues, like abortion, gay marriage, etc. are hot-button issues for many people on both sides of the question. No matter what your position, you are guaranteed to alienate a portion of your listeners if you talk about them. Those people will never vote for you even if they agree with you on everything else.

    And the federal government is not supposed to be involved with them, anyway.

  6. rickl: agree completely. It’s hard to argue you are not the party in people’s bedrooms when you want to control the outcome of what happens in bedrooms. Most normal people agree no one should be aborting an almost full term baby, yet somehow the Democrats win on this issue.

  7. Sort of OT but related:

    Jack Kemp (like Rush Limbaugh) was not scared of expressing his beliefs to black people. He did not regard them as fragile children.

    His ego got the better of him when he was complimented during a debate for not being a nasty racist like every other Republican and he glowed in response, as opposed to saying something like “there you go again.”

    But he was not scared or ashamed to tell black people what he actually thought.

    Leftists are totally comfortable with their condescension toward black people, being blighted by epistemic closure on the issue. Leftists no more engage black people as people than do non-Leftists, but Leftists are satisfied with saying what they regard as the right things to say.

    Just to get anecdotal, for what it is worth (not much except to me): I have known many Leftists because of where I have been and who I have known. As a group I have found them far more vicious, visceral haters of black people than among non-Leftists I have known. Percentage-wise, not a lot in either group, but far more among Leftists.

    That does not include the totally clueless Leftists who do not see how absurd their patronizing attitude is, although they are pretty bad in their own way.

    Two things are amazing and astonishing to me.

    The first is that non-Leftists who care about our culture do not day in and day out talk about the actual history of the Democrat party, a history of racial hate mongering which has never ceased.

    The second is the the bizarre failure of non-Leftist politicians to engage black people, recognizing the separate cultural consciousness for what it is, but also understanding the future of our America depends on it.

  8. I’m sorry-since when is getting applause from drugged-out hippies at Communist Central something to brag about?
    Pandering to licentiousness and indulgence (while self-righteously calling it “freedom”) isn’t what I’d call a solid platform.

  9. rickl,

    Absolutely agree. You build on things you have in common with the mushy middle, “liberals”, and even, at times, leftists. That’s how you counter otherization by the MSM.

  10. Glenn Beck has been saying that as long as I’ve been listening to him. We need to concentrate on the issues we agree on, not the issues that divide us. I think he was saying that even before the Tea Party appeared on the scene.

  11. Michael: if someone wants to help get the government out of my life, their personal foibles are not my concern. Live free or die.
    Rand had an audience of 400. Those were probably the sane people on campus.

  12. The audience for the Paul talk didn’t consist of what Michael up-thread called “drugged-out hippies at Communist Central.” Paul gave the talk at the Berkeley Forum, which is a two-year-old student group. Take a look at its website. I think it’s probably a rather conservative or maybe libertarian bunch of students.

    So, he got some press for going up against Berkeley, but I don’t think it was Berkeley-Berkeley. Meaning not an indication of his appeal for young folks on the left.

  13. Rand Paul did this at Howard University. I saw it on CSPAN, and his performance was impressive. I had no doubt he could do it at Berkeley, too.

    I’ve said before that there are arguments that can be made to reach Dem constituents and peel them off. Establishment Rs have made that point, but only Rand is taking it seriously.

    This example is why Rand is a serious contender for 2016.

  14. The average democrat supporter can only give lip service to right to privacy these days. They’ve basically made a deal with the devil to accept massive surveillance in a trade off for nanny state freebies.

  15. They used to call this taking the initiative in war or battle.

    But I don’t suppose the military leaders from the 1st Civil War transformed their experience into political strategy for America a hundred + years later.

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