Fiorina: watch this…
…and see why Fiorina’s star is rising. Doing what she does best:
How she manages to hold her own like that, put Matthews in his place, barely come up for air, and not sound like a shrew is something I don’t understand. But it’s a wonderful thing to see.
Please spread it around. I would dearly like to see it go viral.
Also, in case you think that this is some new persona for Carly, take a look at this video from her 2010 campaign in California. Even though it’s true-blue California, she refuses to condemn the Tea Party as “extremists” and…well, just take a look. I’ve cued it up to start at a place where the real fun begins (by the way, the short, gray “do” is because she was recovering from chemo):
Several people said that Fiorina’s appearance today on “Morning Joe” was excellent. I haven’t yet had time to watch the clip (and I can’t find an embed code), but I think this is the appearance they might be talking about.
Sure enough, right on cue, there are people going around dropping criticisms of Carly everywhere. She failed at Hewlett-Packard and was fired. She outsourced. When she worked for McCain in 2008 she spoke in favor of this and that cause that he supported and that she opposes now. The long knives are out, predictably, because she is now considered a serious and viable candidate.
Her star is rising cause she is a feminist before a conservative, as a conservative cant be a communist, and feminism according to feminism is communist (if you think something else then you have a great defense mechanism that lets you disbelieve plain speech of the leaders of something you have a personal version for)
so in essence, she is an elitist rino, and will govern that way, and so the left will make sure that she will be up and on the top, as she can be controlled by them, when trump cant.
now if you want to sit here and discuss the false image you believe, then go ahead, but she has made herself very clear and is not any different than the sociopathic clintons.
The left would hammer her relentlessly if she was not in their ring… remember Palin? they went to the point of even going after the kids, the home, the business, and even the IRS joined in…
if they are not doing that, then guess what?
Neo:
You have the correct link for the Morning Joe appearance. She was winning the votes of the MSNBC people.
People can attack all they want re HP, but her answer is perfect and the way it went down. The HP Board was dysfunctional. After Carly there was a huge wiretapping scandal and more Board in-fighting. It will come out.
And the former CEO of Intel gave her money early. You watch. Lots of tech people will back her on the HP thing.
i would suggest reading this
Some Basic Concepts Needed to Understand Psychopaths in Our World
and apply it to the people in state who want communism, control over others with a sadsitic force behind it, and willing to say whatever needed to be what you want them to be to get what they want, then once in place, do whatevr they feel like doing and ignore consequences.
like hillary with her changing of the accent depending on where she talks… or clinton having sex in the office by using power over a lower intern and ruining her life (she isnt doing that well is she, and she never will)
and that the left is duped by sociopaths is easy to see with their love of stalin, mao, chavez, che, castro, etc.
so be warned (again)…
[and its even funnier to watch a sociopath deconstruct a sociopath as Mika Brzezinski tries to do!!!!!!!]
you can tell that obama is one… who else could do what he has done and not be tortured by it? limited by it? or anything?
wake up people…
especially women..
think a sociopath would not use the special realitionship created between women for personal gain and power over her victims?
HA!
she ruined three companies, cost thousands of people their jobs, homes, families, and more… and blithly moves on and on…
think she will run the US better than she did hp, at&t, compac, etc?
she turned HP, one of the most legendary tech companies with some of the most innovative work in communication… into a printer ink company…. which allowed cisco to take it all…
what is hp good for now? laptops? printers? not even good printers anymore? she ran them into the ground, was a staunch leftist feminist, and so on.
but none of that means anything to a sociopath who wants something and only feels pain when they dont get it!!!
so she helps the left win, by helping the right…
and her pudenda and all that allows her to once again reinvent herself as whatever is needed to get play…
yup… so do you really think she will do anything about her fellow female sociopaths selling body parts? sugar and spice and everyhthing nice, with 50 years of you cant say anything negative, even if its truthful is going to get what on election day?
and that talking softly is in mangement books to create the false illusion of by in and interest by getting bodies to move to the same position as if they really were interested but by other means.
she can dupe them
and she can dupe women even more than men
and men can be negated cause were men
but make no bones on it, she is a socialist leftist sociopath wacko who is very polished, and has all the requisite patterns of such.
Art,
You sure can smother a thread.
“Her star is rising cause she is a feminist before a conservative, as a conservative cant be a communist,”
Oh, now you grow dull. How very very predictable your blather has become, Art. Get some new schtick.
Neo: When I emailed you I didn’t realize you already had a post up on Carly; sorry, I was on my iPhone.
But like I said: She’s getting fabulous PR today. I think it actually helped her to be on the 5pm show!
Mr. Frank:
The thread goes on.
You will see plenty of articles saying Fiorina did very well at HP and that her firing was because she threatened the status quo too much. You will also see plenty of articles saying she was an awful CEO. There are no dearth of either, and that argument will go on.
You will probably see only one person saying, however, that she is a leftist sociopath. I beg to differ with that opinion very strongly.
I haven’t yet decided who I would like to be the GOP nominee. For me, it’s between Cruz, Walker, Rubio, and Fiorina. But I am pretty sure that none of them is either a leftist or a sociopath, and I think I’m a fairly good judge of character.
The only way in which I think Carly’s gender might matter is in fighting Hillary Clinton. In that same way but to a lesser extent, I think Cruz or Rubio might help draw the Hispanic vote. Otherwise I could not care less if the nominee is man or woman, black or white or Hispanic.
Whatever … Carly was the clear winner for both debates. If she doesn’t get a bump i’d be amazed.
Trump supporters will still be there. I’m thinking his supporters are same as Hillary supporters. Not that they support the same positions but short of being convicted of murder (maybe even murder for Hillary’s) they won’t change their support.
Whatever … Carly was the clear winner for both debates. If she doesn’t get a bump i’d be amazed.
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I found it amusing that she managed to appear in both debates (as did Perry). That should help her as well.
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Trump supporters will still be there. I’m thinking his supporters are same as Hillary supporters. Not that they support the same positions but short of being convicted of murder (maybe even murder for Hillary’s) they won’t change their support.
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Yes, and no. A lot of Trump’s supporters are single-issue people. Specifically, they’re upset about immigration, and Trump’s bomb-throwing has been largely focused on this topic. Both Fiorina and Perry are talking about the border as well, but without the bomb-throwing. If either one of them gains media attention, they might start eating into Trump’s base.
Wow! I was inclined to dismiss Carly as inexperienced, but that clip with Chris Matthews just about made a convert out of me.
Carly Fiorina Goes Full Honey-Badger!
Will trump them all ….
Mizpants –
She’s been doing stuff like that for a short while now, and it’s one of the things I really like about her. She doesn’t back down, stays on point, doesn’t take the crap a lot of these reporters try to throw at her, and keeps her nose up in a way that doesn’t come off as arrogant.
I like her a lot. I think I’m a little colder on Rubio than Neo is, but I’m pretty close to her list in terms of potential candidates I could be excited about. But for the past few months, I’ve been leaning more and more towards Fiorina, because she seems like a do-er, and is almost COMPLETELY outside of the political system. I like Walker because he’s seems to be a do-er as well, and just quietly goes about his business.
I also love Ben Carson, but I really think he’s too nice for the job. I can see him being really good on domestic stuff, but I don’t think he’d be good staring down Putin or Ali Khamenei or the like.
Anyway, she’s made a convert out of me over the past 3-4 months while everyone got breathless over Trump speaking truth in a flamboyant manner. There are a select few in the primary race I think I would vote for happily, and Carly Fiorina is, at present, at the top of my list.
Chris Mathews, and others in the MSM, have always acted like they are smarter and better than others.
Carly, has proven him wrong. She clearly holds her own and doesn’t let him play his game.
She does the same in the second clip and is even better. I think people will relate to how she handled a somewhat rather obnoxious “reporter.” I started to laugh at the guy (I don’t know who he is) who started to bob his head up and down in agreement with her when she called the reporter out on some of his claims about HP. And even after finishing up she was drawn back in by the reporter; but, not to play his game. Rather, she was chiding him for trying to rehash some old news and not reporting the real story!
Chris Christie has, in the past, also called reporters out on their nonsense; but, he did it in a very belligerent manner. I love the fact that Carly did it all in a very fact-based, level-headed, calm, cool, and collected manner. How cool was that!
Wow, I am impressed. I think she is one of the better choices. I do hope that she gets more and more coverage.
It is easy to admire her style and poise. I am starting to think she might be the proverbial real deal.
Here she is in Atlanta this afternoon. Many standing ovations. 25 minutes but worth it. After her stump speech she takes numerous questions from the audience and hits each one out of the park.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKR4PBcB7qg
Thank you Carl.
We knew for 12 years that the Russians and
Chinese had a plan to cyber attack us and did nothing?
Were you there? Crowd and Carly were fired up.
Cornhead: No, I wasn’t there to see Carly (had to work!). I am supposed to go with a friend today to see Scott Walker. I like him well enough and admire the steadfastness he showed against the public employee unions in WI, but I worry about his blandness. Carly generates an enthusiasm within me that Walker just doesn’t. Still, I want to see him and I’d certainly support and vote for him should he be the nominee. (That goes for all 17 of them!)
Carl:
Give us a report. I saw Walker in Iowa and wrote a report for Powerline.
For casua voters, Carly is a better candidate.
Casual voters
So how many Democrat zombie votes are they going to put into the primaries for Trump and sabotage the elections, vs what people are going to do to counter that op?