April 25th, 2015

Bruce Jenner: coming out

Bruce Jenner’s interview with Diane Sawyer last night (which I did not watch) revealed to the last three people in the world who didn’t already know it that he is transgendered and considers himself a woman.

That announcement seems to have been taken rather well by a world that seems more interested in the Kardashians and their doings than I think they should be, and I wish him luck—he’ll need it.

Jenner got some hateful responses, though, for—get ready for it—announcing in the same interview that he is (gasp!) a Republican.

If he’d asked me, I would have told him to tread carefully there and to expect a lot of flak. Coming out as a Republican is still the sin that cannot be forgiven.

57 Responses to “Bruce Jenner: coming out”

  1. Ed Bonderenka Says:

    Not good for the Repub brand.

  2. Wooly Bully Says:

    I must be one of those last three people. Didn’t know; don’t care.

  3. George Pal Says:

    The zeitgeist is accommodative. Transgendered and transpicuous – it’s a short commute.

  4. charles Says:

    Since I don’t really follow the lives of celebs this wasn’t really all that interesting to me.

    However, when I read (on another blog) about the hateful tweets because he claimed to be more Republican than Liberal I read more.

    Well, now I know why the Kardashians are famous! I never knew they were a part of his family. So, it wasn’t just the Kardashians being famous for being famous. They seemed to have gotten their start from his earned famed.

  5. Geoffrey Britain Says:

    I haven’t followed the Jenner story as I have little interest but I did catch the headline at Breitbart that Jenner had revealed himself to be both a Republican and a Christian. I would imagine that Jenner explains his trans-gender by claiming to have finally come to terms with being “a woman in a man’s body”.

    What I do find of interest is that if Jenner claims to be ‘a woman in a man’s body’, then a contradiction arises in his claiming to also be a Christian. For regardless of whether God disapproves, approves or is indifferent to Jenner’s transgender, if Jenner claims to be ‘a woman in a man’s body’ and also a Christian then Jenner is claiming that God makes mistakes… [oops] in which case how can God be worthy of veneration?

  6. Phil Ossiferz Stone Says:

    He’s not ‘trans’ anything. He’s mentally ill and he’s decided to sexually mutilate himself. And our society has been so benumbed that we — even his own family — are supposed to stand around and encourage his illness and applaud his mutilation with frozen smiles on our faces.

    Not me. Not any more.

  7. AesopFan Says:

    God doesn’t “make mistakes” but people often do.

    He’s mentally ill and he’s decided to sexually mutilate himself.

    No cite ready at hand, but I have read that some psychology professionals who used to support transgender surgery and treatments have recanted.

  8. Ann Says:

    And E! just confirmed he’s in a new series documenting his transition; it starts July 26. If we’re really lucky, he’ll transition not just from male to female, but also from Republican to Democrat right in front of our eyes.

    Hooray for Hollywood!

    /sarc

  9. neo-neocon Says:

    AesopFan and Phil Ossiferz Stone:

    Actually, in his interview Jenner made it clear he is not having sex reassignment surgery. Although he doesn’t completely rule it out in the future, he does not plan to have it.

    So the sexual mutilation of which you speak is not relevant in this case.

  10. parker Says:

    Its high time we begin calling people like Jenner confused puppies. We have been subjected to a tsunami of people identifying as transgender, when I think they are in reality 0.000001 % of the population.

  11. Matthew Says:

    I never understood sex reassignment, but then I never understood why people get nose jobs. It’s better to accept the way you are. That Jenner went through dozens of face lifts before this seems to confirm my belief.

    Now, I don’t think that sex reassignment should be say banned. In the end, people have to make their own choices, but I believe I can have my own opinions about it too.

  12. AesopFan Says:

    Actually, in his interview Jenner made it clear he is not having sex reassignment surgery. Although he doesn’t completely rule it out in the future, he does not plan to have it.

    Thanks for the clarification.
    I have a niece currently in the process of surgically becoming a nephew, and I think she is making a tragic mistake.

  13. Don Carlos Says:

    Sex “reassignment” surgery, there’s a good laugh.Who is re-assigning? Some deity? Some group? Democrats? It is a sign of our times: Something is done by an unidentified doer.

    Genital modification (aka reassignment) surgery was pioneered at Johns Hopkins a generation ago. A nifty anatomic and surgical challenge. Fairly recently The Hop announced its program was being shut down….the rebuilds had been OK, but the nuttiness, the grievous unhappiness, of the individuals themselves had been unaltered. Took thirty years to discover this obvious truth.

    I take “transgender” to mean a guy with a penis who now has free license to pee in a women’s room just because he wants to. I may try it myself, just for grins.
    With these lines: I’m trapped! Trapped, I tell you! Trapped in a body I did not order! Why don’t God never listen to me and just give me what I want and deserve?

  14. Molly NH Says:

    Many of these individuals commit suicide eventually.
    I heard somebody on the radio say Johns Hopkins has stopped doing the surgery because of so many *down the road* suicides.
    And how is *this* any different from *body dis morphic syndrome* those people fixate on themselves to the point where they are convinced they are *hideous* looking
    & in reality they are merely ordinary looking like you or I, & have no disfigurement at all. I go with the mentally ill camp.
    Of course will Obamacare get the tax payer to be footing the
    bill medically in a futile attempt to satisfy an obsession?
    (of course, we must be fair cost be damned)

  15. Tonawanda Says:

    Oliver Sacks should be required reading in high school so people’s minds are opened to the astonishing malleability of human perception and behavior.

    How does somebody get kicked in the head and wind up playing perfect Chopin? Or speaking French?

    We are so far away from understanding so many things. It is too easy to act as if we do.

    Part of the problem is that Jenner’s pov seems creepy (and I am not talking about him being a Republican).

    The destructive aspect of the conversation is the Left, as usual, taking an issue we are trying to understand intelligently and humanely, and insisting that we adopt their political position on it or be vilified.

  16. AesopFan Says:

    I think this may be what some of us are referring to.

    Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is ‘Mental Disorder;’ Sex Change ‘Biologically Impossible’

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

  17. G6loq Says:

    Jenner for President!

    We are in an Alexandrian age: a time of cultural sunset, depleted energies, moral confusion.

  18. parker Says:

    Its a mental health issue. With exceedingly rare exceptions, these are people confused by or resisting their homosexual identity. I can find some sympathy for their confusion, but little or none for their desire to mutilate their genetalia. One has either testicles or ovaries, XX or XY with few exceptions.

  19. expat Says:

    It’s really weird that in a time when the sexes have more choices about how they can live than ever before, more and more people seem unable to deal with all the options. There is a huge element of faddishness to all this. No one can accept being average or normal any more.

  20. Don Carlos Says:

    Beware, Tonawanda, of association vs. cause-and-effect. If getting kicked in the head yielded any good result even only rarely (speaking perfect French or playing the French horn, or anything else French), we’d all be mandated to have it done before the 8th grade. Oliver Sacks told curious stories, made good money doing so, but if you study him up, you’ll find he was not held in high regard as a neurologist.

  21. n.n Says:

    Principled tolerance, not selective exclusion. The trans-equality movement is creating moral hazards through promotion of the latter. It is also notable for normalizing or promoting conformity in lieu of personal choice, even denying individual treatment through bullying. Still, this is expected of a pro-choice cult. Hopefully the remainder of humanity will ignore their selective principles, scientific integrity, etc.

  22. NeoConScum Says:

    Bruce’s unquenchable NEED for attention qualifies him as a Democrat. Sorry, Bruce, we evil Republicans don’t take Black Holes of NEED.

  23. charles Says:

    People show their true colors when talking about issues such a Bruce Jenner’s gender.

    I find it interesting to note – and yes, Neo, you are quite right “Coming out as a Republican is still the sin that cannot be forgiven” – that some on the right call him mentally ill, etc. Words or phases that could be intentionally hurtful or could just clinical.

    While many on the left don’t just show intolerance but show actual hate – calling him things like “faggot” etc. Words/Phases they know will be hurtful, are intended to be hurtful, etc.

    Many on the left, as always, will eventually show their true feelings and they aren’t pretty.

  24. Orson Says:

    Tonawanda is correct.

    The myopic POSITIVE regard for abject self-abuse deepens my conviction that we are in an Age of Conformist Self-Deception.

    Bruce, you are a man. Why do you want to alter your nature and “become” a woman (as if the impossible were possible). It isn’t how you were born.

    And why do so many enable this self-delusion? Including his family.

    As the late great teaching psychiatrist Thomas Szasz put it decades ago, the sex-change – (which is only the Ultimate Destination for transsexuals “crossing-over”) – is the ultimate in cosmetic procedure.

    Thus, today we enable and even celebrate self-mutilation. How is that “progress?”

    We live in an age when telling the simple Truth is a revolutionary act rejecting stifling, ridiculous, conformism.

  25. Orson Says:

    neo writes “So the sexual mutilation of which you speak is not relevant in this case.”

    Technically, this isn’t true. Hormones are deliberately altered to alter outward appearance. It is the same thing in principle, even if reversible, with difficulty (and when done long enough, surgery anyway).

  26. RFHirsch Says:

    There are some successful examples of this transition. Dierdre McCloskey is a very prominent economist whose views most conservatives would endorse with enthusiasm.

    Everyone who reads this blog is encouraged to read Bourgeois Dignity or at a minimum her review of Picketty’s book: http://www.deirdremccloskey.com/ (the review is linked halfway down the middle column).

  27. neo-neocon Says:

    Orson:

    Taking hormones isn’t even remotely like “mutilation.” That’s sophisty. Everything that alters the body is not mutilation.

    People take hormones all the time, and men do, too. For example, they used to give men with prostate cancer estrogen (now they are more inclined to give testosterone-blocking agents).

    I have studied the transgender phenomenon in some detail, and have concluded that for many many transgendered people (although not all), it is not some sort of whim nor is it a mental illness. There is a phenomenon whereby the developing brain in utero can be feminized or masculinized, and that can lead to the feeling of being a different gender. For these people, the genitals they have seem profoundly wrong, and the surgery does not seem like a mutilation but a correction.

    See, for example, this, this, and this.

  28. parker Says:

    I agree neo, BUT real transgenders are exceedingly rare. For the most part the tsunami of publically ‘out’ transgenders are homosexuals refusing to accept their sexual orientation and seeking societal acceptance by claiming to “be born” with the wrong genetalia. Confused puppies. I pity their confusion and would gladly welcome them to main street as homosexuals.

  29. neo-neocon Says:

    parker:

    Where are your statistics?

    Certainly some transgendered people seem to be quite disturbed. Others are depressed (a more than average number) , but that could be because they have been dealing with the gender problem their whole lives. Many others seem well-adjusted except for their gender problems, and do well after reassignment. See this for example. Some, of course, do not.

  30. Don Carlos Says:

    I love it when Neo talks medicine. Gives me goosebumps. She is so assured, especially when she talks of phenomena developing in utero. Tell us how and what you know of this.
    How are you on neurochemistry and chemical imbalances in the brain, Neo?

  31. Ann Says:

    From a 2014 piece by Dr. Paul McHugh, who was once involved in the sex reassignment program at Johns Hopkins:

    We at Johns Hopkins University—which in the 1960s was the first American medical center to venture into “sex-reassignment surgery”—launched a study in the 1970s comparing the outcomes of transgendered people who had the surgery with the outcomes of those who did not. Most of the surgically treated patients described themselves as “satisfied” by the results, but their subsequent psycho-social adjustments were no better than those who didn’t have the surgery. And so at Hopkins we stopped doing sex-reassignment surgery, since producing a “satisfied” but still troubled patient seemed an inadequate reason for surgically amputating normal organs.

    It now appears that our long-ago decision was a wise one. A 2011 study at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden produced the most illuminating results yet regarding the transgendered, evidence that should give advocates pause. The long-term study—up to 30 years—followed 324 people who had sex-reassignment surgery. The study revealed that beginning about 10 years after having the surgery, the transgendered began to experience increasing mental difficulties. Most shockingly, their suicide mortality rose almost 20-fold above the comparable nontransgender population. This disturbing result has as yet no explanation but probably reflects the growing sense of isolation reported by the aging transgendered after surgery. The high suicide rate certainly challenges the surgery prescription.

    More here.

  32. neo-neocon Says:

    Don Carlos:

    I am obviously not an expert, nor did I say I was an expert, so your sarcastic snark is quite misplaced.

    I am merely reporting what I have studied and the conclusions to which I have come as a result of those studies. In particular (and this was about twenty years ago, so I no longer remember all the details) I took a course in on the subject of human sexuality in which I had to learn about and memorize about 30 different types of sexual disorders (not including transgenderism) that result from hormonal irregularities in utero as well as genetic disturbances, some of which masculinize the body and/or brain and some of which feminize it and some of which cause the brain to be at variance with the chromosomal sex of the fetus. The course introduced me to the idea of the influence of prenatal hormones influencing the brain and gender development of the fetus.

    That does not translate directly to the issue of what causes transgenderism, but many people (and I am one of them) have come to suspect that something similar or at least related is going on with many transgendered people. This is a statement of the theory; this discusses how the brain is either feminized or masculinized in normal fetal development; see also this. I offered some other links in a previous comment.

    There is no question, however, that there are higher rates of suicide and attempted suicide in transgendered people, and that many have difficulty both before and after sexual reassignment surgery (with or without it). Many also don’t have difficulty.

    One of the problems with research on transgendered people is that it is a rare condition, and it’s hard to separate the effects of being transgendered from other problems such people might have. In other words, are the people who are both troubled and transgendered troubled because they are transgendered, or is their idea that they are transgendered just a symptom of their generally troubled nature? Or is it sometimes the former and sometimes the latter, and if so what are the percentages of each?

    I haven’t decided what I think about sexual reassignment surgery. There is some research that shows fairly good results and some that does not. I tend to think that doctors should be very very careful (more careful than they currently are) in selecting candidates for it.

    My point in this comment was that the subject of the surgery is moot re Jenner, since he said he is not planning to have it.

  33. Liberty Wolf Says:

    I wasn’t going to watch but when I saw that Jenner came out as a — REPUBLICAN – well I have to watch now. Also, for those who don’t know, he is using “he” and Bruce till further notice so I am also. Obviously, Jenner has been considering this for a long time and preparing the ground. Yes, the Republican reveal was in some ways the bigger story or at least as big and many don’t know what to make of it. And, yes, the most hateful responses appear to be mostly around that revelation. Suddenly, the lefties who were so tolerant become quite — intolerant. I am actually quite gratified and a bit surprised and relieved that so many people are supportive of his decision to medically transition or at the very least, see it as none of their business. And, I’ve written (of course) a blog post about this on my own blog where I rarely write, but I couldn’t ignore this one- the Republican reveal!

    For people like myself, Jenner being openly a constitution loving conservative is the best news. True diversity is about a diversity of ideas. It gives me a bit of courage to know I am in such stellar company.

    And, yes – it was all too predictable that certain heads would explode! Some lefties are making a big point to say that NOW HE WILL SEE HOW MUCH THEY HATE TRANS PEOPLE!!! This is said in threatening tones like – if you venture away from here, from our mothership of “tolerance” expect to be eaten by the big bad mean Republican wolves!!!!
    But time will tell. From what I am seeing so far, this has not been the case.

    I think Diane Sawyer was suitably shocked– it was a ‘but, but but…’ moment for her.

    I know it has been harder to reveal this fact, that I have voted Republican and registered as a Republican, to my friends than to reveal that I was doing medical sex/gender transition. And, I did it in the old bad days of the 80’s so… that’s saying a lot!

  34. neo-neocon Says:

    Liberty Wolf:

    Yes indeed, as soon as I heard that Jenner had come out as a REPUBLICAN I knew that would be the most controversial thing of all! The left will never forgive him.

  35. neo-neocon Says:

    RFHirsch:

    Jan Morris is another interesting and famous case, who seems quite happy.

  36. Beverly Says:

    Before Bruce proceeds with his castration, he needs to watch “Hedwig and the Angry Inch.”

    Cautionary tale (and also, a damn good movie).

  37. Tonawanda Says:

    Don Carlos@ 7:04

    I would sincerely be interested in your take on this article:

    http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-02/when-brain-damage-unlocks-genius-within

    The article states, in effect, that there is research into science finding a way to give us all a kick in the head.

    Re Sacks: I have no idea how good or bad he is as a neurologist, and take your word he is not highly regarded.

    I love him as a writer and am not aware that he has misrepresented his stories. In some respects, I admit, Sacks has been personally comforting to me.

    A dear friend and mentor had a mother with echolalia until she died. What drove her to despair were the people who told her she was only imagining it.

  38. Steve Says:

    Bruce strikes me as pathologically self-absorbed. He thought about committing suicide before agreeing to do a reality show about his transition? He certainly seems to have moved on quickly from regrets if any for having caused the death of a neighbor in a rear end collision a few months ago.

  39. Don Carlos Says:

    Well, I read your link, Neo. What was his name? Panksepp? That is not medical science. It is borderline medicine for the non-medically minded. Sounds good, though it is nonsense. My Google tab on this link reads “Biological Psychiatry” which says it all. Psychiatry is not embryology nor embryologic neurochemistry. This crowd gave us SSRIs to treat “imbalances.” That, basically, is the limit of their understanding of neurochemistry.

    The problem with these pseudo-science approaches is that all kinds of malconduct are transformed into illnesses, so the “victims” of their own “illnesses” are never at fault. They were just made that way.

    I will refer you and others to Theodore Dalrymple’s new book, “Admirable Evasions,” which snarkily puts down a lot of psychiatry. He writes for PJMedia, as you do, and is a psychiatrist.

  40. Molly NH Says:

    Diane sawyer herself has Republican roots, she has been
    overhauled by the NY elitest lefties, primarily her late husband I imagine !
    Sawyer, I believe, was even a speech writer for Nixon.
    She hails from Kentucky, a red state.

  41. Eric Says:

    Didn’t watch the interview, but an account I read about it pointed out there’s a distinction between gender identity and sexuality wherein Jenner identifies as a woman but is sexually a heterosexual man.

    Huh? How does that work? Is he a lesbian?

  42. NeoConScum Says:

    Whilst going through the checking line at our closest Publix this a.m. I saw the lipsticked Bruce-ums sulking from the cover of one of the People Mag clones with the screeching,”Bruce Suicidal After TV Interview!!”

    Uhhh-Huuuhhhhh….Right. I’m buyin’ that. Yep.

  43. neo-neocon Says:

    Don Carlos:

    You read my link, singular? I provided many more than one. And those were just a few I found very quickly, to illustrate my point. There are more than the ones I offered.

    To explain further on what I base my opinion—of those 30 or so syndromes of sexual developmental anomalies I had to study, one was androgen insensitivity syndrome, for example, in which (in the “complete” type) genetic males look and act like women (and have typical heterosexual orientations and attraction to men) because their bodies block testosterone. There are other syndromes, too (unfortunately I don’t remember their names, so I can’t look them up) in which, for example, male or female hormones are blocked or the hormones of the other gender are circulating in utero and the brain develops in a way that’s not in sync with than the phenotype of the body re gender.

    Sometimes, for example, in one particular syndrome that I recall, the person is raised as a woman because until puberty that person looks like a woman in terms of external genitalia, but at puberty the body produces testosterone and male external genitalia develop. The interesting thing about such people (and again, I’m doing this from memory) is that they report that although raised as girls they always identified as boys mentally. There are many other syndromes as well, all sorts of combinations of possibilities, and the entire picture convinced me that there is something going on with the brain and hormones in utero (sometimes the mother’s hormones) that predispose people to feel male or to feel female and are not dependent just on external genitalia.

  44. neo-neocon Says:

    Eric:

    Yes, he would be a lesbian once he identified as a woman, if he continued to be attracted to women.

    It is indeed confusing. If you’re interested, here’s the Wiki entry. As you can see, there’s a lot of variation.

    I seem to recall, also, that some people consider that some transsexuals are just denying their gayness. I think that would be an extremely extreme way to do it, however!

  45. Don Carlos Says:

    Neo: One step into pseudo-science will do me. Your new link, to “Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome,” is further nonsense. This stuff is not scientific. Sorry.

  46. neo-neocon Says:

    Don Carlos:

    You are showing your ignorance if you think that androgen insensitivity syndrome is some sort of made-up unscientific thing. It is quite well studied and well documented, and even relatively well-understood.

    Again, in my comment about it I just chose a link (quickly; I’m sure if I devoted several hours to answering your every comment that I could find some very excellent ones) that I thought summarized the scientific findings in an easy-to-read-and-understand way. You can Google the syndrome and easily find the hard science of that and a host of other similar syndromes of sexual development (genetic and environmental, mediated by hormones and their receptors).

    This and this, for example, on androgen insensitivity syndrome, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Here’s a related, but different, syndrome. There are many many more.

  47. G6loq Says:

    Just in, Bruce Jenner donating to GOP!

    It’s come to that!

  48. neo-neocon Says:

    G6loq:

    I don’t think two will be enough.

  49. G6loq Says:

    Maybe Lance Armstrong could be convinced?

    That would make it three….

  50. Liberty Wolf Says:

    Well, I am trans — FTM or was born female and am now living as a man and am a man for all intents and purposes. I don’t actually want to get into a long discussion about this and I thank Neo for her valiant attempt to bring some facts to bear on the situation (androgen insensitivity syndrome and the etiology of transsexuality which may very likely include a hormonal influence in utero). I know people are confused, and with some good reason since yes, this is unusual. It seems insane but many people do cross that big bold line between the sexes and are very happy they did. I think newer studies than John Hopkins are more positive though, it is not necessarily an easy route.

    It is a process, and not a one time “surgery”, and often there is more than one surgery. There are many options for the surgeries. Not everyone has genital surgery and the hormones do change the way one’s genitalia looks and functions. Hormones, IMHO, are the actual “sex change”. Or let’s say – radical altering of sexual expression of the genes. I mean, if you come from hairy men, you will be hairy or if like me, you are half Native American – not so hairy. And it goes on, the hormones change just about everything and more over time. In any case, it is a long process and is also legal and social in aspects. This is a profound change. The hormones are crucial and change many things about a person, some permanently — some not. I have written a book about my own transition called _The Testosterone Files_ http://www.amazon.com/The-Testosterone-Files-Hormonal-Transformation/dp/1580051731

    Don’t mean to plug it but it might be a way for some, if they are curious, to find out more.

    It is about the first five years of my transition, and the decision and events leading up to it. I transitioned in 1989. Mind you, I did not lead a conservative life up to that point, my transition may have made me more inclined to vote Republican since I have gotten plenty of grief from (certain not all) feminists about the book. That’s a long story and for another book! But, I am a changer in more ways than one. The book was written before the political change. In any event, I find people are adamantly opposed or upset by people changing sex on both sides of the political spectrum though now, the left is more accepting. However, there are still very wide swathes of the left that are NOT accepting, certain radical feminists and generally, left wing people want you to not be “binary”. Meaning, the left seems to be biased toward people identifying as more “gender fluid’ and “androgynous” and so on… not like me, a man period. Any way, it is all so complicated! I think right wing folks are often more accepting of someone once they are informed since they don’t have a political agenda about “gender fluidity” to push. But then, trans people get grief from both the left and the right. It is just one of those things.

    We are not homosexuals wanting to hide our homosexuality. I was a lesbian for many years and a feminist and so — well, that doesn’t wash. Some of us become gay men! I did not. I would be more PC if I did. I have been called a “knuckle dragging straight man” and that’s a joke but it shows how some on the left don’t like people who are not passing as “queer” but as well, more the norm.

    So I am here with all of you. I recommend the book if you are curious about more as I am tired of talking about it publicly though I do. The book might answer some questions. If not, there are so many resources on line that can answer other questions.

    This is not for everyone and it is a hard road. But if it is the right one, it is the best. I live my life pretty much like any other guy though I know I will always be different. I know many people who have transitioned who are happy, though yes, some of us don’t make it. Some of us have families that reject us and treat us like dirt. I have heard of people who have families that have held funerals for them. But generally, people do fine and some excel, getting married and buying homes and having fantastic careers. And, yes some are gay in their new sex, which is interesting. I guess Jenner may go in that direction but time will tell.

    Being a Republican now and more libertarian/conservative actually makes my life more difficult – since I am an outlier in the LGBT world. But one has to live one’s truth – as I have found. And, often that truth is complicated.

  51. Liberty Wolf Says:

    Again, not wanting to get embroiled in a long discussion, but this is an article that talks about the Hopkins study, which has been largely discredited and the followup Swedish study. I don’t spend too much time worrying about studies like these at this point, and most of the trans people I know don’t either but there you have it.

    There’s a special section of this paper attacking “TERFs” who are radical feminists engaged in being against transsexuals and trying to make our lives more difficult – if at all possible. So we have enemies on the left and right. It is a joyful existence!

    Really though, one just lives on life as best as one can and continues. I try not to pay too much attention to the TERFs and I try not to pay too much attention to any right wing nay sayers but when people are curious and well meaning, I try and be open when I have time and energy.

    http://www.transadvocate.com/clinging-to-a-dangerous-past-dr-paul-mchughs-selective-reading-of-transgender-medical-literature_n_13842.htm

  52. Liberty Wolf Says:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/fighting-back-against-ant_b_5633450.html

    That is a good link also! I dislike the Huff Post generally but yes, they do better on this issue generally. On the other hand, Dennis Prager has written about transsexuals very eruditely and positively. He contrasts us with “genderqueers” and understands the difference between the non-binary political agenda and the actual transsexual condition. In other words, as I have always said, this is not a movement but something you do.

    I’ve written more than I wanted. Hope these are helpful.

  53. J.J. Says:

    Thanks for the info, Liberty Wolf. Congratulations on achieving satisfaction with the way you are.

    I’m inclined to feel very sad for anyone who can’t lead their lives with some semblance of self esteem and feelings of being just what they need to be. Gays, transgendereds, bisexuals, and all permutations and combinations thereof do not have an easy path. My attitude is to try to understand what they may be dealing with and to wish them well as long as they aren’t trying to mold society or other people in harmful ways.

    I feel pity for Jenner. He is obviously not happy and fulfilled with his present situation. Would that intensive psycho-therapy and acceptance by those close to him could provide some peace for him.

    That Jenner is being trashed because he is a Republican. How is that different from Thomas Sowell being trashed because he is a Republican? The Progs have their stereotypes and you dasn’t stray from them. They are as intolerant of anyone with different beliefs as jihadi Muslims . It’s both sad and disgusting.

  54. Don Carlos Says:

    There are some fringe benefits to the transgender migrations.
    XX women becoming masculinized will never have prostates that get massive under testosterone assaults, nor will they experience testicular atrophy. XYs will never have to use tampons.

    God sure didn’t grant these migrants any serenity to accept the things they ought not to change.

  55. Liberty Wolf Says:

    True Don Carlos! No testicular atrophy or tampon excursions in the middle of the night for those going the direction opposite to my own. Heh —

    However, some of us do have the serenity we need to accept what we can and to change what needs to be changed or can be changed. Certainly, I have felt that serenity after making some hard decisions and with joy – pursuing the path that felt most right. Life is not easy but I feel lucky to be able to do that in this wonderful country and – this wonderful time. (in spite of all the problems we discuss here, even so, there’s great things about being an American!)

    And, thanks J.J. for your congratulations! I have not yet watched the Jenner interview but I look forward to it, the fact that Jenner is a Republican is just icing on the cake for me — who would have predicated that part? That threw people for a loop. I love it when that happens! 🙂

  56. Molly NH Says:

    Interesting read Liberty Wolf, I am happy for you, that you are content where you are.
    Funny that you even get accused of being in the
    oppressive white patriarchy, LOL !
    I didn t see jenners interview but I thought it was great that he said he s a Conservative, he believes in the Constitution ! This is great PR, all the millions mostly LIVs & lefties actually heard somebody say
    he is Conservative & supports the US Constitution.
    When has the MSM ever said that Conservatives are Constitutionalists? We would never get that kind of
    positive, supportive remark from media types in a million years ! We all know they want to paint Conservatives as hating & bashing Jenner & the Left as warm & welcoming to him/her.
    Jenner & liberty wolf both have said what is obviously true, that they meet acceptance & rejection on both political sides.
    Overall I feel Jenners interview was a positive for Conservatives. I have heard no outcry from the Right. I believe trans people can be accepted for who they are gender wise, it s much more important to have a Conservative Constitutionalist
    in the fold.

  57. Liberty Wolf Says:

    I agree Molly NH — Conservative and believing in the constitution together were positive statements! And, so important for us to get out there going forward.

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