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  1. I think we could engage in some wordplay, swapping out the name “Snowden” with another now household name, eh?

  2. The former NSA official merely asserts “it is impossible to imagine” that ISIS,as geekily capable as it has proven to be, could not have done what it has done online without data via Snowden. That is a rather hollow claim. Just a claim, not facts, none. ISIS has proven itself plenty capable in many malicious and evil ways, and the Internet should elude them?
    So far one ISIS guy exceeds in ability 20 Obamaclones.

  3. I agree with Don Carlos although I don’t know what exactly it was that Snowden disclosed. A lot of stuff involving anonymity or hiding on the internet is pretty basic stuff. It just requires a little knowledge, common sense, care and practice. However, nothing you can do is perfect.

    However, I think Eddie made a mistake he will regret for the rest of his life and I think he was extremely naive.

  4. mf,
    Not naive–arrogant. He had no idea about what he released and no concept that it might prove useful to our enemies. I hope he regrets what he did, not because I think he will have a moral awakening but because he will have a miserable life.

  5. has “clearly” capitalized on the voluminous leaks from former NSA contractor Edward Snowden and is exploiting the top-secret disclosures to evade U.S. intelligence.

    And the proof is where by this anonymous source?

    They got no proof. They can’t even say what Snowden took. And that’s proof of what, incompetence?

    ISIL could easily be falling under the radar for the same reason AQ won in Libya. Because Hussein ordered them to be left mostly unmolested.

  6. Well then our ruling dem elite must be traitors too because they certainly have enabled the rise of ISIS. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of peace. You really believe the NSA bullcrap? I have a bridge I can sell you.

  7. Covering of arses and excuse-making it sounds like.

    There is a cure for ISIS and everyone knows it. There was a vaccine for ISIS and everyone knows it.

    The outrageousness of these feckless and nearly traitorous federal bureaucrats to blame a Snowden figure is both astonishing and deeply troubling.

  8. OT

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-05/16-stunning-quotes-global-health-officials-ebola-epidemic

    Ever more bad news is revealing what I posted just days ago: the ebola epidemic is already entirely beyond our ability to handle it.

    Even this article sweet talks it.

    No-one can bear to admit that modern man is hopelessly behind the curve — the exponential curve — of this epidemic.

    It’s so bad that those brave, heroic souls fighting the epidemic are falling like leaves — in autumn.

    The world needs to erect a total quarantine before this epidemic breaks out into the larger world.

    As it stands, the do-gooders are making everything very much worse — but with the best of intentions.

    They need to stop digging.

  9. Steve…

    Google Operation Zero Footprint and Allen West.

    I can’t get the link to post — it’s being deliberately repressed by the authorities.

    So much for the First Amendment.

  10. mf…

    Snowden released too much inside information — he was running on the same impulses that had Judas kissing Jesus.

    He’s at no small risk of a Judas ending, too.

    &&&

    He had way too many files/ programs/ operations for him to look under the covers and make any value judgements at all.

    He just barfed them out.

    Where he doesn’t emulate Judas — he emulates Benedict Arnold.

    He was a self-actualizing traitor.

    He never was a Russian or Chinese agent. Like the Falcon (my old classmate) he just fell into their laps.

    That a fellow, like Snowden, could hit every node of the traitor profile and NOT flag NSA internal controls is even more frightening.

    This is compounded by the NSA living in total denial.

    THEY screwed up.

  11. I remember when the newspapers kept talking about AQ getting droned because they were talking on cellphones. Soon after, they stopped using traceable cellphones and started using messengers. Was the media held to account as a traitor then?

    So what now, do we know the means and methods? If it’s blown, get em over here. But they won’t, cause they don’t know anything. And they don’t want to interrogate British Guardian journalists to get the scoop because.

  12. I still think Snowden did American citizens a great favor when he told us that OUR GOVERNMENT was collecting metadata about each and every American citizen. It’s a shame that some of the information he released is hurting NSA’s ability to gather information about terrorists(especially those as evil as ISIS) but our GOVERNMENT is paying the price for its evil, unconstitutional spying on American citizens. We have a government that insists it must gather metadata on every citizen– yet, it does not insist on securing our border and knowing who is crossing our border and entering our country illegally. This is not logical. Who does our government think is its enemy?

  13. blert:

    I think he had reason to believe that what he was doing was the right thing to do. In his mind he was a patriot. Completely wrong of course but it’s the environment he was in (Assange, Manning, internet “pundits”, etc.). You and I can recognize the BS. You and I know the NSA has a storied history and helped defeat enemies. For whatever its faults today, it is not pariotic to poke at the eyes and ears of the state that protects you.

    I believe he suckered himself and I understand how it could happen and it behooves Americans to try to ensure that it is unlikely to happen again.

    This is not to negate the police state danger the NSA represents.

    And yes they did screw up big-time.

  14. Snowden wasn’t an analyst. So even if he read the stuff, he wouldn’t have figured out the details of what was going on. This is the same for Manning.

    People who are so messed up they want to change their sex, have no business talking about how America should change the world. They don’t get it. And Snowden, who liked Hussein of all people for President, wasn’t in a position to understand the ramifications of the documents he web crawled through. Neither is the Guardian reporter connected to him either.

    Having an inside agent in the NSA would have done enormous good for some organizations in America. Acquiring and setting the passwords of one operative is a treasure load of information, but Snowden had access to numerous accounts as SystemAdmin.

    None of the players I know, including the Left, would ever have exposed such an asset just to get some story from the Guardian or AP published.

    America has benefited plenty from Soviet defectors, but they were also ignored or shunted aside, since they defected for internal reasons, not because we turned them.

  15. I rarely disagree with Hinderacker (but fequently with Mirengoff), but it is impossible to reach any conclusion from a poorly sourced, detail omitted statement, from a guy who has a fetish for secrecy. Does anyone expect him to ever say Snowden did not harm the NSA?

    I return to my earlier comments: I would rather we have freedom and liberty and be free of internal spying reminiscent of the Stasi that have some false sense of security.

    It is doubtful ISIS, who have already shown a penchant for military strategy and planning, would not have assumed they were getting at least the same treatment as Bin Laden. To say Snowden is responsible for that is nonsense.

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