April 22nd, 2015

What was that Obama said about flexibility?

The following came up recently, and I thought it important enough to merit its very own post.

Remember this moment back in March of 2012?:

Mr Medvedev, who steps down in May, said he would pass on Mr Obama’s message to his successor Vladimir Putin, according to an audio recording of comments the two leaders made during a meeting in Seoul, South Korea.

Mr Obama says: “On all these issues, but particularly missile defence, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space.”

Mr Medvedev replies: “Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you …”

Mr Obama retorts: “This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.”

Americans knew about this statement of Obama’s prior to the 2012 election. Why didn’t it seem important? It probably did to most of the people who read this blog, because it fit into their already-existent framework of knowledge and opinion about Obama’s philosophy, plans, and activities. As for me, I had already predicted back in
November of 2010 that if Obama were to be elected to a second term in 2012, it would be a no-holds-barred radical one, exactly for the reason he mentioned to Medvedev, which is that he no longer would have to stand for re-election.

The Obama statement to Medvedev tells you something important, which is that Obama knew that the things he was planning to do in a second term would be very unpopular with the American people. Therefore he was planning to keep the voters in the dark about some of his intentions until after his re-election. His election and re-election were founded on a conscious and deliberate deception (or series of deceptions) perpetrated upon the American people.

This may seem obvious. It was even obvious then. But I think it needs to be made absolutely explicit. And it’s in light of that knowledge that no one should be surprised that Obama lied strategically about Iran’s breakthrough time.

It’s funny, isn’t it, how the same people so incensed about their notion that Bush lied about the presence of WMDs in Iraq (although he did not lie; to lie about something you have to know the truth and misrepresent it) are just fine with Obama’s actual lies.

10 Responses to “What was that Obama said about flexibility?”

  1. Ymarsakar Says:

    Zombies don’t care about lies to begin with. They are undead. If the necros tell them to worship Bush, they’ll worship Bush. If the necros tell them to hate Bush, they’ll hate Bush. They are obeying their orders because that is all they can do for Hussein.

  2. Artfldgr Says:

    Neo Says: Americans knew about this statement of Obama’s prior to the 2012 election. Why didn’t it seem important?

    The answer is a key reason history repeats…

    Ultimately, the point is that until the deed is done and it’s a horror, no one wants to do anything. they hold on to the idea of riding on the razors edge and not falling into the canyon.

    Think about it… you can do all the things that Hitler did, up and to the final thing that would damn him, and no one would damn you till you crossed that Rubicon.

    As long as the leftist does not prove the point until they have power enough that it doesn’t matter what people know, that person is not considered to be following the negative, but seems that way.

    It’s a case of refusing to believe the negative so that one can achieve the state of not having to do anything!!!
    This is why despotism is so prevalent: good women don’t do anything about it

    [Us good men are no longer part of the game and no longer matter… see demographics vs voting]

    In the past several presidential elections, more women vote for liberal Democrats than did men. On the inverse, more men voted for conservative Republicans than did women.

    March 19-21, 2008 revealed that 53% of women favored Barack Obama to only 46% of men. [there are also more women than men, so 53% of a higher number, neutralizes and erased 46% of a lower number]

    when you combine this with the minority vote, the illegal minority vote, the voting patterns of the dead, the multiple votes… there is no other outcome possible…

    its only AFTER things get wrecked that the delusional class changes their mind, albeit temporarily.

    and they ARE the delusional class…
    Rub yourself with fruit, it makes you younger
    [ugly fruit wont make you pretty, but aesthetically pleasing fruit will]

    they are just like men, so they can be marines, and pass the tests like men (when demonstrated they cant, they change the rules, then hollar nyah nyah they beat them!)

    you can put off having babies and not be barren

    you can raise the minumum wage, but that doesnt apply to the woman watching your kid.

    you can do better in school than men, but only if they disenfranchise your competition

    they are as tough as men, which is why the internet, tv, magazines and such are to blame for their shizo existence. [note that they also cant put those harmful things down either]

    Delusions of Gender was shortlisted for the Victorian Premier’s Literary Award for Non-Fiction 2011, The Best Book of Ideas Prize 2011, The John Llewellyn Rhys Prize 2010 and the Warwick Prize 2013.

    here is one there are lots of articles on:
    your single because of your career

    Being right on the line for Gen X and the Millenials, I’ve heard the phrase, “I’m single because I’ve been working so hard on my career” often. It’s staggering how many women are so focused on their career yet America is in the middle of a depression.

    funny… but they are better than men, have better skills, the newspaper reports they are better managers, better multitaskers, better with children, better leaders of companies, better voters, and on and on and on. but equal

    how can they be better at all that, be in business and the country be less productive than it was, and more of a mess than it was, and more children in poverty and all that, if they are that much better?

    Delusions of American Women: You’re Single Because of Your Career

    its quite simple… they are voting for this stuff…

    they vote to harm their mates, to hate the society they are in, to achieve communism, to be solid with what a few women claim all the others do, etc.

    and the state pays them off to validate their beliefs.

    ALL this is a womans issue…
    it hasnt been a mans world for a long long time.
    if it was, women would not be so much akin to hookers
    children would not be in poverty… the constitution would not be torn up to make a socialist utopian police state that pretends to favor women, etc.

    the whole of lefts politics is defined by womens issues.

    and us men? we are not allowed to comment, oppose, or do much of anything. we are incompetent racist malcontents… dont ya know.

    discussing this stuff with the people who have no ability to do a thing about it, and not discuss it with the young women who control academia, childrens education, police arrests, political freebies, etc…. is silly

  3. Artfldgr Says:

    care to see a video of women half naked spitting in the face of men who are people who dont hit women?

    Topless, swastika-bearing feminists assault praying en
    Chanting, “Get your rosaries out of our ovaries,” a mob of pro-abortion feminists – many of whom were topless with Nazi swastikas on their chests and foreheads – attacked and sexually molested a group of Roman Catholic men who were praying as they stood outside a cathedral in Argentina to protect it from threats of vandalism

    in our modern society, only blacks can do anything about blacks, only women can do something about women..

    us white men and such discussing it is a farce…
    we are the targets and society will jump on us even if we are right. so its all up to you ladies.

    Reaction To Women Abusing Men In Public

    we seen what people do when a man abuses a woman, but now see (since 2008) what happens when a woman abuses a man

    what if the victim was the man, not the woman…
    abusing and assaulting the man

    go ahead… take a look…

    and if you look on blogs..
    Re: Reaction to Women Abusing Men in Public (ABC News Vid)
    I need a guy to beat up right about now… ive hit plenty of guys before, hell ive been in full out fights with a few, and they still whined like idiots afterwards… they pissed me off enough to NEED a punch in the face, they deserved it… Throwing things and aiming for the head also works…

    so sorry…
    there is nothing to be done
    as there is no one to support the people who would act

    they would find themselves standing alone on the feild of battle wondwring how they became william wallace.

  4. Artfldgr Says:

    here is one of the exceptions… though the subject is not obama and his lies, and so on… its about the male female thing… of which, men are now like Brad Majors in Shock Treatment, etc…

    she has lots of vids on such things

    Men not marrying? How deep does “the problem” go?

    its a microcosm of what alienates the people who would defend… but why defend that which treats you like that?

  5. Eric Says:

    Neo: “This may seem obvious. It was even obvious then. But I think it needs to be made absolutely explicit.”

    The all-important Narrative contest for the zeitgeist of the activist game.

    If “obvious” was sufficient for social movement, then we wouldn’t resort to adversarial trials.

  6. Artfldgr Says:

    I was remis in not pointing out that the video i posted last was not just one of those thinking sane non delusional women…but that she has a message as to thing…

    she brings up the white feather
    and noted that this allowed women to shame men to die
    but she also pointed out that if they did go, and they survived they came back with respect.

    shaming them to be something that later gets no respect, does not get them to action. it does not get them to try to preserve the society, or go to war, or fight for what women didnt realize that they need

    this is why the left did this
    so when time of such crisis as this come
    there is no reason for the men to act

    after all, they are being hated and belittled for the society that they created.
    what would happen to them if they broke down the door and decided to save it (ie render it back towards that past)
    they would be less respected.

    so standing aside and letting the women define the new society and remold it the way they want (which is the way they been told by the apexsexuals), causes men to bail and let it happen…..

    she is very insightful as to it, as its all the same forces that apply

    obamas change of the military is to remove the respect that men get from going there and fighting and all that.

    if that happens, then it will be up to women, and gays to fight the next fight… are they ready for that, or are they really there to get the GI bill type stuff and a job, and so on… After all, women who cant pass the courses are still wearing uniforms and getting respect, while the men they are with get spit on, drummed out, told they are predators, etc

    this process has gone from one male bastion to another, from family, to clubs, to gyms, to bathrooms, to societies, frat houses, offices and work, sports, and now the military and society in general…

    they wont oppose the women
    and the women wont let capitalism and all that exist
    end of story, end of game, etc.

    you can bet that the woman in the video gets attacked a lot by other women… but she at least is well thought, interesting, and a lot of other positive terms i can think of… (at least in her vids).

  7. Geoffrey Britain Says:

    Ah but neo, some lies are more ‘equal’ than other lies. And of course, the determinant factor is whether the lie is ‘justified’ by the end sought. Evil always has an excuse.

  8. Nolanimrod Says:

    Well, he did say he was going to fundamentally transform America. The media never pressed him on How. They can be faulted for not doing it and we can, to some extent, be faulted for not demanding they do it.

    He is doing his best to keep his word. But fundamental transformation can be any kind of radical change. The Black Death fundamentally changed Western Europe.

    Personally, I think the United States of America is a very good place. Good for its own people, good for the world.

    I don’t think that will continue if the media and the education establishment continue their relentless campaign of anti-American and pro-Communist propaganda. And let’s call a spade a spade here; when somebody starts yammering about Capitalism! or Income Inequality! he is not a ‘Leftist;’ he is a Communist.

    I grew up in the archetypal American Middle Class community. For me the TV show Happy Days is not a sitcom but, rather, an embarrassment.

    And yet the propaganda in jr, high and high school was non-stop. Lincoln’s Reconstruction program would have ushered in the Millennium were it not for those evil Radical Republicans. The Treaty of Versailles would have ushered in the Millennium were it not for those evil Radical Republicans. The Depression was conquered by the Democrats. The crusade to save liberty called WWII was prosecuted and won by the Democrats who triumphed over the Isolationist Republicans.

    This was in Tucson, Arizona. Yet in 1964 when Arizona’s senator ran for President the surest laugh-line at Palo Verde High School was Barry Goldwater.

    When my daughter went to middle school her teacher gave her an article to report on which PROVED that America was intentionally starving and poisoning Third World children.

    Sooner or later that sort of thing is going to leave a mark.

  9. G6loq Says:

    FDR, once, twice, thrice, quadrice(?)….
    Obama, TWICE!

    The founding fathers didn’t intend universal suffrage…
    In the case of Obama and retinue, there is no excuse. The info was out there aplenty.

    There.are.no.excuses in the planet earth system as it is.
    Something has to give. …TWANLOC must go!

    “An enlightened citizenry is indispensable for the proper functioning of a republic. Self-government is not possible unless the citizens are educated sufficiently to enable them to exercise oversight. It is therefore imperative that the nation see to it that a suitable education be provided for all its citizens.” Jefferson

  10. mf Says:

    Deceit is the leftist’s most valuable weapon. And now the same thing is going on with Hillary, Warren and O’Malley. They mean to take us down a dark path where they really go after the capitalists. They mean to control all production in this country if not the world. There is much ruin in a nation and they mean to test those limits. There will be “conservatives” who will be hard pressed to not vote for an anti-bankster, anti-Hamiltonian candidate. The ground work has been laid. That marxian hatred of capital and finance is in the very air we breathe. We will be suckered again, unless. Who amongst us can honestly say they are not covetous of the rich?

    Perhaps our eyes will be averted from the slaughter that looms. I know I will not want to watch, not that it will be easy to find. Who saw the Holodomor when it happened? The NYT received a Pulitzer for averting their gaze.

    So grow up already and recognize that 99% of what you read in the popular economic press is flat out untrue. But do read up on economics for you will be lost without a basic understanding.

    First thing to recognize is that no, we are not going to go bellyup all of a sudden. The decline will be long and slow. Our solons have learned something about controlling an economy. They have had lots of opportunity for practice over the last century. And the Fed has its good and bad aspects but despite what we may wish and what might be best, it is not going away. I remind you that this was Milton Friedman’s position. He would have liked to live in a world without a Fed but in the real world we have something called war. Tell me, how do you finance a war without the capability of printing money and how do you survive if you cannot fight a war? BTW, this is how Keynes sold his economic theories and all the while he was knowingly digging a grave for the British Empire. There was some truth in his theories. But of course we all recall that he said “in the long run we are all dead” which begs the question: why not borrow from our progeny for today’s comforts? The answer of course is that way leads ro civilizational decline. A quote I read once about Keynes said (paraphrasing): “There was never a room into which he walke where he was not the cleverest there”. He was a Fabian socialist just like the Clintons and others extant today. What is a Fabian socialist? A communist who wants to go slow. They have bided their time for decades while they built their totalitarian structures. They are now ready to take the next step. That being to take over the economy as totally as possible.

    It would help if people became somewhat more facile in understanding markets and property and their connection to liberty.

    Try reading Friedman and Bastiat and Kevin Williamson from NRO. Also try Cafe Hayek.

    And finally, as I enjoin you to study economics I will remind you that communism and capitalism both are products of the same enlightenment era. We have seen that one gets more stuff than the other, but this is not the only point or even the main one. Until we recognize that the world is filled with pain and that is a constant for ever and ever, we will continue to miss the point and continue to lose to evil.

    No one spelled out our dilemma better than Whittaker Chanbers:

    “The crisis of Communism exists to the degree in which it has failed to free the peoples that it rules from God. Nobody knows this better than the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. The crisis of the Western World exists to the degree in which it is indifferent to God. It exists to the degree in which the Western world actually shares Communism’s materialist vision, is so dazzled by the logic of the materialist interpretation of history, politics and economics that it fails to grasp that, for it, the only possible answer to the Communist challenge: Faith in God or Faith in Man? is the challenge: Faith in God.

    Economics is not the central problem of this century. It is a relative problem which can be solved in relative ways. Faith is the central problem of this age. The western world does not know it, but it already possesses the answer to this problem – but only provided that its faith in God and the freedom He enjoins is as great as Communism’s Faith in Man.”

    And yes folks, we are fighting communism of the international variety. Better start calling a spade a spade because you cannot defeat it unless you so do.

    Of course, Whittaker Chambers felt he had joined the losing side. Perhaps he was right. But so what? You cannot see the future. You can only travel along the road towards it.

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