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  1. I sometimes think I’m a bit obsessive about the Holocaust, but then I read a piece such as yours and dismiss that thought from my mind, and instead feel a moral obligation to continue to read about it and to talk about it with others.

    The price to pay is sadness, though, especially when I read of a horror I’d not heard of before, like the four hundred Hungarian Jewish children who were pushed into a pit and burned alive, as told in this piece in the New Yorker.

    But then that sadness changes to deep anger when I read about how the U.S. did its best to bring SS monsters to the States after WWII, as related in a recent book, The Nazis Next Door: How America Became a Safe Haven for Hitler’s Men. I can’t imagine how the author was able to survive the research and writing of it.

  2. Ann, a lot of the people involved had little choice to be involved, and the idea that they would or could choose otherwise, would be a rarity. given the choice between doing what they say or joining the people with prejudice on you for not doing, what would you choose?

    a whole lot of people were conscripted after germans took over their country…

    we all might like to think that we woud stand up and get shot rather than follow orders, but i am not so sure when you see people today wont stand up against things in which there is only social nastiness not an actual murder of the state.

    The US Displaced Persons Commission in September 1950 declared that:

    “The Baltic Waffen SS Units (Baltic Legions) are to be considered as separate and distinct in purpose, ideology, activities, and qualifications for membership from the German SS, and therefore the Commission holds them not to be a movement hostile to the Government of the United States.

    Even before this decision, around 1,000 former Latvian Legion soldiers had served as guards at the Nuremberg Tribunal, guarding Nazi war criminals. Afterwards, during the Berlin Blockade, they took part in securing Allied facilities involved in the Berlin Airlift and later also were guarding USA Army headquarters.

    During the Soviet period, the Latvian Legion were described as having been illegally concripted by Nazi Germany in 1943, with no indication of being war criminals or Holocaust involvement

    For example, the Soviet film I remember everything, Richard (also known as Rock and splinters in its uncut release) made during the 1960s (during Cold War) at the Riga Film Studio, while being full of Soviet propaganda clichés, clearly illustrates recognition of several essential aspects with respect to Legion soldiers, amongst those: that they were front-line soldiers, they were mostly forcefully conscripted, they were not supporters of Nazi ideology, they did not take part in Holocaust. This contrasts sharply with Russia’s post-Soviet stance, which denounces the Legion as Waffen SS war criminals and uses the Legion issue to assert political and ideological pressure on Latvia on the international scene.

    if you think that they should have ended up like the other legion (stalin exterminated them as traitors), then you would have sided with Baltutlé¤mningen

    Swedish extradition of Baltic soldiers
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_extradition_of_Baltic_soldiers

    On 2 June 1945, the Soviet Union demanded that Sweden extradite all Axis soldiers. The government protocol from 15 June was kept secret until it became public on 19 November. It was supported by most of parliament and the Swedish Communist Party wanted to go further

    -=-=-=-=-=-

    The majority of the Baltic soldiers extradited were Latvians who had escaped from the Courland Pocket. When the refugees reached Sweden, those in uniform were detained in detention camps. The extradition to the Soviets took place on 25 January 1946

    the latvian legionaires that were in the courland pocket were the ones exterminated.

    In the 1990s the Swedish government admitted that this had been a mistake. Surviving Baltic veterans were invited to Sweden in 1994, where they were met by the King of Sweden Carl XVI Gustaf and the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Sweden Margaretha af Ugglas and participated in various ceremonies commemorating the events surrounding their extradition. Both the King and the Minister for Foreign affairs expressed their regret for Sweden’s past extradition of Baltic Legion soldiers to the Stalinist USSR

    so when you hear of a lot of SS came to america, remember there were whole groups that had nothing to do with the holocaust, they just took up weapons to repel the soviets whom they lived under before the german occupation.

    now that is not to say there were no monsters from latvia, there were, and they were part of PÄ“rkonkrusts…

    and as far as monsters go, well, some of the worlds worst came from latvia, if you know which ones went into creating the KGB then called the NKVD.

    PÄ“rkonkrusts was a Latvian ultra-nationalist, anti-German and antisemitic political party founded in 1933 by Gustavs Celmiņš, borrowing elements of German nationalism–but being unsympathetic to German National Socialism at the time–and Italian fascism.

    they were ended when the leader was killed in the 1940s… though recently a new group with the same name has cropped up since 1995…

    the left made a freaking mess akin to the gordian knot, trying more variations of what is moral, what is immoral, and what is moral and immoral to do about it.

  3. here is something that may make you think twice..

    Karl Plagge was a Wehrmacht officer, engineer and Nazi Party member

    should he be killed or imprisoned for being part of the german machine?

    during World War II used his position as a staff officer in the Heer (Army) to employ and protect some 1,240 Jews – 500 men, the others women and children, in order to give them a better chance to survive the nearly total annihilation of Lithuania’s Jews that took place between 1941—1944

    he survived the war, tried to retire, but they put him on trial..

    Some of his former prisoners were in a displaced persons camp in Stuttgart and heard of the charges against him. They sent a representative, on their own initiative and unannounced, to testify on his behalf, and this testimony influenced the trial result in Plagge’s favor.

    The court wanted to award Plagge the status of an Entlasteter (“exonerated person”) but on his own wish he was classified as a Mitlé¤ufer (“follower”). Like Oskar Schindler, Plagge blamed himself for not having done enough.

    Yad Vashem, declared Major Karl Plagge righteous among the nations….

    look up Gerhard Kurzbach, Kurt Becher (ss soldier), Werner Klemke and soldier Johannes Gerhardt, Anton Schmid

    one of the sadder histories was the release of jews from concentration camps to sweden in exhange for military equipment… this happening later in the war… when the false rumor went out that they were in exchange for SS troops, hitler stopped the exchange.

    you can read: An Uncommon Journey
    about an ss soldier named alois that saved another family…

  4. Neo: Another book(and movie)on the subject, only with Christians helping Jews is: “The Hiding Place”, by Corrie ten Boom. Breathtaking courage from a family of Christian women.

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