Obama to world: it’s okay to violate sanctions
Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse, there’s this news:
Sens. Mark Kirk (R., Ill.) and Marco Rubio (R., Fla.) disclosed in the letter to the State Department that U.S. lawmakers have been shown copies of several letters sent by the Obama administration to the Chinese, German, French, and British governments assuring them that companies doing business with Iran will not come under penalty.
The Obama administration is purportedly promising the foreign governments that if Iran violates the parameters of a recently inked nuclear accord, European companies will not be penalized, according to the secret letters…
“These letters appear to reassure these foreign governments that their companies may not be impacted if sanctions are re-imposed in response to Iranian violations of the agreement,” [Kirk and Rubio] claim [in the letter]. “While Administration officials have claimed that this is not the case, we think it is important for the American public to be able to read your assurances to foreign governments for themselves as their elected representatives review this deal in the coming weeks.”
“The conditions under which foreign investment in Iran would proceed under the nuclear agreement remain unclear,” Kirk and Rubio wrote. “On July 23, 2015, Secretary of the Treasury Jack Lew told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that companies that have invested in Iran would ”˜not be able to continue doing things that are in violation of the sanctions’ if sanctions snap back.”
“Foreign investment in Iran will involve long-term contracts in many cases, however, and some interpretations of the Iran agreement indicate these contracts might be protected from the snap-back of sanctions by a so-called ”˜grandfather clause,’” they write.
There’s more in there, but that’s the gist of it.
One of the big arguments Obama and Kerry have used for the Iran deal is that the sanctions were falling apart anyway. However, they were falling apart even before the deal because the US was signalling it would be abandoning them soon, and was desperate to make such a deal. So Obama/Kerry used the fruits of their own abandonment of sanctions to justify lifting sanctions.
One of the other ways in which Obama/Kerry argued for the deal has been the “snap-back” clause, which would revive sanctions in case of Iranian violations. But that’s a horse that’s very difficult to get back in the barn once let out. Now we know they weren’t even going to try.
Also we once again get to hear the laments about how this is all now impossible to stop. Because gosh golly darn we just dont have the votes.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHY EVERYONE IS SO ANGRY THEY WOULD BACK A FOOL LIKE TRUMP.
The Dems action in this regard have approached treasonous. A term I do not use lightly. And the Republicans are once again more concerned with getting more power by having a campaign issue. Than in actually making any effort to stop this behavior.
Neo I enjoy your commentary. And I usually try to be reasonable and well though out in who I back. But this current toxic brew in Washington is so vile. I understand the fear and loathing the public has for them.
Unfettered illegal immigration. Giving a terrorist state everything it asked for and more during nuclear negotiations.
And the massive repeated security breaches this administration has allowed.
If this is not the time for anger. and vengeance upon those who have allowed this to happen. Then I dont know when that time may come.
The sanctions are falling apart BUT we can snap them back anytime we need too!
Obama does not think his supporters are stupid … he knows they are so stupid he can tell them anything … which he has shown again and again … and they still support him.
Mythx:
I have been angry for a long, long time. My anger doesn’t mean I back Trump, but believe me I get the anger and share it.
Obama to world (cont.):
It’s OK to lie.
It’s OK to betray allies.
It’s OK to betray your own country.
It’s OK to destroy your own country.
It’s OK to undermine the US Constitution.
It’s OK to undermine your country’s justice system.
It’s OK to foment race riots.
It’s OK to blame everyone else.
It’s OK to mangle language.
It’s NOT OK to defy ME.
It’s the Fabian Window, they are wolves crawling around looking sly all the while covered
covered with a sheep’s fleece !
Neo,
I am just over 2 years before my retirement. I have been increasing looking at spots that have a few primary requirements
10-15 acres of land
150 miles from a major population center
An open water source or is adjacent to one.
A few years ago these were not at all things I considered. But the last 4 years have shown me something.Things we have taken for granted are about to come to a swift end. World events, domestic disturbances are all on the rise. Add in unprecedented debt and the Fed forcing everyone into the stock market with its non existent interest rates. We are primed for a 1920′-40s period of unrest.
Two generations of elected officials who have not only failed in every respect to take any of this seriously. But have actively encouraged this bad behavior. I hope like hell I am wrong. But i have 3 kids and 2 grandchildren so I do not have the luxury of thinking that things will work out.
Mythx (4:59 pm) is almost exactly right: “THIS IS EXACTLY WHY EVERYONE IS SO ANGRY THEY WOULD BACK A FOOL LIKE TRUMP.” It’s not “everyone”, although I wish it were. “Almost everyone” would be very nice, but even “almost everyone” is insufficient. It’s *some* of us.
And you know what? They know full well that *we* see through their lies, but they know as well that there’s not nearly enough of us, and we don’t control nearly enough of the microphones.
It’s all kabuki theater, for consumption by the idiotocracy.
And meanwhile, USA is circling the toilet bowl, drain-bound . . .
Mythx,
Try the driftless area of IA. Beautiful area of rolling hills with plenty of woodland and water. In terms of land prices you will find the area very competitive with other places in the country with similar characteristics. The nearst metro area, the twin cities, is 3 hours away. And its not a liberal wasteland. No gangs, not much in the way of pc, and probably 80 percent of the population is armed and friendly, those unarmed are friendly too.
There is no natural limit to the traitorous perfidy of Obama, Kerry and their supporters.
Mythx,
They are far past ‘approaching’ treasonous actions.
“If this is not the time for anger. and vengeance upon those who have allowed this to happen. Then I dont know when that time may come.”
Arguably, once the first nuclear terrorist attack upon an American city occurs or an EMP attack against the US. It’s the traffic light syndrome, ‘enough’ have to die before there is a sufficient public outcry that cannot be ignored.
“they are wolves crawling around looking sly all the while covered covered with a sheep’s fleece !” Molly NH
Human wolves have been with us from the beginning, they subscribe to the view that, “if God did not want them to be sheared, he would not have made them sheep!” Eli Wallach, “The Magnificent Seven”
“10-15 acres of land
150 miles from a major population center
An open water source or is adjacent to one.” Mythx
Add to those criteria, near no major transportation corridor and ideally, a temperate climate (climate is an issue with most northern latitudes). Despite its liberal pop. southwestern Oregon has much to offer. Obviously, your location must be within their reach. Hesitation is the great danger, (known as normalcy bias) failing to act promptly will result in the best of plans going astray.
There’s lots of info out there for those interested in preparing against the worst possibilities. Common sense is a necessity when considering that info.
We, extended family, have no less than 1 year per person, food in various forms, in storage. And we all garden and preserve vegetables and fruit. We learn at an early age how to track small and large game. Plus, we are all, down to 8 year olds, capable of putting 10 out of 10 into the bullseye at various distances, dependent on caliber. Reload, cast bullets, have skill with black and smokeless powder, compound bows,learn to knife fight, etc. We are the country boys and girls who know how to survive.
And we have a rally point, well stocked, in northern Minnesota, along with back roads directions to gather there. Molon labe! The day will come when all you can depend upon are kin and extremely close friends.
This is off-topic, but since Trump has already been mentioned, I think it’s appropriate to link it.
Check out this post from Karl Denninger:
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230529
I agree with Denninger. If–IF–Trump tackles this issue head-on, he will win by a landslide.
And he’s just the one to do it.
If you find it easier to be honest with Iran than with the American people, you don’t belong in office.
I think Obama is effectively an enemy of the country, but my take on the sanctions is a bit different than that of most conservatives. I’ve mentioned this before, so apologies for the repetition.
Russia and China were on the verge of lifting sanctions anyway. Britain, France, Germany, and the rest of the EU would have quickly followed. Obama supported their move, and made it easier; but I don’t see how a conservative American president could have stopped China and Russia. After that, stopping western Europe wouldn’t have been possible without invoking extraordinary threats — in fact, at the moment, I can’t even imagine what those threats might be. Carly Fiorina says that she has a plan to limit Iran’s access to funds that are about to become available through the international banking system. I haven’t seen any details of this plan, and have no idea whether it would work, but if there’s anything that can be done to prevent Iran from obtaining 100-150 billion dollars to pay for more terrorism, then of course I’d support it. Still, that’s only one aspect of the sanctions. The rest of the sanctions program will collapse no matter what the American government does.
The Iran sanctions problem is a symptom of the gradual change in attitude among both the governments and the populations of western Europe. Across the political spectrum, they hate Jews and Americans with a passion. In western Europe, Americans have become the new Jews. At the same time, most western European countries have gutted their military forces. Except for the American military, NATO is the proverbial paper tiger, and Putin knows it. Given their hatred of Americans, and their dependence on its military, their attitude towards Russia is understandable. It may sound unbelievable to us, but they think that Russia is less of a threat to them than is the United States. They’d prefer to be a Russian partner in a Russian sphere of influence. I think this is delusional, but the view is widespread. In short, it’s not just the Baltics that are indefensible, it’s all of western Europe. This is an invitation to catastrophe, and to forestall it, I think that the United States should withdraw from NATO. At the same time, it should establish a clear hierarchy of allies, rivals, and enemies. The United States and its most important allies would be vigorously defended. I also think that it’s important for the United States to form a strategic alliance, with China, against Russia. China has a long-range goal of taking over much of eastern Siberia, and I think we should support them in that. In return, we should ask that China formally recognize that most of the countries in northeast and southeast Asia will continue to be part of the American sphere of influence established after World War II. Finally, I think that the United States should seek a formal nuclear nonproliferation treaty with all Middle Eastern countries as well as China. When Iran refuses to sign, attack Iran, with China as a nonparticipating ally.
I know how grandiose this sounds. Who am I to have the gall to even think about such things? Well, unfortunately, none of the Republican candidates are talking about foreign policy. This is partly due to Trump and his supporters seizing the agenda, but we can’t blame everything on Trump and Obama. We know the leftist view on foreign policy. Where is the conservative vision? In the last campaign, Romney at least offered an alternative, and on most points, he’s been proven right. The coalitions formed after World War II are collapsing and nuclear weapons are proliferating. A larger view is required. Passive and reactionary responses will not reduce the violence that comes with realignment. But it will put American security at even greater risk.
End of pretentious rant.
Corn…
No nation was on the verge of doing a SINGLE thing until BHO gave them the all clear sign —
AS THEY COULDN’T GET PAID.
Britain and America crafted SWIFT.
It’s the Internet of funds transfers. London and Washington sit astride the BACKBONE of SWIFT.
Consequently it’s IMPOSSIBLE to get money transferred from Tehran to Moscow without London or Washington grabbing the money — ELECTRONICALLY — while it’s in transit.
That reality is what queered the deal to sell the S-300 anti-aircraft missile back in 2010. Putin was not interested in having to BARTER for the missile sale. It would take just about forever for Iran to come up with enough pistachios.
ALL of the other nations started getting excited about the end of sanctions when BHO started using his executive pen to remove the SWIFT sanctions regime against Tehran.
Since the larger public is TOTALLY unaware of how SWIFT functions, how international trade is settled. BHO has been getting a way with treason.
SWIFT is THE choke hold — EVEN now.
Britain could single-handedly stop Iran from using SWIFT – but is NOT going to cross Washington until the issue is life or death for Britain, itself.
Seventy-five years of British-American relations have made that universal British policy. [ Never swat the 8,000 lb Godzilla. ]
Blert:
Like many other Americans, I’ve used the SWIFT system to move funds internationally. I assume that Carly Fiorina was referring to SWIFT when she said she’d take steps to prevent Iran from obtaining the funds that had been frozen due to the sanctions program. As I said, I don’t know the details, and if I did, I might not understand them.
Beyond that, I’m out of my depth, and can’t respond to your comment other than saying that other things I’ve read don’t share your conviction that SWIFT is an absolute choke point. Instead, my impression was that dropping other parts of the sanctions program was also important, and that both Russia and China were both about to do so. I wish it weren’t so, but my limited knowledge of international banking — especially as practiced by Russia and China — is a problem here.
In any event, as you say, Obama plans to drop SWIFT sanctions, and our supposed allies are overjoyed. What is the larger conservative foreign policy?
rickl:
That post by Denninger is loaded with factual errors that I saw right off the bat.
I realize he’s supposed to know what he’s talking about—but just as an example, he is wrong when he writes this:
Not when you are poor and on subsidies. That’s only true if your income is middling and on subsidies. For the poor (anyone from 100% to 250% of the federal poverty level, which for people with children is set relatively high: for example, 250% of the poverty level comes to a bit over 60K for a couple with 2 children), there are cost sharing subsidies that reduce the deductibles and the copays. Depending on income, cost-sharing can shrink those deductibles/subsidies down to almost nothing. He completely ignores them and acts as though they don’t exist.
He ignores other things, too. I’m not going to go into it in great depth because it would take me hours, and it’s not worth it. Suffice to say that quite a few problems leapt out at me as soon as I read it, I’m not even an expert on Obamacare. However, I probably spent several hundred hours studying Obamacare when its details first came out, and I can tell you that many people writing about it don’t show a whole lot of understanding about it.
Oh, just a little bit more. He writes:
He then goes into various ways he thinks that can change, but none of them address the salient facts of why MRIs are so cheap in Japan. It’s not as though it’s hard to find the information, either; there are tons of articles about it. There are many many reasons, but some are that the MRIs there are of much poorer quality, the government sets the prices and controls the system, and MRIs are extremely popular and lots and lots of people get them for almost no reason (like you might get your teeth cleaned), so there’s a huge economy of scale.
I’ll leave it at that, although I could go on.
“What is the larger conservative foreign policy?”
IMO nothing less than the credible threat of immediate, overwhelming military force will stop Iran. Credible means an unequivocal message that “overwhelming military force” means the use of nukes if necessary. Russia and China have in the past, ‘unofficially’ stated that they are prepared to defend Iran, so credible means communicating to Putin and the Chicoms that we view Iran’s acquisition of nuclear capability as a mortal, existential threat and will take whatever means are necessary to end the threat.
Convinced that we were in fact serious and committed, Iran and any ‘supporters’ would back down.
you may ask yourself “How did I get here?”
you may say to yourself “This is not my beautiful deal“
“if Iran violates the parameters of a recently inked nuclear accord, European companies will not be penalized”
Really, is this much different from when Obama said to Russian President: “After my election I’ll have more flexibility”?
It really isn’t is it?
Nuke Qom and Tehran from orbit, its the only way to be sure.
Cornflour said at 9:07
“It may sound unbelievable to us, but they think that Russia is less of a threat to them than is the United States.”
With Obama as president, if the Europeans think as Cornflour claim, they might possibly be correct. Obama’s primary goal seems to be to promote the spread of Islam at the expense of traditional Western society. Putin and Obama are both narcissistic but since Putin is a Russian nationalist he puts his country’s interest first while Obama identifies himself as an outsider whose first priority is to take down Western Civilization and to hurt his enemies – other Americans.
Corn…
Putin doesn’t want to take payment in pistachios…
For the sums involved, only electronic money will do.
He also had to be concerned about counter-financial punishment// garnishments in the West should ANY of his Iranian commerce come to light.
The SWIFT sanctions EXACTLY coincided with Putin’s ‘backbone’ inre Iranian sanctions.
The S-300 fell apart the moment SWIFT was denied to Iran.
Now that Iran is back in the SWIFT grid, the S-300 sale is — unexpectedly — back on the table.
It really is that simple.
What Red China and Russia face is a world that — financially — is totally in thrall to the UK-US axis.
It, the axis, even infuriates Paris and Tokyo. Tokyo has decided that the hand you cannot bite you must kiss.
Paris has never accepted its place in the economic order. In this way Paris is continuing the aberrant social orbit of France — which goes back to at least Joan of Arc.
France has remained on the ‘outs’ with Britain, Spain, Germany, Holland, Italy and more for most of the last 500 years — at one time or another. It’s an astonishing track record.
It’s the true fount of European totalitarian social engineering — as even Das Capital was written with regard to the French banking scene… NOT London. ( Which is rather telling when you think about it.)
[ It was the 1832 banking crisis in Paris that really got Marx to thinking. His published writings (1848) were not aimed at current events, though most might think so from our modern remove. Marx regarded the bankers as having engineering the crisis — of their own volition — via a credit embargo that dried up liquidity over night — bringing the French economy to its knees. The key players then ran around and swept up ownership control for a pittance.]
Shades of Soros buying massive blocks in the coal industries largest corporations. ( 99.96 % discount in only one president. )
Molly, the other side of fhe fabian window point is that they will cause wars and world wars because it allows them to remake the world to their liking – so you can sure as sure guess what is coming soon…
Cornflour Says: Russia and China were on the verge of lifting sanctions anyway. Britain, France, Germany, and the rest of the EU would have quickly followed.
Cornflour, this ignores that russia and china SUPPLY iran and are the ones behind the use of islam against the west. there are TONS of archival information on this, and bragging in autobiographies. the others would NEVER have followed.. PERIOD… they NEVER follow the lead of soviet communists and those pretending to be otherwise.. EVER.
Ceausescu bragged of such in his biography, Arafat claimed similar and was always in russias back pocket. who do you think sends military equipment? you think those weapons boxes say “made in USA”? they use semtec, not C4… they favor AK-47s, and more modern versions… their grenade launchers are chinese made… and these two states who only have raw materials to offer the world given they wont allow economy without twiddling, make a fortune by blocking development in africa using the land path from russia through the serbian states, through iran, and from there across the land to africa by several points. they do not ship by air, and recently dock workers have refused to unload such cargo.
Terrorism and the Soviet Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_and_the_Soviet_Union
According to Ion Mihai Pacepa, KGB General Aleksandr Sakharovsky once said: “In today’s world, when nuclear arms have made military force obsolete, terrorism should become our main weapon.”He also claimed that “Airplane hijacking is my own invention”.
given that obama thinks this is ok (quoting above):
and he loves the soviet union so much, as did the weatherman ayers, as do others in his admin, as he speaks fluent russian and arabic, and his daughter is named alexander like pushkin (sascha) and his other daughter bears the name of alexander pushkins biographer from berkley (mahlia), and he sides WITH cuba beloved of the soviets, and Chavez, friend of Putin, and the terrorist states who are also in russia circle..
The following terrorist organizations have been established by the KGB: PLO, National Liberation Army of Bolivia (created in 1964 with help from Ernesto Che Guevara); the National Liberation Army of Colombia (created in 1965 with help from Cuba), Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine in 1969, and the Secret Army for Liberation of Armenia in 1975. The leader of the PLO, Yasser Arafat, established close collaboration with the Romanian Securitate service and the Soviet KGB in the beginning of the 1970s. The secret training of PLO guerrillas was provided by the KGB. However, the main KGB activities and arms shipments were channeled through Wadie Haddad of the DFLP organization, who usually stayed in a KGB dacha BARVIKHA-1 during his visits to Russia. Led by Carlos the Jackal, a group of PFLP fighters accomplished a spectacular raid on the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries office in Vienna in 1975.
AND
operation “SIG” (“Zionist Governments”) that was devised in 1972, to turn the whole Islamic world against Israel and the United States. KGB chairman Yury Andropov allegedly explained to Pacepa that “a billion adversaries could inflict far greater damage on America than could a few millions. We needed to instill a Nazi-style hatred for the Jews throughout the Islamic world, and to turn this weapon of the emotions into a terrorist bloodbath against Israel and its main supporter, the United States.”
yeah… that was a warning from 30 years ago… hows it working we ignore it and favor socialist communists in state, in school, in office, in academia, etc?
and litvenenko certainly had a run in with Kamera:
Poison laboratory of the Soviet secret services
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_laboratory_of_the_Soviet_secret_services
Currently: Several laboratories of the SVR, (headquartered in Yasenevo near Moscow), are responsible for the “creation of biological and toxin weapons for clandestine operations in the West” [Alexander Kouzminov Biological Espionage: Special Operations of the Soviet and Russian Foreign Intelligence Services in the West, Greenhill Books, 2006]
Journalist Anna Politkovskaya. During the Beslan school hostage crisis in September 2004 and while on her way to Beslan to help in negotiations with the hostage-takers, Politkovskaya fell violently ill and lost consciousness after drinking tea given to her by Aeroflot flight attendant.[12] She survived. The drug was allegedly prepared in the FSB poison facility. [she was later shot in the head twice on her doorstep]
Another victim was former KGB agent Alexander Litvinenko. He was poisoned in a sushi bar in London in 2006. Traces of polonium-210 were found in his body. In a farewell letter, Litvinenko accused president Vladimir Putin of being behind the attack on his life. Litvinenko was critical of the Putin regime and accused the FSB of being behind the 1999 attacks in Russia. He died on 23 November 2006.
polonium, is not something you can gather in your spare time, you need access to nuclear power plants or nuclear breeder reactors for weapons… the soviets USED to use thorium as it would cause stomach cancer
better brush up on the history we pretend doesnt exist or otherwise you will think the evil is good and the good is evil, and the house of mirrors is ignored.
blert Says: Consequently it’s IMPOSSIBLE to get money transferred from Tehran to Moscow without London or Washington grabbing the money – ELECTRONICALLY – while it’s in transit.
not true blert, not true… there are other ways…
Hawala
familiar with it? i am, as i know indonesia, and other muslim things… nothing wrong with it in and of itself, but if your looking to move money around and dont want others to know, then this as well as diamonds, and other things are the way to go… only people who dont know the game would try to go through the front door.
Hawala or Hewala or also known as hundi, is an informal value transfer system based on the performance and honour of a huge network of money brokers, primarily located in the Middle East, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, and the Indian subcontinent, operating outside of, or parallel to, traditional banking, financial channels, and remittance systems.
How hawala works
In the most basic variant of the hawala system, money is transferred via a network of hawala brokers, or hawaladars. It is the transfer of money without actually moving it. In fact, a successful definition of the hawala system that is used is “money transfer without money movement”
no money actually moves in the transaction, which means that it cant be tracked by modern banking methods.
its pretty easy…
first you go to a broker (using western terms) and you give them the cash and a password.
they then call up their associate in another country that has cash and gives the password.
the person recieving it then goes, gives the password, pays the fee and collects the cash.
voila… no actual money transfers and things kind of even out over time. what is left can be transferred but usually is done by people traveling by plane and given the canceling out of transactions back and forth, is no where near the amount of actual money that was transferred.
the other thing is that there is no paper trail whatsoever. like hasidim with their handshake deals in perpetuity, and others in the world, its all done with a handshake and word of mouth.
there are tons of such things world wide that most americans and westerners are ignorant of.
after all, we USED to have common sense to walk dogs on the black top, but now that women are in charge, and they are afraid of cars, they and everyone walks the dog on concrete. so we live in an endless stream of urine and its smell as the white sidewalks soak up the urine and stink when its damp or rains!!!
how can people who let their animals piss on the concrete within 10 feet of where they live function in a complicated world when they have ZERO common sense?????????????? (but ask them about germs and they will give you a list of things they do to avoid them.. with few of them even taking off their shoes when they enter their homes)
its these little things that clue people in on social capability as an average.. when i was a kid 8th grade reading level was required for business communication, now its 5th grade if your lucky…
blert Says: Putin was not interested in having to BARTER for the missile sale. It would take just about forever for Iran to come up with enough pistachios.
thats funny… you really think that? then you dont understand whats going or remember the news..
first of all these states have over 100 years of gathered reserves of cash..
two, doing favors and dirty work is a form of payment… so when russia wants crap done, they turn to these people to do it.
three:
Iran takes possession of 13 ton hoard of gold [July 2, 2015]
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/07/02/iran-talks-gold-horde/29629623/
lets see.. gold is 1,140.03 an ounce this morning
forgetting that we dont know what system they are using for that measure (Troy ounces, or common ounces), i will go with comomon ounces.
13 tons = 626,000lbs = 10,016,000oz = $11,418,240,000
11 billion buys a lot of weapons..
what about their illegal oil sales?
how about Hawala which you cant track?
they have money, and russia has no morals, the rest is fait accompli to all but those too naive or uninformed to figure out.
like where did they get the special metal to make their nuclear purification devices? you cant just make those things out of soda cans and bailing wire…
I suggest reading
The Mitrokhin Archive II : The KGB and the World
[This second volume deals with the KGB’s operations in the Third World, especially the Middle East, and also contains plenty of revelations.]
as well as
The World was Going Our Way: The KGB and the Battle for the Third World
as well as
Disinformation
and International Terrorism: Challenge and Response [edited by edited by Benjamin Netanyahu, the current Prime Minister of Israel – real tin hat stuff, eh?]
they cover things that happened in iran, india, etc
accuracy in academia
CNN’s Iranian Propaganda Campaign
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/cnns-iranian-propaganda-campaign/
What the article leaves out is the fact that Ali Khamenei was “educated” at the KGB’s Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow, along with the international terrorist “Carlos,” a convert to Islam and to the cause of al-Qaeda. It is now called the People’s Friendship University.
its not just OUR american history that counts, its also the history of the other 800+ major nations
The book, The World was Going Our Way: The KGB and the Battle for the Third World, by Christopher M. Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin, notes, “The University’s first vice-rector and a number of its staff were KGB officers who used the student body as a recruiting ground for Third World agents.” KGB Major Vasili Mitrokhin was a KGB archivist who defected to the West.
so who is training these people on how to make weapons, how to do the work.. etc?
russia has been doing this since the end of WWII… who do you think taught the backwards people of the rural vietnam how to fight that way? who supplied planes AND pilots? who did the same after russia gave permission for the korean war? and also supplied planes and pilots?
what about the middle east hijackings, assasinations, and on and on?
we just ignore that and make useless assesments that leave that stuff out.. makign them useless!!!!!!!!!
the Iranian leader’s attendance at this “university” was disclosed by Moscow-funded Russia Today television in a report on the school’s 50th anniversary. Khamenei is mentioned among the university’s “most notable graduates.” Another Russian source, the November 25, 2003 issue of Kommersant, had also presented Khamenei as a People’s Friendship University graduate.
i bet i am probably one of the only people on this blog that knows these schools, who is behind such things and so on. and its only because i can remember yesterdays news and not forget what i read.
remember the internet cables cut?
how about the missile that they said was not a missile? anyone see contrails and mistake them for a missile since? how about the disabled cruise ship using EMP? how about the US military vessel computers and controls being shut down electronically by a soviet plane? (yes they are still soviet).
PLO chief Yasser Arafat was a KGB agent, and that the Russians have played a key role in sponsoring Islamic terrorism over the course of decades. The same book, written by Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa and Prof. Ronald J. Rychlak, also identifies then-Senator John Kerry, now Obama’s Secretary of State, as a dupe of KGB disinformation operations.
herman munster detent..
We learn that Wadi Haddad, the iconic figure of Palestinian resistance, had been on the KGB payroll almost from the start and would carry no operations without Moscow’s green-light. Haddad’s recruitment was so important that Yuri Andropov, the KGB chief, personally wrote to Leonid Brezhnev, the Soviet leader, to relay the news
and
The KGB also recruited a brother of President Hafiz al-Assad of Syria, giving him the codename of “MUNZER”, along with Sami Sharaf, one of Egyptian President Gamal Abdul-Nasser’s closest aides. Another valuable “asset” was Hani al-Hassan, a Palestinian leader whom Yasser Arafat regarded as his “most trustworthy colleague”. A full-time KGB agent, codenamed GIDAR was planted next to al-Hassan.
and
the Munich Olympics in which 11 Israeli athletes were killed was, contrary to common belief, ordered by Yasser Arafat himself and orchestrated by Hani al-Hassan and not supposedly “rogue element” among the Palestinians.
and
Also working for the KGB was “a close relative” of Amir Abbas Hoveyda who served as Prime Minister of Iran for 12 years.
and
Some Communist leaders, like Syria’s Khaled Bakdash and Nureddin Kianuri of the Iranian Tudeh (Masses) Party, were on the regular KGB payroll. Others like Aziz Muhammad of Iraq received occasional lump sums while South Yemeni Communist leaders made money through business contracts with the USSR and its allies.
and
by the mid- 1970s the USSR had won the part of the Cold War waged in the “developing world.” Of the Arab countries only Saudi Arabia, The United Arab Emirates, Oman, and Morocco had managed to remain “clean” of KGB penetration at the highest levels. Pro-Soviet regimes were in power in all but nine of the 77 countries of the “nonaligned movement.”
tons tons tons more..
but they are not what people want to believe, read or learned about by the press, college academics who worship socialism (because in socialism they seem important and poor, while in western capitalism they are just poor and not that important – so they sell out their own people showing WHY they are not important to the free, and WHY they ARE important to people who need traitors)
For years been recomending reading this stuff, including the book edited by the current leader of israel.. [wouldnt THAT alone explain obamas dislike towards him and his peoples?]
keep guessing what can be read
so far no one guesses what is recorded!!!!
[and confirmed]
As Cornflour points out, it is true that certain other nations prefer commerce – illicit or otherwise – over non-proliferation and shape their foreign policy according.
Once again, the chief point of reference for disarming Iran is disarming Iraq pursuant to UNSCR 687. Regarding the failed integrity of collective sanctions, from the Iraq Survey Group:
ISG head, former UNSCOM chair Charles Duelfer’s and other accounts from the 1991-2003 Iraq disarmament mission make clear that one of the main reasons for Saddam’s decision to not comply with UNSCR 687 is that the Russian, Chinese, and French pushed hard to break down the sanctions, supported Saddam materially, eg, the Oil for Food scandal, and blatantly and fundamentally misrepresented the UNSCR 687 standard of disarmament for Iraq in order to oppose the US/UK-led enforcement.
Of course, the actual standard for disarmament for Iraq applied the strict non-proliferation protocols advocated for Iran by opponents of Obama’s Iran deal.
(I can’t say for sure that Saddam would have complied with UNSCR 687 had the Russians, Chinese, and French enforced the Gulf War ceasefire on par with the US and UK, but their complicity on behalf of Saddam was a main consideration in Saddam’s decision-making.)
Once again, in order to effectively oppose Obama’s Iran deal at the premise level, the record must be set straight on Operation Iraqi Freedom in the zeitgeist. Because Obama’s Iran deal is justified by the prevailing false narrative – promoted by the Russians, Chinese, French, and others – that stigmatizes OIF.
The necessary first step for correcting the complicit behavior of the Russians, Chinese, French, and others with Iran, is stigmatizing their complicit behavior with Saddam and holding them liable, at least in the court of public opinion, for Iraq’s material breach of UNSCR 687.
Instead, Obama has gone the opposite way. He is normalizing their complicit behavior with his Iran deal. President Obama has taken sides with the same parties on Iran that supported Iraq’s material breach of the Gulf War ceasefire and opposed Presidents Clinton and Bush’s enforcement of UNSCR 687.
Once again, the disarmament standard for Iraq was the gold standard for disarmament and opponents of Obama’s Iran deal, such as Senator Menendez, are basically calling for a UNSCR 687 standard of disarmament for Iran.
But the prevailing false narrative stigmatizing Operation Iraqi Freedom effectively obviates the application of an Iraq-type gold standard of disarmament for Iran. By reiterating his opposition to OIF and its enforcement of UNSCR 687, Menendez implicitly justifies Obama’s Iran deal.
The necessary step at the premise level in order to set a gold standard of disarmament for Iran is to set the record straight on Operation Iraqi Freedom. Setting the record straight on OIF is also the necessary step for collectively enforcing a strict disarmament for Iran by stigmatizing the Russians, French, Chinese, and others for their complicity in Iraq’s material breach of the “governing standard of Iraqi compliance” (UNSCR 1441) for disarmament mandated by UNSCR 687. Hold them liable for Saddam’s material breach in order to forestall their complicity with Iran. Instead, Obama’s Iran deal normalizes their complicity with Saddam.
Mythx,
Obama is effective because of the Left.
The Republicans can counter the Democrats, but Republicans can’t counter the Left. Once the Right defeats the Left and wins the social cultural/political/economic levers to arm the Republicans – and hold the Republicans accountable – then Republicans will be positioned sufficiently to counter the Democrats thus disarmed by the Left’s defeat at the hands of the Right.
The Right must counter the Left for the Republicans to accomplish what you want of them. However, the fundamental problem is Trump supporters attack Republicans but they do not counter the Left, while mainstream conservatives of the Right self-limit to supporting their favorite conservative candidate for the GOP nomination yet they also do not counter the Left.
Electoral politics are necessary but supporting a favorite GOP candidate is not sufficient to change the nation’s course if the Left is not countered. Again, the Republicans can counter the Democrats, but no GOP candidate – no matter how close to a Reagan-esque ideal – can counter the Left. Blowing up the GOP with Trump does not counter the Left. Only the Right collectively zealously committed to a full-on Marxist-method activist Gramscian (counter-)march everywhere can counter the Left.
Blert:
As I’ve said, my understanding of the workings of SWIFT — and, more broadly, of international banking — is extremely shallow.
For example, I’ve read that recent developments by both Russia and China to develop alternatives to SWIFT would allow those countries to trade more easily with Iran. Again, I’ll stress that my understanding is not at a technical level.
For example, here’s a link to an article on the Russian system, which is currently — at least, publicly — limited to domestic transactions. (http://tinyurl.com/nkyn734)
And here’s a link to an article on China’s alternative to the SWIFT system, which is supposed to be — publicly — operational in a few months. (http://tinyurl.com/kxskeem)
You clearly think that these alternatives to SWIFT don’t matter. As I’ve emphasized, I’m out of my depth in technical discussions of international banking. In layman’s terms, can you explain to us — given these developments — why you think that SWIFT will continue to be an absolute choke point? This is an honest question. I’m not trying to belittle your argument. And I’m definitely not defending Obama.
Thanks.
You know, neo, it is time for us — ALL of us — to stop saying about Obama: “just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse.” Of course it can And it will. I’m sorry to say. . .
Eric, there is no right…
the right is what the left calls everyone who is not on the left… its what STALIN did to dilineate the difference between his ideas and hitlers.
the very fact that you use that term and say things that stem from that mean that there is nothing to win, they have already won…
besides… freedom is not homogeneous as collectivism. the organized group will always win against the disorganized free… thats why collectivism will not die and wont go away, and will eventually win.
its gleichshaltung…
Obama’s legacy is lawlessness.
“We must organize the Intellectuals.”
– Willi Mé¼nzenberg
Once again, the tactic adopted fits the strategic end. The way is paved to revolution. Tradition cannot be maintained in church or state. It breaks down and all forms of authority break down with it. For all of them are rooted in patriarchy, and patriarchy cannot coexist with its nemesis. A profound anarchy and changeability takes hold of society as fashion supplants principle, permissiveness supplants discipline, and emotionalism rides roughshod over rational insight.
It is not a coincidence that today’s education produces effects detrimental to political and religious authority, to principle, discipline and reason. What is intriguing is the way that all these developments serve the strategic interest of a particular power and a particular cause — almost as if we were looking at a clandestine method for disrupting society. Would it surprise you if such a method was developed long ago by Willi Mé¼nzenberg (1889-1940) of the Communist International?
he told the Comintern. “We must avoid being a purely communist organization.” For in this circumstance many seeds must be planted in the minds of impressionable children and young adults. In The ABC of Communism N.I. Bukharin and E. Preobrazhensky wrote: “the Communist Party is not merely faced by constructive tasks, for in the opening phases of its activity it is likewise faced by destructive tasks. In the educational system … it must hasten to destroy everything which has made the school an instrument of capitalist class rule.”
Would this not entail the destruction of common sense, the denial of human nature and instinct, the negation of legitimate authority and civil order? Mé¼nzenberg believed that all aspects of society make up a new political battlefield. And the high ground of this battlefield is found in education; and this high ground must be seized at the earliest opportunity. The victims in this battle cannot see they are under attack. They do not know what a cultural weapon is, or how psychological warfare paves the way to their eventual destruction. Our leaders and our people believe that instinct is a myth used by reactionaries to preserve male privilege and its lamentable homophobia. Away with masculinity! It is reactionary! It is a threat!
“No shepherd, and one herd!” wrote Nietzsche. “Everyone wants the same; everyone is equal: he who has other sentiments goes voluntarily into the madhouse.”
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“A little poison now and then; that makes pleasant dreams,” wrote Nietzsche. “And much poison at last for a pleasant death.”
The only enemies Progressives recognize are of the domestic variety. Everyone else is a misunderstood, well-meaning, peace-seeker.
Confirmation of Iran’s intention to develop nuclear weapons comes in the form of the announcement that the sale of Russia’s sophisticated and state-of-the-art S300 air and missile defense missile system has now reached the delivery stage. One does not need such weaponry to defend reactors generating nothing but electricity. In touting his deal with Iran over its nuclear program, which at best merely kicks the can past the end of his presidency so others can be blamed when it fails, President Obama has said that if Iran breaks the agreement we will know it. – Daniel John Sobieski
C’mon, guys! Why so glum? Accentuate the positive! When the Iranians explode their nuke, whether it be by ICBM, container ship, or suitcase, what’s going to be the target? Somewhere on the East Coast, of course. Probably Washington, maybe New York. Thereby killing many of the lefty pols, media, academics, and voters. Talk about being hoist with your own petard!
Just remember —
“Always look on the bright side of life! Da-du, da-du-da-du-da-du! Always look on the bright side of life!”
We’ve discussed the “fool versus knave” issue. I would like to propose “knavery in the service of foolishness”.
Richard S: “Accentuate the positive! When the Iranians explode their nuke . . . what’s going to be the target? . . . maybe New York . . .”
Hey, I live there!
We’ve already had terrorists hit New York twice; the third time might just be with nukes. Then the Democrats can claim “martial law” and no one will oppose them.
charles…
Read “The Three Conjectures”
Google it.
It’s quick, it’s free.
Charles — not to worry. Martial law implies two things, the military and law, neither of which the Democrats know anything about.
Cornflour Says:
August 20th, 2015 at 11:06 am
Blert:
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For example, I’ve read that recent developments by both Russia and China to develop alternatives to SWIFT would allow those countries to trade more easily with Iran. Again, I’ll stress that my understanding is not at a technical level.
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You are highlighting just how practical and important electronic trade is in the modern era.
Russia and China always have the back door of using gold bullion — which they would certainly accept — as both are building their bullion holdings.
But the shear ‘friction’ of hauling around that much bullion soon becomes ‘wearing’ on the players.
In very short order, they find that they are paying a haircut when using gold. Neither Russia nor China really wants to accept ALL of its payments in gold. Both are major miners of the metal — and would much prefer to build their holdings via internal production. ( which is huge for both of them )
When trading with Iran, Russia wants to flip the proceeds around to purchase OTHER imports — particularly high tech goodies from Europe.
Crossing the line // infuriating Britain and America would IMMEDIATELY queer their commercial dealings with Germany and France… as the firms involved have MASSIVE asset positions inside the US and Britain.
Square D is owned by Group Schneider (france)
Siemens bought up Westinghouse (germany)
And both firms are CRITICAL exporters to the Russian industrial market — being integral to Russian railroad locomotives — their controls — and to Russian industrial controls — up and down the entire range. [ PLCs from the IEC nations of Germany, France, and Britain are ESSENTIAL and CRITICAL to all modern Russian factories.]
THIS ^^^^ is the show stopper for Putin.
It’s also a huge show stopper for Red China.
Siemens bought out Westinghouse for one specific purpose: trade with Red China. Westinghouse educated EEs RUN RED CHINA.
You would not believe the high fraction of Communist party elites that are EEs whose degrees were sponsored and paid for by Westinghouse… all those years ago.
They were never purged during the Communist uproars. They were sitting inside the Chinese power industry — totally untouched.
You might note that Red China is an EEs fantasy come true. It’s an all electric society — at every turn.
Hint, hint.
Russia and Red China want the efficiencies of SWIFT without any blowback from critical Western commercial trading partners.
BHO has assured them that all is clear, now, to proceed. He has his ‘flexibility’ now that he’s in his final eighteen-months of despotism.