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  1. Ah, just like the Valerie Plame movie making sure the Left’s narrative became the reported history. “Truth” sounds awful.

    There’s also an Anita Hill movie coming just to make sure younger generations understand just how awful Clarence Thomas is from the Left’s viewpoint.

    The Left is very, very effective at rewriting history.

  2. Of course, those few left-wing echo chamber dwellers who are willing to admit that the documents were false either argue that: 1) the facts underlying them are nonetheless true; or 2) that the fraud was actually perpetrated by Karl Rove – irresistible bait laid out in order to ensnare and embarrass Democrats and/or the Kerry-friendly media.

    I’ve always suspected that the TANG forgery was perpetrated in order to dampen the impact of the Swift Boat Veterans, whose questioning of Kerry’s service record (and pathetic post-service behavior back home) was gaining traction. In that light I’m not so sure it was a total failure.

  3. Humans are weak. With sufficient external force, pressure, and psychological control techniques, they can be broken and made into useful tools for just about anyone.

    A person that obeys orders without question, may be your enemy because his boss is your enemy. Kill his boss and take over the command chain, and now suddenly you’re the boss and they will obey. Independent or ambitious vassals or serfs, though, those might be troublesome.

  4. The Left is very, very effective at rewriting history.

    Did you also know that the Demoncrats reconstructed history about the Civil War 1 and what came before/after it?

  5. an example of such from the stars of such today:

    a Russian-language blogger based in Tel Aviv who blogs at avva.livejournal.com, discovered just how unreliable social media can be for investigating such cases.

    In late August 2014, he posted a picture of the logbooks from a Russian BMD-2 infantry fighting vehicle. The logbook included a listing for Leonid Kichatkin, age 30, a senior sergeant in the unit. Several days after Vorobey’s discovery, a notice boxed in red was posted to Kichatkin’s VKontakte page that read: “Dear Friends!!!!!!!!!! Lyona [Leonid] was killed funeral Monday at 10:00 wake in Vybuty. Who would like to bid farewell please come we will be glad to see you. If anything call [telephone number] Wife Oksana.”

    Vorobey found earlier posts from Oksana on her own page, saying first that she was waiting desperately for news of Leonid, then that “life had stopped,” and finally that she expected her husband’s coffin “within five days.” All of this, plus the condolences of friends, appeared to be unmistakable proof that Kichatkin was among those killed at Lutugino.

    By Sunday, August 24, however, Kichatkin’s page on VKontakte had been removed. At about the same time, Oksana (or perhaps someone else who had assumed control over her account) wrote: “My husband is alive and well and we are now marking the baptism of our daughter.”

    “Cargo 200”

  6. Ukraine forms ‘ministry of truth’ to regulate the media
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/19/-sp-ukraine-new-ministry-truth-undermines-battle-for-democracy

    ‘Ministry of Truth?’: Putin creates new Russian news agency led by firebrand broadcaster
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/9/ministry-truth-putin-creates-new-russian-news-agen/?page=all

    remember that most of the dystopian novels and things of the past are actually about soviet russia… from orwell to ayn… the ideas they put forth were merely copies of what was actually happening in some form…

    the above stuff (prior post) being a copy of the memory hole – and the links above about the ideas of a ministry of truth.. which the leftists in the US have created as well with their websites to check facts.

    truth? what is truth?
    truth is what the state says it is
    if not
    you wont be alive or successful enough for you to think untruth and have it matter…

    its also why they are hastening the deaths and extermination of the dominant classes in the west with nationalizing (like hitler) various large entities of the society, pushing abortion in which blobs give up brains and parts that belong to no blob and feminism in which the core of society (womens births) is marginalized and so they are now below even the immigrants let in to keep the numbers on the charge looking ok and hide the problem, along with that will be the removal of the fertility of a county when women are drafted (all these items point to creating a failed state that even if it wakes up wont be able to rescue itself no matter how much it wants to), removal of ancilary businesses and expertise in manufacturing, pushing amoral behavior, and on and on.

    ALL points progressive push things that make society ill and maladaptive towards its own survival in the face of other less manipulated states

    think the US could ramp up manufavturing?
    think the US could ramp up births?
    thin that we have enough bodies to oppose larger populations that are not third world and who are getting plenty of life fire training?
    the list goes on in a huge way and i have tried and tried to have it discussed as one item not many items disjointed from each other..

    you look at pieces on a chess board that way and you will ALWAYS lose the game…

  7. I wouldn’t believe Oliver Stone, if he said he saw the Sun come up in the East. The man is a habitual liar.

  8. Ymarsakar at 11:45 am:

    “Civil War 1”.

    I presume that that’s not a typo? You DO have a way with words…

  9. Anyone who is familiar with the way the National Guard and the Reserves operated during Vietnam, as I am, would know that what W did (Attending monthly drills in a new location by doing only administrative duties/no flying.) in the last months of his Guard service was nothing unusual.

    Under the premises of Rather and Mapes, many, many Reservists/National Guardsmen would have been derelict in their duties. I won’t go into detail, but I had a period of Reserve service where I was unable to get to an NAS, and fulfilled my drill requirements by doing administrative duties at a Naval Reserve Center and completing correspondence courses. Bush was near the end of his commitment and performed his final months in much the same way. Nothing unusual about it.

    It is character assassination, one of the progs preferred weapons against Republicans. It will soon come into play against the GOP candidates, especially the leaders, Trump and Carson.

  10. Rathergate was a watershed moment for me. Up until then, I only had a vague sense of MSM bias. It was here, where so-called journalists inserted themselves into a presidential election, in a clear attempt to determine the outcome, that my eyes were truly opened to, what I believe is still the greatest threat to our Republic – a corrupt press.

    I vividly recall watching online, in real time, as citizen bloggers proved the documents fraudulent and the story a lie. There have been too few reasons for optimism in the last dozen years, but that was one of them. I’ll never forget it.

  11. Whenever someone has to announce that what they are saying is the TRUTH, you can be pretty sure it isn’t. Joseph Wilson’s book was The Politics of Truth, for example. Sort of like Honest John’s Used Cars.

    Something similar happens with Congress and legislation. If something is called the Peace and Justice Act of 2016, you can be pretty sure it will lead to more war and be essentially unjust.

  12. Remember the UVA rape story in Rolling Stone? When it began to unravel a female reporter on the UVA campus paper said we shouldn’t let the facts interfere with a good narrative. She obviously went to the Dan Rather school of journalism.

    I was the administrative officer in a Naval Reserve unit and scheduling physicals was routine administrative procedure. Orders were not written for physicals and believing that orders were written for physicals is just ignorant.

  13. There was a maddening movie about a dedicated journalist modeled on the Valerie Plame story called “Nothing But The Truth.” The entire movie is spent building up this reporter so dedicated to the truth that she’s willing to go to jail to protect her story. It is everything I would imagine “Truth” sees itself to be – the brave journalist fighting shady government actors to make sure the people know what’s really going on! Except in the final minute there is a reveal that shows you just how honorable the report is (not).
    I think I’d rather rewatch that than “Truth.”

  14. No typo, there’s a one because there’s also a two (now or upcoming).

    Might as well get them clear right now.

  15. We also have this to look forward to, just in time for the 2016 election: Susan Sarandon on Her New TV Series Satirizing George W. Bush:

    Susan Sarandon, the Oscar-winning actress, David Bowie paramour, and paragon of timeless cool, has made it very clear that she’s no fan of George W. Bush–you know, the smirking frat boy who, as president, led the United States into a costly war under false pretenses, tanked the economy, and got his ass handed to him on live TV by Kanye West. She was one of the earliest celebrity critics of the Iraq War, and threatened to move to France if Bush was re-elected.

    Well, it seems Sarandon will finally get her revenge–on the small screen.

    The star of films like The Rocky Horror Picture Show, Thelma & Louise, and The Client is about to begin shooting a new television series in New Mexico, Graves. Created by Joshua Michael Stern (no relation), the 10-episode show is set to premiere fall 2016 on Epix, and will be the network’s first original comedy. Sarandon will play Margaret Graves, the wife of a disgraced U.S. president (Nick Nolte) who has a “come-to-Jesus” moment and decides to go out and repair the damage he’s done 20 years after leaving the Oval Office. Meanwhile, Mrs. Graves flirts with realizing her own political ambitions.

    According to Sarandon, the Nolte character is based on none other than George W. Bush. “He’s Bush,” she tells The Daily Beast. “He’s the ex-Republican president who ruined the country, did everything wrong, and wakes up one day and realizes that he fucked up. I’m his wife, and we started out as populist Republicans and, as it happens, got chewed up. So now he’s going through this big thing. Eventually, they ask me to run for the Senate because I’m like the Michelle Obama–a very popular First Lady. And there’s a crazy candidate, like a Trump, and they want me to shoot him down, so I have to decide whether or not I want to run.”

  16. I’m like Highlander – I was vaguely aware of an establishment press bias, but the TANG story just broke it all open for me. The provenance of the documents was so shaky, the documents themselves so … well, really, I know how USAF file documents were annotated (in pencil, upper right corner with date, initials of admin filing it and the file folder number it belonged in) and presumed that Reserve documents from the period before my time of active duty would be annotated in the same way.
    The more that I thought about how a hit piece had been generated for broadcast the week before Election Day, and how a major news network had deliberately tried to throw the election, the madder I got.
    On how many other occasions were bogus and partisan stories put out by 60 Minutes, without anyone getting a good careful look at the documents?

  17. Wonderful piece, Neo. Rather and Mapes as unjustified victims is a nauseating ‘Hoot!! The type set—FOCUS, Danny & Mary—on the document “proving” Mr.Bush’s behavior at the time(70’s)were PROVED to be modern computer type and therefore NONSENSE.

    Continual shame on the Grafter Rather and the Lib-Lefty pinhead, Bobby Redford.

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  19. “[T]hough the documents themselves may be falsified, both Mapes and Rather view them as more a piece of corroborative evidence”

    If the manufactured documents were just a “piece” and “corroborative,” then why have we never been given the main body of “evidence?”

    I don’t think that word means what they think it means.

  20. I thought that Charles Johnson of LittleGreenFootballs claimed to be the first// practically the first to discover the fraud.

    For type and typesetting, fonts and all the rest were his bailiwick.

    He’s gone on to zig zag all over the opinion space, last I looked he was aping Stalin: thought crime — splittist — deviant — crimes against the narrative…

    Oh my !

  21. neo…

    IIRC His discovery caused his blog to explode with ‘hits.’

    He was linked to from all over, Instapundit… et. al.

    What would kick Dan Rather is that ideologically Charles Johnson is very much a son of the Democrat party — and not really a super fan boy of George W. Bush.

    It’s just that the phony document was too much for Charles to endure.

    CJ’s biggest concern is that Muslim culture and atrocities not destroy Western liberalism.

    He found his way back to the Democrat reservation — as a fresh visit to LGF would attest.

    I’d type cast CJ as ESFJ.

    http://www.16personalities.com/esfj-personality

    He means well, but tends to be a tad strident.

  22. blert:

    Charles Johnson was a Democrat or libertarian (and I’m not sure which, actually) who was energized by 9/11 and the War on Terror to fight against Islamic terrorism. He also was a computer guy who happened to immediately see the possible problem with Rather’s Killian memos, and hit on a very graphic way to show the problem. It made him famous, and his traffic skyrocketed.

    Later, as you say, he found his way back to the liberal reservation, where he has remained.

  23. The original catch was by a chap named “Buckhead”, at Free Republic. He checked out the docs as published by CBS online, immediately after the program finished, (c.10pm EDT). Most people picked up the discussion the next morning, which is when Charles at LGF decided to try retyping one memo using MS Word and its defaults.
    A summery here: http://www.replicatedtypo.com/koalas-use-a-novel-vocal-organ-to-produce-unusually-low-pitched-mating-calls/6856.html

    Cheers

  24. Later, as you say, he found his way back to the liberal reservation, where he has remained.

    Most of the fields a computer guy works at in the US is surrounded by Democrats. It’s not like he “found himself back in the fold” so much as he was already surrounded by the fold and took the path of least resistance, for his job career.

  25. If I recall correctly, one of his posts said he did take a new job and the timeline was consistent with his ideological “change”. It wasn’t really a change though, more like weaklings obeying the hierarchy.

    Hard to tell after so many years and Google not having enough spybots to check it on. http://www.redstate.com/diary/barrypopik/2009/12/01/goodbye-little-green-footballs/

    Essentially Johnson is a true believer of the Left’s homo and thought police mini cultures. Which has expanded over the years to envelope much of the real estate of America. Well, power wise at least. His resistance to Islam was purportedly about fighting lies and totalitarian beliefs… but it is difficult for him to keep that front up when his own Leftist colleagues are miniature storm troopers and fascist totalitarians.

    You know how it is.

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