April 2nd, 2014

Department of no surprise at all: Israel/Palestine talks stall

Surprise, surprise:

The Middle East peace talks verged on a breakdown Tuesday night, after President Mahmoud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority defied the United States and Israel by taking concrete steps to join 15 international agencies — a move to gain the benefits of statehood outside the negotiations process.

Mr. Abbas’s actions, which appeared to catch American and Israeli officials by surprise, prompted Secretary of State John Kerry to cancel a planned return to the region on Wednesday, in which he had expected to complete an agreement extending negotiations through 2015.

The whole thing seems to be a stupid charade. Why wouldn’t the Palestinians defy the US at this point? Why not take advantage of weakness?

7 Responses to “Department of no surprise at all: Israel/Palestine talks stall”

  1. Don Carlos Says:

    It is worse than a “stupid charade”. It is bizarre, an utter failure of reality testing. We are going to free Pollard in an attempt to get Israel to do something for the Palestinians?!?! But that’s what you get when you go with Hussein and J Effing K.

  2. Ymarsakar Says:

    Execution scaffolds are looking more and more efficient per day.

  3. blert Says:

    “Washington has also vigorously opposed Palestinian membership in the international agencies, which under a law passed by Congress could [should Ed.] prompt a withdrawal of financial aid to the Palestinian Authority and a shutdown of the Palestinian diplomatic mission in Washington.” op. cit. @ OP.

    This would entirely terminate the “Road to Ramallah” show.

    If Barry & Co are not even in the picture (WRT the greater jidad) then our influence must be eroded across the ummah.

    What will JFK do with his free time?

  4. Geoffrey Britain Says:

    “Why wouldn’t the Palestinians defy the US at this point? Why not take advantage of weakness?”

    There are several aspects to this ‘charade’.

    The Obama administration’s attempt to force Israel into an agreement that amounted to national suicide has come to naught. Once again Obama has accomplished nothing and stands revealed as incompetent in the foreign sphere.

    Israel is breathing a sigh of relief. Palestinian intransigence has made it impossible for the Obama administration to paint Israel as obstructionist. Obama has been severely pressuring Israel to accept suicidal conditions and Netanyahu has resisted brilliantly. Israel is now off the hook.

    It’s an open question as to whether the Palestinians seized defeat from the jaws of victory or accurately assessed that Netanyahu was never going to agree to cutting Israel’s throat and, thus decided that preemptively applying for membership in UN agencies was a political hot potato that the Obama administration couldn’t deny them without infuriating its own base.

    Israel has dodged a bullet aimed squarely between her eyes. While the Palestinians have applied to join the most corrupt international organization in the world. They’ll fit right in.

  5. Richard Saunders Says:

    There are lots of advantages to being in the UN: easy availability of drugs, all major and most minor international banks have offices there, and best of all — the shopping is great!

  6. parker Says:

    “easy availability of drugs, all major and most minor international banks have offices there, and best of all — the shopping is great!”

    Money for nothing and the chicks are free:


    That’s the way you do it. Burn it all down to ashes, and we shall see who crawls out from under the charred rubble.

  7. Ariely Shein Says:

    1: Who are the people that are not happy in their countries ?
    2: Who they blame for their unhappiness?
    3: Where and why they are happy?
    4; What they plan for the place they are happy:
    Lets find out!!

    1:Who are the people that are not happy in their countries ?

    In the 2013 World Happiness Report, based on data from 156 countries between 2010 and 2012 the ranks are:
    Jordan =74.–Lebanon =97–Egypt =130—Syria=148–Sudan=124
    Iran=115.–Iraq =105–Tunisia=104–Syria =148.

    The Arabs and Iranian people are unhappiness.

    2: Who they blame for their unhappiness?

    .Not Islam.
    · Not their leadership.
    · Not themselves.
    They blame the west – where they immigrate in masses and live a better life.

    3; Where they are happy?
    Israel ranked 11th.
    (United States ranked 17th, United Kingdom placed 22nd)

    * Results of Israeli Arabs poll are:
    72% of Israeli Arabs prefer to live in Israel than in any other country in ME.
    They graded that the life is much better for them and more prosperous that it would be any place else.
    Arabs in Israel recognized that they have rights and privileges that Arabs/Iranians living in Muslim regimes can only dream of.

    Why are they happy in Israel?

    ** An Arab professor published recently differences between Arab countries and Israel – of course not in an Arab/Iranian where he would be on best cased jailed.
    ———— Arabs countries: ———–
    -Use force to maintain power and keep d humans living in fear.
    -Indoctrinate people with four things:
    *The ruling are great (à la Kim Jung Il).
    *Their country is the greatest.
    *The Palestinian cause is something that is part of their identity.
    *Force feed them Islam so it can be used as a tool to control

    *If you’re a citizen there, your basic freedoms are respected.
    * You can live peacefully, raise a family, and send your kids to competitive and globally recognized universities.
    * This simple basic respect for human dignity put them light-years ahead of anyArab state.
    *As a human being who seeks to improve himself, Israel is a logical choice. It is the only place in the Middle East where your potential can be fully expressed.
    *Based on the values it stands for and the principles that it was founded on, Israel is a force of good for that region and for the world.


    4; What are the Arab countries and Iran quest for Israel, the only in all the ME where Arabs are happy?

    — Al Jazeera interview:
    “If we say that we want to wipe Israel out its too difficult.
    It’s not acceptable policy to say so.
    Don’t say these things to the world. Keep it to yourself.
    Everybody knows that the greater goal cannot be accomplished in one go””

    — Hamascharter point:
    “”Under the Islam wing Islam,Christiannity,Judaism may coexist.
    The day of judgment will not come until Moslems fight KILLING THE JEWS.
    The stones&trees will say O Moslem,there is a jew behind me ,KILL HIM

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