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  1. I’ve read in a history book (can’t remember which one) that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem had encouraged Hitler to enact “the final solution”.

  2. The Grnad Mufti spent WWII in Berlin as a guest of Hitler and made daily propaganda broadcasts to the Muslim world.

  3. Neo
    But anti-Semitism had has root in history in EU much more earlier also was virulent before the 1930s, and Nazi propaganda.

    In fact the Nazi born from from that past and its not due islam or Mufti as some put it!

  4. Jews have been leaving Europe in ever larger numbers for the past 10 years. Bho has been focused like a laser on an anti – Israel policy. Will Jews ever learn that the left despise them?

  5. Let’s not overlook the role Christian anti-Semitism played in the Middle East as well, especially the Damascus blood libel that happened way back in 1840:

    On February 5, 1840, Capuchin friar Thomas, an Italian who had long resided in Damascus, disappeared together with his Muslim servant Ibrahim ʿAmāra. The monk was known to have been involved in shady business and the two men were probably murdered by tradesmen with whom Thomas had quarreled. Nonetheless, the Capuchins immediately circulated news that Jews had murdered both men in order to use their blood for Passover.

    And then the thing took off like wild fire, and not just in the Middle East:

    What caused extraordinary anxiety among the Jews of the West in 1840 was not only the danger facing their co-religionists in the Middle East but also, and probably even more, the fact that the accusation of ritual murder in Damascus was initially accepted as proven fact by almost the entire press in the constitutional states of Continental Europe.

  6. Japan–The book was written by a Rabbi.
    The Myth of Hitler’s Pope: Pope Pius XII And His Secret War Against Nazi Germany

    From a review:

    Other themes of the book include a biography of Pius XII and a critique of the Islamic Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who Dalin accuses of extensive anti-Semitsm, and proponent of Hitler’s final solution. He tells us that the Mufti was the mentor of Yasser Arafat who served the Mufti as an assistant.

  7. Japan:

    Of course European anti-Semitism has a more ancient lineage, as Krauthammer indicates. I’m certainly not suggesting that Muslim anti-Semitism in the 30s caused European anti-Semitism. Quite the opposite.

    As Lewis points out, Muslim anti-Semitism existed before the Nazis, but it was a milder thing, at least in practice. It became more virulent after, as a result of Nazi influence.

  8. Why leave out the Commies?

    Arafat was a creature stuffed with Soviet boons.

    Islamism = Islam + Communism. 30/70

    Islamists, virtually to a man, are running with Marxism as their ‘new wave’ economic scheme.

    Mo’s system of plundering caravans does not compute for the modern age.

    &&&

    Pamela has posted that the Grand Mufti granted Adolf a fatwa (religious sanction) but was residing next door to the Wannsee Conference — when it was being held.

    (!)

    Further the MB, ever since the 50’s has been PRIMARILY focused on anti-Americanism; which tops even its anti-Semitism. (!)

    No wonder that the MB sees common cause with Barry Soetoro.

    Get a load of the latest confab between Barry’s State Department and the MB!

    http://freebeacon.com/national-security/open-jihad-declared-in-egypt-following-state-dept-meeting-with-muslim-brotherhood-aligned-leaders/

    The boy is CONSTANTLY throwing crude onto the fire.

    &&&

    neo…

    The MB started off as an anti-woman, anti-British ethos.

    It had zilch traction.

    THEN the Nazis juiced it up with money and a shifted creed: anti-British, anti-colonialism, and anti-Semitism.
    And money was tossed around — with propaganda art straight from Berlin — as needs be.

    ( Nazis as anti-colonials — it’s a hoot. Just remember, with Adolf all policies shift to suit the moment [ Like B.S. ] and normally turn on a dime. Before the end, even ‘sub-humans’ were drafted into the Waffen SS!)

    By the early 60’s the Soviets had ENTIRELY filled the Nazis former role.

    Arafat was off to Moscow. The new patron was flush with hatred.

    ( It’s significant that this shift occurred AFTER Nikita lost to the ‘rocket boy’ Brezhnev. Khrushchev, a ‘southern boy’ couldn’t stand blatant anti-Semitism; of which he accused Stalin.)

    The Nazis have been totally discredited.

    Not so the Communists. (!)

    Just because Uncle Joe was attacked by his ALLY (Adolf) it does not follow that his anti-Nazi periods (pre 1939 and post 1941) shifted him a bit on his fear and loathing of Jews and Judaism.

    ( Whereas Stalin was able to pervert the Orthodox Church and the few Roman Churches with KGB priests — there was no conceivable way to stop Jews from holding services. Judaism has a virtually flat hierarchy: no Pope, no bishops. Thus the paranoid mind does roam. )

    For Stalin every shul was a conspiracy!

    Above all: Jews are taught to study and think for themselves. Such an ethos is entirely contrary to Stalinism.

    It’s not for nothing that the two-minute hate of Orwell was against: Emmanuel Goldstein !

    Hint, hint.

  9. Europe’s place as the center and fulcrum of the Jewish world has been inherited by Israel…

    But has it really? Yes, Israel is the Jewish homeland for historical, geographical, and cultural reasons, and is and has been the go-to place for refugees from persecution against Jews, but population-wise more Jews live here in the US than anywhere else, including Israel. About half of the world’s Jewish population lives in the US, and aside from Israel itself, no other country anywhere is even close to the US. Both California and New York each have a larger Jewish population than the entire European Union. Florida’s population is larger than that of France; Illinois’s is larger than Great Britain’s. And so on. I say all in all Jews have voted with their feet, and this is where they call home.

  10. Amen, Charles the Great Krauthammer!!

    And, thank you, N-Neo for the Dr. Bernard Lewis book info. I have many of the books of the greatest historian of the Arabs, but somehow was unaware of that one. I’ll order it this very day. Dr. Lewis was the (quietly done) guest many times to the Oval Office during President Bush’s 2-terms. Wonder how many invites the great Princeton scholar has had from Obama…. Never mind..!

  11. NeoConScum:

    Lewis is still alive, but he’s close to 100 at present. I wonder how his health has held up. Haven’t seen much from him in quite some time.

  12. Neo said:
    “As Lewis points out, Muslim anti-Semitism existed before the Nazis, but it was a milder thing, at least in practice. It became more virulent after, as a result of Nazi influence.”

    There is no question that the Nazis encouraged Islamic anti-Semitism but that is far from the entire story. The Muslims allowed Jew to live among themselves as second class dhimmis for centuries and tolerated them as long as they accepted their status as a humiliated despised people who lived without normal legal protections. This social order was ordained up by Allah himself.

    When European Jews began to emigrate to Israel they set up a society in which Jews and Muslims both had full legal rights. To Muslims, Jews who act as if they are equal are defying Allah since Allah has decreed that Jews are not equal. When the Jews defended themselves against the Muslim aggressors and won that was even worse. That is not how things are supposed to be. According to Allah the Muslims are supposed to dominate over the Jews and to be victorious in all cases.

  13. “Islamists, virtually to a man, are running with Marxism as their ‘new wave’ economic scheme.”

    However, if you look at the list of Old Bolsheviks So the father & mastermind of of Marxism, is Lenin!, There is even evidence that he was definitely more proud of his Jewish roots than future generations of Communists would ever let on.

    Was Lenin Jewish?
    http://www.jewishideasdaily.com/743/features/was-lenin-jewish/

  14. “Muslim anti-Semitism existed before the Nazis, but it was a milder thing, at least in practice. It became more virulent after, as a result of Nazi influence.”

    Muslim against Jew as been the story ever since Muhamed took dictation from Allah. That it was a “milder thing” until 85 years ago is kinda immaterial. Kinda like “the murder rate was lower then than now.”

  15. Agreement always justifies prejudice, so too with Muslims and the Nazis. But history records significant antisemitism in Palestine before the Nazis rose to power. I suspect it can be traced back to the British Mandate for Palestine, in 1922.

    “The Balfour Declaration (dated 2 November 1917) was a letter from the United Kingdom’s Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Baron Rothschild (Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild), a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.

    “His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

    The text of the letter was published in the press one week later, on 9 November 1917. The “Balfour Declaration” was later incorporated into the Sé¨vres peace treaty with the Ottoman Empire and the Mandate for Palestine.”

    The Mandate made official what had previously been seen as a possibility. I suspect the reason it fueled and accelerated antisemitism in the Muslim world is because of the Islamic tenet that once land is part of the Ummah it must ever remain so. That reaction was exacerbated by the Jew’s entirely valid historical claim to Israel. By 1948, the powder keg was set to explode and did when Israel declared itself. The Israeli/Palestinian conflict is an example of an irresistible force meeting an immovable object.

  16. Addendum; arguably, antisemitism is by far the world’s most widespread prejudice. I suspect it is strongly connected to mankind’s equally widespread opposition to the divine. Which may be the only prejudice that surpasses it. An awful lot of people are angry at God, especially if he actually exists.

  17. But history records significant antisemitism in Palestine before the Nazis rose to power.

    In fact it gose deeper in history of this matter we can say easily its gos back more that 2500 years ago in Babylon by also Egypt Roman and thereafter that till our days, isn’t?

  18. J.R. at 8:05 asked the question
    “Was Lenin Jewish”?

    The article linked was good. After reading the article I’m convinced that although Lenin had a Jewish grandfather he himself was not especially Jewish. It would be interesting to read a more extensive scholarly article on the subject which covers the background of all the Bolshevik leaders.

  19. Dennis says: “although Lenin had a Jewish grandfather he himself was not especially Jewish.” Which is it, a race or a religion?

  20. I wouldn’t go so far as to apply the term “race” to Jews but as I understand Judaism the term Jew means both a clan and a religion.

    Lenin’s connection to Jews by ancestry was apparently rather meager. His state of mind, whether he identified as a Jew at some level, is harder to evaluate. At this point, unless something more comes out, it appears unlikely that Lenin’s ancestry or his religious background had much to do with his actions.

  21. …but if the left has anything to say about it, that won’t remain true for long.

    And curiously, Jews have been over represented on the left for a very long time. When I read ridiculous lefty articles, like as not, the author in Jewish. I swear, it is a death wish. I think it no coincidence that that concept was invented by a Jew.

  22. I had a Muslim friend in medical school (at least I considered him a friend at the time) who was very vocal about how much he hated Jews, especially the other Jewish students. He refused to talk to them or sit near them in class or lab. Being a full-fledged liberal at the time, I somehow dismissed this behavior, believing it to be a big joke. Like Colbert pretends to be a conservative on his show, I thought this Muslim student was “acting” like a stereotypical anti-Semitic Muslim as a gag. Others felt the same way as me–even the Jews he was openly hostile to! After his “family trip” to Pakistan when he returned with a full beard, a wife, and refused to speak with any of us again, I realized it wasn’t an act and woke up to the horror that is Islam.

  23. Ann writes,
    “Let’s not overlook the role Christian anti-Semitism played in the Middle East as well…”
    _______________________________________
    Hell, why stop at 1840? Why not look at incidents and examples in the first millennia?
    My point is merely that if you are going to slog through history, as you desire to, it is a self-destructive exercise.
    No one is perfect. No one.
    It is very much part of the human condition.
    However, America’s Christians should really NOT be equated with European Christians, particularly going back as you’d prefer.

    Ann——-one could spend a few moments focusing on the sacrifices European Christians made in WWII while saving Jews?
    One could even list European priests who put their lives at risk in hiding Jews from the Nazis.
    Individual stories (many) of Christians doing same.
    I’ll spare you. For it seems that you want to go in a far different direction.

    It might do you well to focus on the here and now. In America. Where many Jews (rational ones) consider themselves treated far better than anytime in history, in any country that ever existed. America, a country founded on Judeo-Christian principles and where the separation of Church and state has resulted in an experiment that has consistently shown its willingness to other accept Jews as it does any group.
    E Pluribus Unum.
    Liberty.
    In God We Trust.
    Uniquely American in its ideals.
    And LARGELY Christian.
    And as respectful to Jews as it is to any group.
    Perfect? Nope.

    Dennis Prager, a devout Jew, says it much better than me:
    http://www.jewishjournal.com/dennis_prager/article/why_has_america_treated_jews_so_well_20100824

  24. Charles Krauthammer, another individual who “came to his senses” while jettisoning his emotive and childish Liberalism. I enjoy every utterance, every written word by him.
    How deliciously fascinating, those people who’ve gone through this metamorphosis.
    _______________________________________

    Just a short list of ENLIGHTENED individuals; those who were immersed in Liberal ideas, notions, LIES, misrepresentations, and immaturity—-only to emerge from this muddled mindset to embrace a more rational, reasoned political perspective:

    David Horowitz
    Dennis Prager
    Michael Medved
    Ronald Reagan
    Norman Podhoretz
    George Orwell
    Dennis Miller
    Jon Voigt
    Irving Kristol
    Kirk Cameron
    Evan Sayet
    Ron Silver

    Again, only a partial list…

  25. not to mention,
    Milton Friedman
    Wm. Randolph Hearst
    Alveda King
    Seymour Martin Lipset
    Ray Bradbury
    Saul Bellow
    Anthony Flew
    Raymond Moley, FDR’s “Brains Trust” top advisor.

  26. Respectfully, Neoneocon might consider a thread on Jerusalem’s right to sovereignty—an issue shrouded in IGNORANCE, misinformation, LIES.
    So much of today’s anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism is based in the absolute ignorance surrounding the formation of Israel as a country in 1948——-and——–the granting of its rights and “title” decades earlier.
    Something that, “was already decided” decades earlier in Article 22 of The Covenant Of The LEAGUE OF NATIONS. Comprised of, The British Empire, France, Italy, Japan, and USA.
    Legally.
    Under binding resolution in International Law.
    Sacred.

    It’s all cleared up here by Dr. Jacque P. Gauthier, a non-Jew. And International Law Scholar & Human Rights Attorney. One who has spent over a quarter century studying JUST THIS ISSUE:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf8cF1HYqN8

  27. The United States was never a member of the League of Nations. There was not support in the Senate for Pres. Wilson’s dream. It’s widely posited that the League’s failure was due to the absence of American participation. Conversely, that is why the Soviet Union (and later China) was included in the five permanent members with veto power in the UN Security Council.

  28. That’s correct. America was never a member. We were among the five Principal Allied and Associated Powers:
    The United States, the British Empire, France, Italy and Japan.

  29. GB: Your remark yesterday is wonderfully wry: “An awful lot of people are angry at God, especially if he actually exists.” In the event, “God help them” may be inoperative.

  30. kane Says:

    I had a Muslim friend…. who was very vocal about how much he hated Jews, especially the other Jewish students.

    Kane I wonder your “Muslim” friend what he think about you?
    Why he chose you as his friend? i hope he did it tell you you’re are infidel?
    If so why he sits and talks to you BUT not to Jews?

    First judging a complete faith a behavior of one man, it’s something need to be addressed here and be clear a misjudgment in first place

  31. And yet so very many American Jews insist on ignoring the threat of Muslim anti-semitism and the really ugly Leftist anti-semitism, while straining at every ghost of a gnat of right-wing or Christian anti-semitism in America. For them the menace is never ISIS or Al-Qaeda, but the vast phantom lynch-mob army of Protestant fundamentalists lurking behind the shrubbery outside the safe zones of the Northeast and California.

    Muslims bombing synagogues and beheading Jews, Occupy protestors holding up vicious antisemitic caricatures — meh. But if some town in Kansas wants to put a cross up on the courthouse lawn for Easter Sunday: THE POGROM IS COMING!

  32. Trimegistus:

    Most Jews in America these days who are actually Jews and not just people born of Jewish parents or Jewish grandparents are well aware that in general it’s Christians who are their best friends.

  33. “It’s not for nothing that the two-minute hate of Orwell was against: Emmanuel Goldstein !”

    Yes; but more specifically, “Emmanuel Goldstein” was meant to represent Lev Davidovich Bronshtein (AKA Leon Trotsky).

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