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  1. My prediction is that she will be the VP candidate for HRC. Just wait to see the press swoon over that pair, it will be nauseating. The duo will be untouchable and all criticism will be regarded as treason against the state, or at least the MSM.

    Do you know of anyotential Democratic candidates who have any executive experience? These two sure don’t.

  2. What a wonderful world. (Could you write a song on that theme?)

    Elizabeth Warren has gone from an object of ridicule to the Darling of the Left in short order.

    I now read that she is a brilliant former Harvard Law professor; and yet, not so long ago she just sounded nutty. What a metamorphosis.

    If she runs, it should be an interesting campaign.

    How about Pocahontas Warren vs Jindal. They could debate the question of who is the real Indian? Crowley would probably declare for Warren.

  3. Yes, Hillary + Warren is a real possibility. Anyone who doesn’t vote for the FIRST ALL FEMALE ticket is obviously a sexist. Warren appears to have aged much better than Hillary too and she’s as radical as Obama. What’s not to like?

  4. Oye.

    Put Ben Carson and Condi Rice against them and see who comes out smelling smart and smelling of freedom. Carson executive experience? Being a surgeon is being an executive-and-a-technician all in one. Condi experience? Multi-layered. Or put up Rice and Jindal. Jindal and Walker. Walker and Condi. Lots of folks from which to pick.

    Experienced Dems? They’d say that NY governor has exec experience. Oh how about that San Antonia Mayor? That’s an executive job – Si? And of course there is the formidable and immortal Jerry Brown you could put in there. How about Brown-Warren.

  5. The blogger ‘Bookworm” is a lawyer and had Fauxahontas as a law school instructor. This was years ago but her opinion of Sen Warren is truly caustic!

    I think outside of the Massachusetts bubble she would play horribly. She is not very sharp and is as shrill and politically inexperienced as Hillary. But to the Progressives she says the right things. The progressive boomlet is done and I think so is Hillary

  6. Me wantum Squaw Warren to make Hillary’s squalid-pathetic life miserable. This Gooood.

    Me like Hillary miserable and tense. How.

  7. Why ten talking points? Why not distill them down to one bumper-sticker: “You have, I want. Gimme”

  8. She looks like a female version of Harry Reid, and reminds me , somehow, of a wet mop. I just don’t get the appeal.

  9. ” I just don’t get the appeal.”

    “You have, I want. Gimme”

  10. I don’t see minority voters getting excited to go vote for an old white woman.

  11. The thought of a Hillary!/Warren team-up crossed my mind, but as neo-neocon noticed, they’re both past their prime. This is the last chance for both of them (that it is Warren’s first chance doesn’t matter).

    There is a real schism in the Democratic party between the true believers (Warren) and the crafty realists (Hillary!). They truly don’t care for each other.

    I doubt there can be an alliance, since it would necessitate one of them playing second-string. Their egos and sense of mission won’t allow either to pass up the last chance.

  12. If Hillary/Warren run and win in 2016, it may be the last of the United States as a potential leader of the Free World. If either of these leftists are in power, we may not be in the Free World anymore and finishing off our decline in world influence and leadership.

  13. It’s funny that Hillary just looks old and tired, she’s definitely showing her mileage.

    Meanwhile, Liz Warren looks much better (she’s got that hip professorial thing going on), but when she rails she sounds old – like an angry, sometimes incoherent person railing about a long-past hurt to no one in particular. At least that’s the impression I got from Lizzie’s “You didn’t build that!” rant, which was my first glimpse at her radical nature.

  14. So now it’s Jerry Brown into the mix.

    I suspect that Brown could push Hillary to the curb.

    She’s THAT bad of a speaker.

    I can’t see Warren as anything more than V-P material.

    As V-P she’d make the 45th President bullet proof: even an insane man would never dare make her president.

    This trend, of putting totally unqualified personalities in the V-P slot, is now part of the American political landscape.

  15. Brown will be the nominee, if he wants it. They want a woman president, but like many of their wants, given an opportunity, they balk. They are far more sexist than I ever dreamed. Actually, I am not, just a label through transference.

  16. I’ve been reading Kurt Schlicter’s “Conservative Insurgency”, which is a fictional account of the ascendance of conservative politics written in the year 2041. While I think some elements of the book are overly optimistic, he does paint a very believable picture of national politics over the next couple decades.

    He does have Hillary Clinton serve two terms as President, which paves a clear path for conservatives to start winning in politics and the culture. I think he’s got a point. I don’t think the pain will be high enough in 2016 for the average LIV to realize “progressivism” is doomed to fail. There’s a perennial 40% of people that are either too brainwashed or too stupid to understand that the Marxist/socialist ideas of Obama and company are the worst inventions in all of history.

    The real question is not whether Hillary Clinton or Elizabeth Warren or whoever is the Democrat candidate, but whether the Republicans can find a candidate with some actual fire in his belly. I like Mitt Romney for the most part, but he doesn’t have that fire.

    We need someone with the brains of Alan Keyes, the experience of Mitt Romney, the plain-spoken common sense of Thomas Sowell, the character of Allen West, and the charisma of, um, I was really trying to think of someone other than Reagan, but “charismatic Republican” is almost an oxymoron these days. Rick Perry’s got some. Newt does too. But no one I can think of is a truly inspiring person.

  17. will she run in 2016?
    i guess that depends on whether they storm the castle, and frankenstein must flee thet townspeople…

  18. ConceptJunkie Says:

    But no one I can think of is a truly inspiring person.

    Sarah Palin. She inspires both the misogynist progressive left and the patriotic Conservative right. Both for different reasons, of course, but she does inspire.

  19. Given the current state of the Republican party, the Democratic nomination is worth having, which means it will be contested. And the fact is that if Hill were a strong candidate, she would have won in 2008.

    The Democrats will be looking fore someone who can be the center of a cult of personality. That’s not Hill, in part because we know too much about her. Hilary will never be forgiven for voting for the war, and she is too closely associated with Obama, who has proved to be a disappointment. The fact that Hilary’s book cratered is a good indication that she’s finished.

    As a Senator, Warren doesn’t have a record as an executive that can be closely examined. Jerry Brown and Andrew Cuomo (Who would love to run, I think), both do. Of all of the potential crop of Democratic nominees, Warren would be the easiest pig to put lipstick on. Don’t underestimate that advantage.

  20. Elizabeth Warren’s 11 Commandments of Progressivism
    http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/elizabeth-warren-s-11-commandments-of-progressivism-20140718

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    Elizabeth Warren’s 11 Commandments of Progressivism

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    July 18, 2014

    Watch Elizabeth Warren give a speech to her fold, and you realize she’s one of the rare Democrats who can excite her base in the same way Ted Cruz or Dr. Ben Carson can excite their own. As Politico’s Katie Glueck wrote on Friday, liberals’ minds may be with Hillary Clinton, but their hearts lie with Warren.

    Speaking on Friday at Netroots Nation, a convention for liberal bloggers and activists, Warren got the crowd more fired up than Vice President Joe Biden was able to do the day before. (To be fair, the crowd was in a solemn mood at the time in reaction to the news of the Malaysian passenger plane crash). In her speech, Warren outlined more clearly than other Democrats the social issues that galvanize progressives. Her performance was reminiscent of a certain other young senator in 2008.

    “What are our values?” Warren asked the audience, some of whom held up “Run Liz Run” signs. “What does it mean to be a progressive?”

    She went on to outline 11 tenets of progressivism:
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    – “We believe that Wall Street needs stronger rules and tougher enforcement, and we’re willing to fight for it.”

    – “We believe in science, and that means that we have a responsibility to protect this Earth.”

    – “We believe that the Internet shouldn’t be rigged to benefit big corporations, and that means real net neutrality.”

    – “We believe that no one should work full-time and still live in poverty, and that means raising the minimum wage.”

    – “We believe that fast-food workers deserve a livable wage, and that means that when they take to the picket line, we are proud to fight alongside them.”

    – “We believe that students are entitled to get an education without being crushed by debt.”

    – “We believe that after a lifetime of work, people are entitled to retire with dignity, and that means protecting Social Security, Medicare, and pensions.”

    – “We believe–I can’t believe I have to say this in 2014–we believe in equal pay for equal work.”

    – “We believe that equal means equal, and that’s true in marriage, it’s true in the workplace, it’s true in all of America.”

    – “We believe that immigration has made this country strong and vibrant, and that means reform.”

    – “And we believe that corporations are not people, that women have a right to their bodies. We will overturn Hobby Lobby and we will fight for it. We will fight for it!”

    And the main tenet of conservatives’ philosophy, according to Warren? “I got mine. The rest of you are on your own.”

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    This isn’t the first time we’ve seen a list like this.

    “The 25 Points of Hitler’s Nazi Party”

    1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.

    2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.

    3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.

    4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.

    5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.

    6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen.

    We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.

    7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.

    8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.

    9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.

    10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.

    Therefore we demand:

    11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

    12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

    13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

    14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

    15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

    16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

    17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

    18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

    19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

    20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

    21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

    22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.

    23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:

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