On Enrique Marquez
It’s as though the San Bernardino shooting were a primer designed to demonstrate several of the possible ways to be a jihadi in the US.
First, we have Syed Farook, a man whose parents were immigrants from a Muslim country but who was born in this country. Then we have his wife, a woman from Pakistan who had lived at times in Saudi Arabia and who came here recently as Farook’s bride under a special fiance visa program that seems to have involved almost no vetting at all of any use.
Now we have a new variation on the theme, the Hispanic Muslim-convert gun-supplier-childhood-friend Enrique Marquez. He’s a bit of a mystery man, but the story so far is exceedingly odd. I haven’t yet seen a word about whether he’s a citizen or not, but he was raised next door to Farook in Riverside, California, so I’d guess “citizen” (no idea about the original immigration status of his parents).
Marquez’s conversion to Islam is part of the mystery. We know it happened a few years ago, and I will speculate it may have had something to do with his friendship with Farook. The guns he gave to his friend were purchased three years ago, and it’s not clear when the transfer was made because there’s no record of it (no surprise there). It’s also not clear how much Marquez knew about the attack, but it is highly possible he knew quite a bit, since he and Farook are reported to have planned a previous attack in 2012 that they then abandoned:
The FBI has labeled the killings a terrorist attack and investigators are also trying to determine if Farook had abandoned plans to launch an attack in 2012, according to two people familiar with the investigation who were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.
Federal authorities questioned Marquez, 24, after searching his mother’s Riverside house over the weekend, but have not charged him with a crime. They are still trying to determine how the couple got the weapons.
Marquez told investigators that he and Farook planned an attack in the United States in 2012 but never followed through, according to one law enforcement official briefed on the investigation. It was unclear what caused them to cancel the plan.
But there’s more about Farook, Marquez, and immigration, although it’s unclear how the rest relates to their terrorism. Farook’s elder brother, whose name is also Syed (as is the father’s) but who goes by middle name “Raheel” (more about him a bit later) and Marquez each married one of a pair of Russian sisters who came here on J-1 visas, “which allow foreign individuals to enter for work-study cultural exchange programs.” Marquez’s marriage had some very odd characteristics that make me think it was not a real marriage:
Marquez did not live with his wife, [Ramirez, a friend of Marquez’s] said, and he never explained his living arrangements…
Brittani Adams, a neighbor of Syed Raheel Farook, said she had seen Marquez and Chernykh around the family home but the two looked like anything but a married couple.
“He would never leave with her, come with her, not hug her,” Adams, 24, said. “None of them seemed like they were married. It was very weird.”
They were married in November of 2014; Raheel and the other Russian sister had been married in 2011. Marquez is also reported to have been eager to enlist in the Navy, which is a prospect I don’t want to even think about.
Syed Raheel, the older brother of shooting perpetrator Syed Rizwan, is reported to be a very different sort of person than his younger brother:
One brother [Raheel] liked to party and chase girls. After high school, moved by what he saw as his patriotic duty, he enlisted in the Navy and received two medals recognizing his contributions to “the global war on terror.”
The other was deeply religious and became increasingly intolerant, ultimately nursing a growing hatred that led him, along with his wife, to open fire on a San Bernardino holiday party last week, in what law enforcement officials have termed a terrorist attack.
Syed Raheel Farook and his younger brother Syed Rizwan Farook grew up in the same house, attended the same high school two years apart and, as teenagers, often socialized in the same groups. But as they grew older their paths diverged.
Raheel seems to have always been more easygoing and outgoing, and well-assimilated. We know, of course, from Boston bomber Dzohkhar Tsarnaev that those signs don’t always mean anything at all, but in Raheel’s case they seem to have indicated he’s a relatively non-religious Muslim who probably married a non-Muslim (although even that isn’t all too clear, since we know little about these Russian sisters). According to the family’s attorney:
Attorney David Chesley told CNN on Monday that Raheel “is very upset with his brother.”
“He’s totally depressed and broken with grief.”
Whether the attorney is telling the truth or not is still another question. We simply don’t know, and that’s part of the horror of the situation. But if the description of Raheel in Haaretz is accurate, it’s exactly how I would think he’d feel.
What a tangled web of deception—and all of it undetected until too late, and much of it still unknown.
The FBI is finding more connections to more people. In addition, Farook had pix of a high school on his cell phone camera. According to people in the food inspection biz, you generally take pix of violations. Exterior shots are not done.
Great, one more layer of FBI investigation and we have enough guys to pull a Beslan in California.
It would be an act of self-defense for “good” Muslims to start dropping the dime all over the place.
The FBI were already aware of these cells, but the lower operatives are shutdown by the CAIR and other Muslim agents in charge of training the FBI in counter terrorism.
This is how it works.
Because! Diversity!
I just want to head things off at the pass, now that the fact that Enrique Marquez gave guns to these two killers is edging up over the eastern horizon. No doubt universal background checks will somehow become a burning issue, despite the fact that this sort of private transfer is illegal in Kali.
I know this. I inherited some guns from my uncle, and my brother had a particular attachment to one of the shotguns. Nice guy that I am (Jayzoos H, like I couldn’t spare the Remington M870 given I still was retaining the two Browning Auto 5s including one Magnum Duck Gun plus a Monkey Ward 16 guage) I couldn’t just give it to him; I had to go through an FFL to affect the transfer.
It’s impossible to make what Enrique Marquez did more illegal than it already is. But what they can do, and what they will do, because they’ve tried it before, is make hunting a felony. What do I mean? Simply this. They will define “transfer” of a firearm to include more than just a sale. If you simply hand a firearm to someone else, you have transferred it. Which will be illegal unless you go to a gun dealer and have the dealer do a NICS check.
So, basic firearm safety. You’re hunting with a friend. You have to cross a fence or a creek. You hand your firearm to your friend, cross the obstacle, your friend hands you both firearms while crossing the same obstacle, you sort out the guns and continue on your way.
Multiple felonies!
I bet some of you are thinking I’m imagining things. But you see my imagination just isn’t that creative. Someone would actually try to pull this BS and bring it to my awareness before my limited imagination could conceive of it.
Very disturbing background which quite norm within these group or sort of people.
One thing need to be looking in all these matter is the Imam?
Who is that Imam this man very close to him?
You know those Imams although got grant from Tax payer money they have other resources (money funds)
Go after those hidden source of found and who behind them and on what condition they given.
Believe me it’s all nasty you will find one day.
Farook and Raheel. Maybe the Calvinists are right and we are predetermined. After all, the HBD folks als keep finding more and more things we seem to have little control over.
I exaggerate a bit for effect. But I’m not just joshin’.
Has anyone seen indications (reports) that Marquez is living or held under a strictly enforced suicide watch? For if not, how not?
Customs and Border Patrol analyst Phil Haney tracked members of the Islamist Deobandi movement with which Sayed Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, were affiliated. But the Department of Homeland Security deleted the records, then disciplined and retaliated against him when he blew the whistle, he says.
http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/10/dhs-state-halted-investigation-into-islamist-group-linked-to-san-bernardino-terrorists/
I will stand with the muslims should the political wins shift in an ugly direction… page 261 Audacity of Hope
oh.. one last question…
Where is the third shooter? witnesses that were there at the shooting describe three shooters. then suddenly the third disappeared despte witnesses describing them.
This is not the third shooter that was arrested, checked and released.. nor the idea that it was in the confusion.
if you read liberal press, its cleaned up and put aside, but if you read others, you read the actual quotes of the witnesses not some story about confusion.
“I heard shots fired and it was from — you know — an automatic weapon,” Abdelmageed told the network, adding it was all “very unusual. Why would we hear shots? As we looked out the window a second set of shots goes off […] and we saw a man fall to the floor. Then we just looked and we saw three men dressed in all black, military attire, with vests on. They were holding assault rifles. As soon as they opened up the doors to building three […] one of them […] started to shoot into the room.”
Juan Fernandez, confirmed Abdelmageed’s description of events, telling reporters he also saw “three white men in military fatigues” who “took off” in a “black Impala or SUV.”
Odd Man Out: What Happened to the Third Shooter?
http://spectator.org/articles/64891/odd-man-out-what-happened-third-shooter
Steve57,
What you describe has been contemplated, such as making it a felony to allow any under 18 to handle a firearm, including your own family members.
Isn’t it curious that after the fact, the FBI seems to know everything about these people and all their neighbors and relatives and their connections to terrorism?
The older brother/veteran (Raheel) does seem to be a different sort of person than his terrorist brother EXCEPT for his mail order Ukranian bride. That strikes me as a red flag, especially since she is the sister of the mail order bride of would-be terrorist Marquez.
snopercod, thats the problem when you have so much data collected arbitrarily without a connection to some action. it just sits there as most people are not all that different in terms of saying a ha, thats who to look at. but AFTER an event, you have a reason to look there, and the links and so on.
before you meet a young girl, you have the phone book and dont know whom to call, but after you meet her and she says her name, you can zero in on the one in the phone book out of all others.
Thomas L. Friedman NOV. 25, 2015 “Letter From Saudi Arabia is it biased even though he telling: (I was not paid)??
How “a woman from Pakistan who had lived at times in Saudi Arabia she became a terrorist with here new partner?
So how much weight with his analysis about the source of radicalism in the world?
Neo
Let think in different view, is it religion or something ales?
There was a list of Child Molestor who was religious (Rabbis), also there were Catholic Church Sex Scandal, off course you found smiler things with Imams and Mullahs…..
The question is, dose the religion prevent such evil things in those sick minded criminals?
Lots of different things to contemplate. Ukrainian girls are often better looking than average — over 55% of current runway models are Russian or Ukrainian. Also they are often natural blondes, which is becoming a scarce commodity. And if they have been through the Russian porn & prostitution industry, they’re may be more submissive than American or Western European girls — having learned this as a survival tactic, the hard way.
So a couple of guys did the Russian girls a solid by going along with a fake marriage. What was in it for the guys except a kind of slave relationship with a good-looking sex partner? Not that some guys wouldn’t want that, of course. But according to one report of people who’ve seen them, they don’t act like husband and wife, barely civil to each other. Still, there could be coercion of some kind relating to…what happens if the woman files for divorce? She has to go home.
Had one of these cases in my office. She filed after about six months. She was the sharp one in the relationship and wouldn’t have done it if she’d known she would be sent back.
Fred Says:
December 11th, 2015 at 2:15 pm
Very disturbing background which quite norm within these group or sort of people.
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FYI: The Saudi King ALWAYS picks up the tab for Wahabbi imams.
The world wide tab is tremendous.
The kafir are given the illusion that Wahabbist mosques are locally funded. That is simply NOT TRUE.
The imam’s original education was 100% paid for by the King ( ie the Saudi state religion ) His status is akin to being a Peace Corps volunteer… folks that are not locally paid, either.
While the hat IS passed — such funds go to, so-called, Islamic “charity” — ie jihad and Palestine.
EACH AND EVERY Wahabbist mosque is a fort designed to spew out weapons — weaponized Muslims, that is.
“The True Believers.”
In Islam, the believers ARE the weapons.
The imams are the weapons tooling.
The mosques are weapons factories.
You will note that the father’s cafeteria practice of Islam infuriated the younger, lost soul, the second son.
It’s a pretty good bet that the real reason why the mother was fighting with daddy — he was getting action on the side.
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This highlights another key point:
The first waves of Muslims to reach America were wildly over weighted with fleeing Muslims — fleeing ISLAM. They were — from the first — apostates.
They are NOT AT ALL representative of the recent wave, the hijrah.
It’s a totally different cohort — mind set — and consequences to follow.
As for the mass assassin, he was a certified True Believer — and yet, the MSM can’t spit out the words.
After millions of copies, who can say they’ve never heard of Eric Hoffer?
Following up:
You may read, from time to time, about the hat being passed to build a new mosque. That’s an illusion. It matters not how much money is locally raised, the King will pay the entire tab.
Any purported building fund will morph also into “Charity.”
This universal pledge to pay every last dollar has been affirmed by EVERY Saudi King. The total expenditures run into the many billions of dollars.
This is why even stupendous mosques are proposed – even when and where the local Muslims are all collecting Western welfare checks. (*!!!*)
The King pays for top dollar architects… usually employing Big Names, too. No major Saudi project is ever locally designed.
An astonishing fraction are designed in London. The Saudis regard London as an ex-burb. Their second language is English, not French or German.
Richard Aubrey Says:
December 12th, 2015 at 6:44 am
So a couple of guys did the Russian girls a solid by going along with a fake marriage. What was in it for the guys except a kind of slave relationship with a good-looking sex partner?
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Oft known as a ‘beard’ — homosexuals find that such submissive chicks are practically ideal.
1) They are in bad shape to file — effectively — for divorce.
2) They keep the parents at bay — from further marriage pressure.
3) They will never figure out the lay of the land with any great speed — as homosexual slang in English is not taught anywhere but the streets.
4) Lucre is always an inducement.
In the case at hand, it appears that our anti-hero got the runt of the twins.
It’s a certainty that she disdained him.
For all we know, she’s a ‘retired’ prostitute.
I’m just up the road from Little Moscow. ( Rancho Cordova )
You’d swear that half the young studs are ex Spetznatz and that half the chicks are retired ‘professionals.’
( Whores in Russia are teens — overwhelmingly — that’s what the market wants.
You can easily see veteran teen whores pretending to be newbies in Western Russian pr0n productions. There are a few ‘tells’ — English is their second language — they revert to Russian for small chat at the drop of a pin.
They don’t have the slightest shame at ‘camera work’ even though they are plainly teens.
They evidence more bedroom skills than most married menopausal women.
Often they show every evidence of being addicted — typically to cocaine or meth, the latter being preferred by pimps. It’s THE major drug of Russian distribution here in California — not as if the Mexicans, and Hmong aren’t also hip deep in the scene. All gun laws favor the Russians. (
Their competition is helpless without guns.)
Fred Says:
December 11th, 2015 at 11:31 pm
a woman from Pakistan who had lived at times in Saudi Arabia and who came here recently
Thomas L. Friedman NOV. 25, 2015 “Letter From Saudi Arabia is it biased even though he telling: (I was not paid)??
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He became a millionaire — having started out as a billionaire.
So, he’s a man of some judgment — all of it rotten.
snopercod Says:
December 11th, 2015 at 5:20 pm
Isn’t it curious that after the fact, the FBI seems to know everything about these people and all their neighbors and relatives and their connections to terrorism?
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Police scanner chatter strongly implies that the villains were ALREADY under investigation.
The bizarre non-protection of the crime scene is one ‘tell’ that a larger investigation is under way — and has been for quite some time.
The REASON for trashing that scene — its evidence — was to calm the waters for those others that are ALREADY under investigation.
You you recall, these perps called off a jihad four years ago because of the exposure of other jihadis in their chain.
EVERYTHING points to these players being part of a very substantial cell infrastructure.
Similarly, in France, the authorities are finding that their net work just goes on and on and on and on.
The local mosques have proved to be armed like the Alamo.
As they (social) network out, the French are finding just one jihadi after another.
An entire stream of assassinations and feral assaults was in the works.
This was the same crowd that tried to assassinate both Hollande and Merkel — and the stadiums they were attending.
The first attempt to assassinate Hollande was never admitted on a timely basis. It only was revealed AFTER the Dutch found a massive ambulance bomb rigged to assassinate Merkel. It was at that point that Paris admitted that Hollands’ security detail had stopped a similar van.
Putting two and two together, the Dutch found the ambulance bomb BECAUSE the French had alerted them.
Ambulance bombs and ambulance arsenals are old hat in Israel, of course. No intifada would be complete without Pallywood.
Richard Aubrey and blert:
The evidence is that Marquez’s marriage was a sham, but it’s not clear that he knew it would be a sham from the start (I read several articles about it, and some friends of his said he was upset when his wife didn’t live with him).
I haven’t read anything about Raheel’s marriage being a sham. It may have been, but there’s nothing about that. He had been married longer, too. My guess is that his marriage was more “real.”