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  1. Tell a meaningless truth to disguise a purposeful dishonesty. Okay, there was zero risk he infected anybody on the flight. What about all he people he met once he got here? Maybe he went to church with the family. Maybe he shook hands with the pastor. Maybe he went grocery shopping. Maybe he pushed the cart. And I thought people who used the disinfecting wipes were OCD!

    With all that said, I don’t think he’ll be vector zero. I worry a lot more about the ones who aren’t in the news. I worry about an outbreak in Mexico or a South-American country. They’re like West Africa in their crappy medical care situation. How will we stop hordes of runners fleeing from Ebola as they cross the Rio Grande?

  2. It was inevitable that it would happen

    It was only “inevitable” because our rulers decided to let the entire Third World into the United States, no questions asked. It’s not as if they were unfamiliar with techniques to avoid the spread of communicable diseases, such as screening immigrants and prohibiting flights from infected areas.

    We are under attack by our own government. And biological warfare, no less. If this doesn’t qualify as treason, I don’t know what does.

  3. rickl:

    Yes, inevitable because we weren’t doing what needed to be done to make it far more unlikely.

  4. I work in Dallas and live in the burbs nearby. This is not good. Lots of my friends are VERY nervous about this. I may work from home a lot more in the near future.

  5. Hi Neo,

    Definitely not a scientific statement. Probability cannot be negative, which means the error bars of a confidence interval can never be centered on zero. But of course the media doesn’t know that.

    What else aren’t they telling us?

  6. Total quarantine NOW.

    I don’t care what the paperwork says, anyone coming in from west Africa goes straight to quarantine.

    %% %

    Sending in 3,000 Army vectors is total madness.

    Does the Pentagon have ANY guts?

  7. One does not have to be as blatant as Adolf Hitler or Josef Stalin: Barry can kill millions by doing nothing.

    It’s as if someone has muted the national alarm system.

  8. The “authorities” are hiding behind HIPAA, the qrotesque law for patient “Privacy” enacted in the Clinton era. This law was basically a sop to the homosexual/AIDS crowd. All patients must read and sign all kinds of crap in each and every health care office or facility they enter, keeping personal health care info private, authorizing info release only to named individuals. Everyone here knows this already, so why I bother?
    It is the paper makers’ subsidy bill. Its results are disgusting: if one of my children is injured as an adult in another town, no one there can tell me anything about his condition unless a release has been signed by the patient.

    That such privacy is daily violated by our government’s access to patient records is more than comical. The EMR (electronic medical record) will become hackers’ paradise.

  9. blert:

    Obama has been very consistent in failing to protect this country and its people.

    Anything that smacks of non-PC thought is unimaginable and undoable.

  10. Nigeria stopped its imported ebola outbreak, but they are not hamstrung by absurd civil rights.

  11. Time to deny access to anyone from Ebola affected African countries. Time to deny access to any Muslims from terror and terror supporting states.

    And time for each family to stockpile a few weeks of food and water to supply you through a quarantine.

    And time to wish anyone effected Godspeed.

  12. I must say that by this point, it’s high time for the Press to PANIC.

    I’ve already informed my kin to stock up and prepare for lock-down periods.

    These will come with no notice — in a panic — and the shelves will be absolutely bare.

    It will be “The Day After” without the radiation.

    Unlike nukes, ebola will persist like hard radiation.

    Based upon the 14th Century this pandemic — once it really gets rolling in the airports — will sweep the globe.

    All flights in and out of west Africa need to stop immediately.

    To heck with economic worries. West Africa is largely pre-modern. No-one there depends upon outside food or other inputs. The larger world does not depend upon west African exports.

    ONLY highly controlled communications can be permitted until the contagion is contained.

    Certainly, no-one should be allowed out until additional medicine is available in the First World.

    If Barry lets this disaster loose, he’ll destroy the Democrat party — and America — a real two-fer.

    He WILL be remembered. Stalin and Hitler will be forgotten: strictly small-timers… way under a billion souls.

    The happy press is talking up a 60% survival rate!

    Be glad!

    Let’s not focus on 40%-50% fatalities x the entire global population.

    Once it breaks out — it really will get everywhere.

    That’s what ebola does. It has no pity. It will not stop.
    It’s the Terminator microbe.

  13. Obama WANTS to transform America to a 3rd world State & he wants to arrange in so that a Democrat tyrant selected by the Democrat Machine will always be elected. Congress will be rendered irrelevant as we will be ruled via executive order. He is working at dispersing illegals & *refugees* to heartland communities & not merely large cities which are democrat strongholds.

  14. It’s as if they are intentionally using hospitals as the new center of viral dispersion, now that healthcare has destroyed people’s support options.

    http://www.staph-infection-resources.com/info/carrier/

    Children’s new “polio” like respiratory illness. Ebola. Mexican and Latin American bugs. Hospital superbugs. According to script, the Zombie Virus is next.

  15. “Hospitals have been helping to spread the virus – 240-plus health workers have been infected, including some of Sierra Leone’s top doctors and four U.S. workers. And Ebola patients are overwhelming hospitals in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, driving away patients with other conditions. ….“It is a very difficult to fight Ebola with a hospital,” Graham, who is president of Samaritan’s Purse, told NBC News. “The reason is that the Ebola got into the hospital and infected the hospital.” …It’s clear to Graham that large, centralized hospitals, where sick patients may expose many others before they are even seen, are not the answer to fighting Ebola. “My recommendation is the hospital has to be removed and separated quite a bit from Ebola,” he said. “There has to be better triage before you even let a person get into the hospital.”

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/are-hospitals-part-ebola-problem-charity-wants-new-strategy-n202486

  16. I’m afraid I have some more bad news for you:
    Erick Erickson from Red State has a radio show in Atlanta (home of the CDC), and someone claiming to be from the CDC had a few details that didn’t match the official version.
    Mainly, the man wasn’t discharged for two days until his return, but FOUR.
    http://www.redstate.com/2014/09/30/the-ebola-patient-and-a-call-to-my-show/
    Read the article and see if you think the guy’s credible.

    Four days while symptomatic is a very long time to be out and about.

  17. Meanwhile the Enterovirus-68 has spread to almost every state and is mutating to include polio-like symptoms. Officials here in CO, where there are 10 confirmed cases, provide little meaningful information – they’re just as baffled as the rest of us.
    Why on earth would we trust them to handle Ebola? Heck, they’re more interested in containing “climate change” than Ebola or Enterovirus-68.

    And isn’t it interesting that on the 26th Obama signed a memo for Liberian immigrants living in the United States without a visa that extends the US policy of “deferred enforced departure” that protects them from being sent back to Liberia for at least another two years. You’d think it might occur to him that this might encourage (sick or healthy) Liberians wanting to scape the outbreak to sneak into the country.

  18. The ones with guts at the Pentagon got fired back in the ol Hussein purge, like the Stalin purges.

    They were gearing up for something sooner or later.

  19. where sick patients may expose many others before they are even seen, are not the answer to fighting Ebola.

    They don’t have individual air filtration units for separate patients.

    Hospitals and centralized patient care has always been the ones in charge of producing superbugs like bacteria resistant viral phages. That doesn’t even make any sense, but neither do hospitals now a days.

  20. Ace has an interesting post about this.

    The question of airborne is still being argued. Airborne, as in being bourne on the air and carried to distant places, requires the virus to be viable on particulates that are lighter than air. If what carries the virus in the air falls to the ground, no. If the virus dies in a few minutes, or perhaps hours, in the air, it won’t travel very far to infect others. Although in subways, a few hours can go a long ways.

    If someone sneezes and Ebola falls on you from above, you think it was airborne but the medical boys say it isn’t.

    So there you go.

    What it means is keep your distance, wear masks and gloves, and don’t spread virus to yourself or others while sterilizing surfaces. Something is strange about the new Ebola, there might be a mutation that bypasses previous protections doctors used for Africa. So more information will come if Ebola has evolved a bypass attack.

  21. So this guy in Dallas could well be the index case.

    This kind of stuff, along with a lot of other betrayals by “our” government, puts me in mind of a sort of national rape, by those who are tasked with our protection.

    I don’t take any comfort from the idea that it isn’t airborne. That sounds a lot like the “you can’t get AIDS, don’t worry! it’s only transmissible by intimate sexual contact or using needles together!” Which wasn’t altogether true. Also, they were saying it before they knew any such thing, because protecting the homosexuals was more important to them than protecting the 98% of us who aren’t homosexual.

    And on and on…. Also, check out the Nova special on gram-negative superbugs: that will give you an idea of how hard it is to contain microbes.

  22. We need to hope and pray that this one case is contained because the hospital in Dallas where the Ebola patient was admitted is close to one of the busiest expressway traffic intersections in the US and it has a light rail stop less than a block away.

    I just returned home from four days in Dallas doing a routine annual medical check up in a hospital complex less than two miles from Presbyterian hospital with most of the docs having privileges at both hospitals. I was also thinking about how many people live and travel through the Dallas Metro area everyday and the number is in the millions.

    The state Fair of Texas is going on now and the DFW area plays host to all sorts of sporting events including the Oklahoma-Texas football game which will bring about half of Oklahoma to Texas in ten days. As usual that is a lot of people getting together, moving around touching, eating, drinking and then dispersing back home before they are aware they might be infected.

    I was talking to a woman this week who was moving back to Texas from the NYC area about how friendly we are and how Texans are hand shakers and huggers and we tend to visit with strangers standing in lines in restaurants and grocery stores. That being said I think we now have the potential to have a ‘perfect storm’ of inadvertent germ warfare.

    I live five hours away from Dallas guess I will go stock up on more food and supplies today just in case Ebola escapes its confinement. This next week could be a bad one.

  23. “Another curious statement is that the others ‘will be watched.’ They actually should be placed in quarantine, but my strong suspicion is that this will not happen.”

    About 90 minutes ago, a blog post at freerepublic linked to local DFW radio reoirt, stating that at least one other has indeed contracted Ebola. If so, there are now two infections – not one.

  24. A CNN news person who just returned from Liberia said this morning that no one checked her health status when she came into the U.S.

  25. There’s a lot of mutated strains of anti bacterial resistant diseases in America’s hospitals. When Ebola comes into contact with them, while being treated, the death toll for current Ebola might not exceed 40-50%, given the strength and nutrition of modern day Americans. But wait until you see what nature can put out in bioware when combined with decades of bacteria mutations. There might be something interesting there.

    Even bio warfare labs have hadn’t the same time to mutate and configure diseases like this.

  26. I saw part of the press conference yesterday by the head of the CDC, and I’ve got to say this guy was not the usual incompetent Administration freak, and he had a very calm and authoritative delivery.
    However, some of his answers to questions were not reassuring; as he tried to calm things down by downplaying the extent of this patient’s exposure to others and, thus, the potential scope of the threat.

    Reports say British Airways has slapped a temporary embargo on flying into or out of at least one African country where there is Ebola, but the U.S. has not done the same.

    Asked how African airports are screening passengers so they don’t get on planes if they are likely to have Ebola, he mentioned something about some airports taking people’s temperatures, or asking them questions. Given the chaos the reigns in Africa, and the slipshod nature of much there, I am not reassured.

    Then, there was his insistence that anyone who had been exposed to this guy before he developed symptoms–that meant he was now contagious–had virtually no chance of catching Ebola.

    Do I really believe that “the science is settled” on the question of contagion being solely due to contact with bodily fluids? No, not really, because FOX news reported on the case of an American obstetrician in Africa, none of whose patients had Ebola, yet, he came down with it.

    Finally, he just skipped over and did not explore the implications of this patient having gone to a local hospital for treatment and being returned to his relatives with some antibiotics two days before he got much more ill, went back to a different hospital, was recognized as possibly having Ebola, and was immediately put into quarantine.

    The CDC director gave the impression that, when he was contagious, the patient only had contact with his family members, who were the ones most likely to have been infected with Ebola. But, what about that first hospital visit?

    How did the patient get to and from the first hospital? Did his relatives drive him, or did he use a cab or public transportation? We weren’t told.
    Did our Ebola carrier sit for any length of time in a busy public waiting room, where countless patients, visitors and staff came in and out? How about a smaller waiting room? How about all the medical personnel who he came into close contact with, the people he passed in the hall, and did he use the bathroom at any point? Did he do any visiting or eating out?

    None of these questions were even mentioned.

  27. Now arriving in the U.S. on a daily basis: polio,tuberculosis, Chikungunga, enterovirus, and the newest member Ebola…

    There is no substitute for open borders..
    (wait till the EU realizes that their open borders has similar people running around as well)

  28. So much incompetence. But we knew that. What amazes me is that the fundamental reason for the Federal government’s existence is to protect our borders and interests. They are now collecting record revenues while amassing debt in record amounts and employees living like royalty. These matters are not complicated, but they have made it so. FAIL!!

  29. From today’s USA Today story:

    “Stanley Gaye, president of the Liberian Community Association of Dallas-Fort Worth, said the 10,000-strong Liberian population in North Texas is skeptical of the CDC’s assurances because Ebola has ravaged their country.

    “We’ve been telling people to try to stay away from social gatherings,” Gaye said at a community meeting Tuesday. Large get-togethers are a prominent part of Liberian culture.”

    TEN THOUSAND??

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