Hillary Clinton’s biggest accomplishment…
…is having been born with two X chromosomes.
I didn’t say it—they did:
Note that the video was made at George Washington University. Although GW isn’t exactly Harvard, it’s a very respectable university and it’s located in Washington DC, where you might expect the students to be a bit more conversant with the news. No such luck.
Then again, they might know a lot about current affairs and still not be able to mention any of Hillary’ Clinton’s accomplishments as Secretary of State, because she hasn’t got any.
When I was in college, the voting age was still 21. The Twenty-Sixth Amendment changed all that in 1971. Its passage was the result of a movement that was popular in part because of opposition to the draft during the Vietnam War, and the idea that it seemed unfair to require men not old enough to vote in their country to fight for it and perhaps to die for it.
Ironically enough, the draft ended in 1973 (the last draftees were called up in December of 1972) not long after the Twenty-Sixth Amendment was passed. But despite the fact that the draft is gone, I very much doubt a movement to repeal the amendment and raise the voting age to twenty-one again would have enough votes to pass (for one thing, the eighteen-year-olds could vote on it). I’d support it, though.
The history behind the end of the draft is an interesting one:
During the 1968 presidential election, Richard Nixon campaigned on a promise to end the draft. He had first become interested in the idea of an all-volunteer army during his time out of office, based upon a paper by Martin Anderson of Columbia University. Nixon also saw ending the draft as an effective way to undermine the anti-Vietnam war movement, since he believed affluent youths would stop protesting the war once their own probability of having to fight in it was gone.
The idea proved unpopular at the time with the Department of Defense and Congress, so it was postponed for a few years. But when the draft did end, the war protests ended too, just as Nixon had foreseen. What he didn’t foresee was his own downfall as a result of Watergate, the ascendancy of the Democratic Party in its wake, and the resultant abandonment of our financial help for the South Vietnamese that resulted in our abandonment of their cause, the cause for which so many Americans had died. The draft had ended, the war was over, and 18-year-olds could vote.
“GW isn’t exactly Harvard,” but something tells me that Harvard students, responding to the same question, would reveal themselves to be equally clueless and inane.
Something tells me . . .
Thanks to feminism, thats most of all womens accomplishments… and if not, it still isnt theirs, its the sisters.. just think how far self loathing can get you disguised as liberation
but in her case… she is a communist (see papers from welesly). and married a fulbright scholar who went to school in the soviet union and had a soviet knickname… and did so to avoid vietnam.. (fulbright was thought to be a spy for the soviets)
today the draft would have to reject over 80% of the people
I say for the sake of equality and parity, we should draf twomen into the military until as many die in service as men… they have a long way to go… in vietnam, only 8 died (not including a loved photographer with pearl earrings)… 50,000 men… then there is antitam… where 50,000 died in one day…
of course. hearing hilary tell it and ignore history..
“Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat. Women often have to flee from the only homes they have ever known. Women are often the refugees from conflict and sometimes, more frequently in today’s warfare, victims. Women are often left with the responsibility, alone, of raising the children.”
really? prior to the modern age women didnt get the kids, so who where they raising?
anyway… you see… i just want to make it right… let the men stay home and be the primary victims and let the women go out and be mangled, eaten alive, tortured and enjoy the whole getting back to nature thing!!!!
if they want to be like the men who had their penis cut off and shoved nto their mouths as that is less horrible, i say go ahead!!!
i will do the sacrificial thing and stay h ome with the kids and suffer… she can go fight…
boooyahhh!!!
“…is having been born with two X chromosomes.”
Are we sure about that?
As a GW alum, I feel about as proud as I did before I watched the video.
BTW, this is a real stream of consciousness post: Hillary -> GWU/Harvard -> Voting Age -> Vietnam -> the draft -> Nixon
If you’d included Hillary’s role in the impeachment hearings, the circle would’ve been closed!
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Nixon was certainly talented in some ways, and could’ve had a great career. But his personal failings overwhelmed him…very Greek tragedy, that.
IIRC, early in his career as a congressman, he was instrumental in the Alger Hiss case when he asked some very pertinent questions that didn’t occur to other investigators. Maybe that was a case of “it takes one to know one.”
He was the start of my questioning the wisdom of the establishment. Many years after the fact (I’m not old enough to remember his tenure), I came to the conclusion that he made wildly imperial moves that fly in the face of a “restrained presidency” and hence, conservatism.
It initially was the economic moves; price/wage controls and taking the U.S. off the gold standard.
His advocacy of changing the voting age shows the dichotomy of his thinking: on one hand, it was a very shrewd political move that undercut LBJ’s position.
OTOH, I think it must’ve done lasting damage to the republic as the 18-year old vote must be considered as “low-information.”
In that, he reminds me of Obama: politics first, and damn the consequences.
Nixon is a case study of what happens when you reject the wisdom of our Constitutional structure in favor of your own perceived brilliance. He is a study of arrogance.
“Hillary Clinton’s biggest accomplishment…is having been born with two X chromosomes.”
Yes and for such as they, that is all that is needed to obtain their vote. Just as Obama’s being 1/2 black was all the qualification needed by those who voted for him.
And, just as in 2008 Obama’s utter lack of qualifications didn’t matter, nor did his abysmal record in 2012 matter, so too will it be with Hillary in 2016.
In 2016, Benghazi won’t matter, her prior stands on various issues won’t matter, her lackluster record as a Senator nor her lack of achievement as SecState… none of it will matter. Literally the only thing that will matter is her being a ‘progressive’ woman of the left. For half the American public and perhaps 4/5 of the young, political correctness trumps all.
The left, through academia and the media has spent the last half century indoctrinating the young into the left’s memes and narrative. It has dumbed down education such that a college graduate of today is far less educated than a high school graduate of yesteryear. Morality is at an all time low and religion’s moral premises have been replaced with situational ethics and pursuit of objectivity with relativism.
This country was founded as a representative Republic. The left has and is doing all it can to transform it into a popular democracy and through the harness of political correctness has effectively turned this country into a de facto democracy.
Some 200 years ago Pres. John Adams expressed an observation of relevance to these times; “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. A democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There was never a democracy that did not commit suicide.”
We shall all reap the whirlwind that the left has wrought.
Wasn’t Sandra Fluke at GWU?
Matt_SE INCREADIBLY GREAT CATCH!!!
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Sam L.:
No. She was at Georgetown Law. Completely different university, although also in Washington.
“His advocacy of changing the voting age shows the dichotomy of his thinking: on one hand, it was a very shrewd political move that undercut LBJ’s position. OTOH, I think it must’ve done lasting damage to the republic as the 18-year old vote must be considered as “low-information.” Matt SE
It was a shrewd political move and undercut the democrat’s position but politically, Vietnam had made LBJ persona non grata in the democrat party.
I can’t agree that lowering the vote to 18 did that much harm. I find today’s 21 yr olds as indoctrinated and foolish as the 18 yr olds. It’s the cultural indoctrination of academia and the media that is responsible, not their age.
I do remember Nixon’s ‘reign’, his ‘Imperial’ Presidency and he certainly was arrogant but… I consider his ‘opening up of China’ to be of far more negative historical import than anything else he did. Price/wage controls was temporary and taking the U.S. off the gold standard was reactive. It was merely formal recognition of a political reality; the public’s unwillingness to live within our means.
Nixon and Kissinger bet that greed and the comfort of material abundance would trump ideology.
We have given China the means to challenge America for world dominance and China is in the early stages of issuing that challenge.
Ah, for an edit function:-(
Correction: It was merely formal recognition of an economic reality; the public’s unwillingness to live within our means.
Nixon and Kissinger bet with China, that greed and the comfort of material abundance would trump ideology.
Check for when the US confiscated gold up. The US hasn’t been on a gold standard since the feds started printing money.
Geoffrey Britain:
I agree that Nixon didn’t really know the long-term effects of lowering the voting age. I don’t have time to find the chart right now, but I remember reading that the extreme leftist skew of the young only got going later on.
However, I don’t agree with you that raising the voting age wouldn’t help. It’s not so much that eighteen-year-olds and twenty-one-year-olds necessarily think so very differently from each other, although I’ve never seen any research on that. But at the very least, it would slightly change (reduce) the ratio of young to old in the voting population.
The problem isn’t age, but dependence, economic, authorities. Visa applicants need to show economic independence while in the US. Yet citizens can be on welfare forever, with no job or independent source of income, and they are allowed to determine the country’s future.
Thus anyone that is given government benefits, loans, payments, or welfare, must be cut from the citizenship rolls, whether permanently or temporarily, or in full or in part.
What jumped out at me in that video: the young woman who said Hillary is a “nice, fresh face” and the young man who said “definitely not the Benghazi ordeal” as being of Hillary’s accomplishments.
The young woman, of course, needs a refresher course on what the word “fresh” means. But whatever.
The young man’s comment about Benghazi, though, shows that what little about it has been allowed to seep into the popular imagination has not left a good impression. If only we had an honest MSM. If only.
Most depressing comment in the video was by the doofus who actually thought Hillary’s handling of Benghazi was just great. He should not be allowed to vote ever.
Another “historic” presidency. Awesome. Not sure, but, um like, awesome.
Might not even be much of a country left to fight over at the rate the Left wants to move.
The future is in great hands. I do get some satisfaction knowing that these twits will one day be crushed under a ridiculous tax burden to pay for their naiveté, their free clean energy from the sun and wind, their free health care, their free college degree in humanities, and especially my social security until I die. And They will enjoy great long careers waiting tables and selling sox at Walmart struggling to make ends meet, wondering why the government and benefits they voted fora and felt they were entitled to, never worked out the way their college professors and fellow budding geniuses were certain they would.
Well, it is safe to say that HRC has the the idiot vote all tied up.
@Artfldgr:
Thanks. But which part was the “great catch?” There were several points made.
@ Geoffrey Britain:
Your first two points are valid criticism. Maybe a better formulation would be that Nixon’s moves weren’t definitive, of themselves, but contributory.
Lowering the voting age didn’t make the electorate irresponsible by itself, but it probably didn’t help matters.
Conversely, raising the age wouldn’t solve the problem completely, but might help a bit; especially considering neo-neocon’s response.
As far as the China thing, it wasn’t really a problem until the ChiComs started adopting capitalism. That didn’t happen until much later (c. 1990?), and I don’t think it’s fair to blame that on Nixon.
His move drove a wedge between China and the Soviet Union that lasted for decades. Once again though, it was probably a contributory matter as there was already friction in Sino-Soviet relations…being rivals, and all.
“Price/wage controls [were] temporary and taking the U.S. off the gold standard was reactive.”
Price/wage controls were bad for two reasons:
1) They didn’t work, and if you believe in Austrian School economics, were actually doomed to failure. This portrays our side as feckless.
2) They undercut conservative legitimacy as opponents of government interference in the market. This is a prime example of the phenomenon, repeated serially over the years. The Republican establishment adopts a Big Government “solution,” and afterwards Democrats are able to point to it as an example that legitimates their own position. (Romneycare, anyone? Expansion of Medicare part D? TARP-style industry bailouts?)
Your take on the gold standard issue is succinct, and essentially correct.
Some particulars, though, for the edification of others:
After WWII, the U.S. held much of the west’s gold reserves; the currency of trade was the dollar. Around 1965, de Gaulle stared pushing for economic autonomy and cashing in France’s dollars for gold; a move that was soon joined by other European countries.(http://archive.mises.org/8225/de-gaulle-the-gold-bug/)
This depleted the U.S. stockpiles. Without the gold with which to back the massive amounts of currency the U.S. had printed, the U.S. faced a crisis.
If the situation were left unchecked, it would result in massive inflation of the dollar and subsequent loss of confidence. There were too many dollars in circulation than could be justified.
If dollars were removed from circulation in order to preserve the exchange ratio, it would result in a massive deflationary shock, akin to when a credit bubble collapses. This would be the “public’s unwillingness to live within our means” to which you refer.
Nixon’s actions reduced short-term pain in exchange for long-term instability of the dollar. The instability came from the government’s now-increased ability to debase the currency through printing.
neo,
I didn’t mean to imply that I’m against raising the voting age. I just suspect that the positives would be, at best minimal.
Given the continued and ever younger indoctrination in the schools and media by the leftist dominated cultural institutions, I’m in favor of trying out the experiment that voting be restricted to those who’ve personally demonstrated their commitment to the greater good by having volunteered to risk their lives for their country.
An electorate consisting solely of those in the military, veterans, police and firemen would be far superior to what we have today. And I realize that’s politically unrealistic, perhaps the next bastion of liberty will learn from our example.
southpaw,
The problem is that it won’t be just the twits who suffer. I also wouldn’t count on SS lasting until you die and the VA scandal is just a preview of what awaits the public with single payer. The death panels will determine how long the medically and economically unfortunate live.
I remember the Democrat controlled congress voting to cut off funding to our allies in SE Asia thereby making a commuist takeover certain. That genius Chris Dodd, in a speech in congress, said the Cambodians would be better off under Pol Pot.
Off on a tangent, but this comment gave me pause:
“Note that the video was made at George Washington University. Although GW isn’t exactly Harvard,…”.
Many still consider Harvard the gold standard of higher education in the U.S., so I did a quick review of some of the graduates who influence our lives (politically). Among them are;
Al Gore, Teddy Kennedy, Janet Reno, John Edwards, Chuck Shumer and Al Franken. (Admittedly a self-serving sample.)
Still reviewing that list, some might say that “Harvard isn’t (always) exactly Harvard”.
Of course GWU claims Steven Baldwin among its notable Alums; not to mention Colin Powell.
I noted that GWU was created by an Act of Congress in order to establish an Institution of Higher Learning in the Capital City. I found no reference in the GWU website to indicate who the school answers to for funding at present.
Matt SE,
I agree regarding, “Nixon’s moves weren’t definitive, of themselves, but contributory.”
IMO, you are somewhat misinformed regarding China and Nixon’s impact. The ChiComs started adopting a market economy (capitalism) long before the 90’s.
I well remember the argument that raged when Nixon went to China. Nixon and Kissinger bet on capitalism’s ‘corrosive effect’ upon the ChiComs.
While many Americans argued that, in the minds of the ChiComs, communist ideology would have to trump capitalism because communism is per se, a critique of capitalism. And, however flawed that critique, it is one embraced by communists. To fully adopt capitalism inescapably requires completely rejecting communism. But China remains a one party communist state.
In February 1972, Nixon and his wife traveled to China. The visit ushered in a new era of Sino-American relations.
Mao reportedly liked Nixon but distrusted Kissinger. Mao died in 1976 and Deng Xiaoping, who had long disagreed with Mao on economic policy, by 1978 was leading China towards a market economy.
Between 1978 and 2005, China’s per capita GDP grew from $153 to $1284, a remarkable turnaround. China’s current account surplus then accelerated, increasing over twelve-fold between 1982 and 2004, from $5.7 billion to $71 billion. Like a snowball rolling down a hill, China’s economy started slowly but as momentum built it became an economic powerhouse due to American investment and trade.
Price/wage controls are strongly counter productive and I am a firm believer in the Austrian School of economics. Nixon taking the US off the gold standard disconnected the money supply from a physical connection to reality and directly contributed to the dominance of the fiat money system since 1971.
The level of indebtedness we currently owe and our trade imbalance with China would have been impossible to create had a physical connection to the money supply remained. Any physical connection (gold is merely convenient) forces monetary responsibility upon governments and societies.
Your point that, “They undercut conservative legitimacy as opponents of government interference in the market.” is I believe, an important one.
If she runs and wins she will be Queen.
She can’t be impeached for anything. She will be the historic first woman President. And any attempt to remove her will also be alleged to be due to a desire to get Bill.
She knows the above and will act accordingly.
The Democrats needed money to buy more votes, that’s why they didn’t want Vietnam to have any.
I enrolled in the Conservative Party in New York State as an 18 year old (1971) back when it stood for something. My subscription to National Review was several years old, and by that time I had read every published word by Ayn Rand.
Heck, I had even even read “What Social Classes Owe to Each Other” (nothing) by Charles Sumner, Bastiat, Hayek, Rothbard and more. I purchased Human Action and tried really hard to read it, but it was really over my head.
I still have my three volume set of Lenin, but to tell the truth, that was over my head also. I tried. Marxist literature in general was (for me) too abstract. It was only later in life that it was possible for me to comprehend the thinness of the abstraction, and the psychological truth it disguised.
Maybe the most profound influence on my thinking was the Baltimore catechism, which when you think about it is a deeply intellectual exercise for children, but unlike Marxist thinking it is comprehensible, even for children. There is a valid point in that observation.
Looking at the children in this video, I see myself. It proves some things, although I am not sure what exactly. They all seem like lovable human beings. LOL … they all need a hug.
Relating age to voting is a crude thing. We lowered the voting age at precisely the time when the necessary attributes associated with maturity were in reality being re-assigned to a much older age.
Is 30 the new 18? I think so.
I get a chuckle out of this type of stuff (the video) but I also have a dismay at real human beings put in a frame of reference which makes them look ridiculous for being what we all were at the same age.
The non-Left position should be prudence, wisdom, personal modesty, cost/benefit analysis, awareness of unintended consequences, knowledge of history, logic, and respect for other human beings.
These are the sorts of things young folks don’t have (mostly).
Geoffrey Britain,
You are correct about the timeline. Wiki has a chart of China’s GDP over the years, and the point where it started taking off (coincidentally, the point where they surpassed India) was 1978:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:China_india_gdp.jpg
Thank you. Now I’ve learned something.
Still, I’m not so sure that was due to any meeting with Nixon so much as a decision on China’s part to switch economic systems. But I’ll concede again, contributory.
A funny thing about the rise of China has been the pro/con arguments: On the one hand, due to Judeo/Christian morality, we feel the need to improve the lot of those who suffer and are economically backward.
Globalists love to quote how world poverty has decreased.
On the other hand, it always struck me that by improving China’s lot, we would be creating a competitor on the world stage.
This counter-argument was usually dismissed with rhetorical hand-waving (U.S. workers are more productive!) and faux-patriotism (we can compete with anyone in the world!).
“Rhetorical hand-waving,” because that statement is only half the equation; it doesn’t include cost. If a Chinese worker is only 50% as productive, but costs only 40% of a U.S. worker, then two Chinese can be employed for less than the price of one American, and the business will benefit.
This might be seen as a re-purposing of Stalin’s famous quote “Quantity has a quality all its own.”
“Faux-patriotism,” because there’s no reason to believe that U.S. citizens are inherently more capable than Chinese citizens. In fact, considering dedication to education (and maybe work ethic), there seems to be evidence to the contrary.
IMO, the only inherent superiority of the United States over China (or any other country) has been, up to now, our system of governance and dedication to free market capitalism.
China has moved marginally toward the right politically: Fascism versus Communism; to me, a distinction without a difference.
They have moved more markedly toward the right economically.
Meanwhile, the U.S. is moving leftward on both issues.
If we “meet in the middle,” the U.S. will lose the competition simply by way of population.
But, on the third hand (heh), China’s demographics are more screwed-up than ours, mainly due to their “one child” policy. They are graying faster than we are, and I think their era of “domination” may be as short as 20 years.
“They are graying faster than we are, and I think their era of “domination” may be as short as 20 years.”
They have a lot of males under the age of 40 to provide cannon fodder. The nation states will soon turn to war to resolve the global debt crisis. Barring the use of nukes, a Sino-Russian coalition will be formidable as the ‘progressives’ pivot towards Asia, and we all know who the Islamofascists will side with.
18 year olds should not be allowed to vote. They are too young and stupid.
Repeal the 26th Amendment. Anyone who knows 18 year olds knows they cannot possibly be informed voters. Anyone who says they are ought to have their right to vote repealed too. Ridiculous.
Matt SE,
You’re welcome. “The truly educated never graduate” because… they never stop learning.
IMO, Nixon’s opening of China was far more than merely contributory. It was seminal. In Aug. of 1971, it was widely agreed because of his history, that only Nixon could go to China and NOT be accused of being ‘soft’ on communism. It was seminal because Nixon opened the door for American business to explore business opportunities in China without having to face condemnation.
American businessmen literally drooled, contemplating the new 1 BILLION consumer market that China represented. It’s ironic and tragic that instead of a vast new market, American business instead remained competitive by outsourcing manufacturing in the face of the Asian consumer goods onslaught. The ‘unexpected consequence’ of Nixon’s China policy.
Judeo/Christian morality, does indeed demand that we offer to help those who suffer and are economically backward. Common sense also demands that we not stick our heads in the lion’s mouth. Other than temporarily, communists do not believe in coexistence. No totalitarian system practices ‘live and let live’.
“IMO, the only inherent superiority of the United States over China (or any other country) has been, up to now, our system of governance and dedication to free market capitalism.”
There is an important third factor; celebration of the individual. Without that cultural dynamic, invention and innovation is moribund.
The “Global Creativity Index” (GCI) is based on three human factors: How technologically savvy are they? How capable is their workforce? And how open are they to new ideas?
Sweden is first with a .923 index. The US is second with a .902 index. China is not in the top 15 nations. Thgough China does not issue reliable statistics and quite happily steals proven technology. Honest competition and earned merit being such ‘bourgeois’ concepts… Singapore @ # 9 is the only Asian society in the top 15. All the rest are western societies.
I too think that China’s era of “domination” may be as short as 20 years. But I would add another factor to their future demise besides a graying and gender imbalanced population; and that is Robotics and A.I.
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Yes, it will be a paradigm change for America and the world as well. Robotics will ensure that manufacturing will return to its point of sale.
The new human paradigm, for all but the wealthy will be develop an educated skill set or joining the dependency class.
Ann said:
“Most depressing comment in the video was by the doofus who actually thought Hillary’s handling of Benghazi was just great. He should not be allowed to vote ever.”
Amend that to not being allowed to procreate and we have a winner.
Geoffrey Britain,
Elements of Marx, “The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
Considering the recent articles about the ongoing fraud of H1-B visas and Silicon Valley’s machinations, it seems apt.
“There is an important third factor; celebration of the individual. Without that cultural dynamic, invention and innovation is moribund.”
That’s really what I meant by “…governance and dedication to free market capitalism.” America is the first country dedicated to the proposition that there isn’t an “elite” class, and nor should there be.
America is more meritocratic than almost any other civilization. That is the nature of “American exceptionalism.”
However, I must also note the danger in recent years of the trend toward the atomization of the polity. Effective action requires joining forces into groups, and that is undermined by hyper-individualization.
I didn’t know about the “Global Creativity Index,” or the rankings, but it doesn’t surprise me. I speculate that China’s low ranking is due to their culture (though given the premise of A Troublesome Inheritance, there may be the rudiments of genetic selection involved…who knows?). But America’s culture of openness makes it very easy to steal innovation, so I expect the theft of intellectual property will continue.
Robotics, maybe. But it seems a way off, yet.
MJR:
“GW isn’t exactly Harvard,” but something tells me that Harvard students, responding to the same question, would reveal themselves to be equally clueless and inane.
Something tells me . . .
I totally agree – this isn’t about GWU students being clueless; most students today are being indoctrinated very well, and being poorly educated.
Actual conversation I’ve had with some women who are ostensibly middle-to- middle right politically:
“Why would you vote for Hillary?”
“Because it’s time for a woman president.”
“She’s opposed to pretty much everything you stand for, so give me a better reason.”
“I just think how proud I’ll feel to vote for a woman for president.”
“Hmm. Suppose I said I was going to vote for a candidate simply because he possessed a penis?”
“What?! Why would you say that? That’s misogynistic!”
This will not end well.
Chris Dodd is ensuring that liberty is alive on the internet via the MPAA.
Chris Dodd is also using the money from the housing bubble he financed, for the LEft’s war on humanity.
They got war to pay for itself.
The ones that had a clue, refused the interview at this place.
Harvard’s reputation has taken a hit in recent years. Their business and government schools produced a lot of the leaders who haven’t exactly shone with brilliance in the last ten years.
Georgetown is a couple of miles away from George Washington. I don’t remember seeing any bars in that area go bankrupt.
If Americans don’t cultivate the next generation by trusting them with responsibility and power, there is no future for America.
It may feel good to slam down the brakes on the train, but the point of no return was long ago passed and surpassed.
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