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  1. A Pentagon official is claiming that they don’t know what happened.

    The Pentagon is lying to cover up this potential act of war and trying to deflect a political eruption.

    The Pentagon knows exactly what happened. If one of the navy ships actually became disabled, the very first thing the sailors would have done is alerted their command.

    The boats GPS would also tell the sailors whether they were drifting out of international waters and the working ship could have taken the disabled ship in tow, keeping it out of Iranian waters.

    The Iranians are holding on to the boat’s GPS units because they would reveal whether our boats actually ever entered Iranian waters.

    The Iranians are rubbing Obama’s nose in his helplessness because they KNOW that politically, Obama cannot let his ‘deal’ fall through.

    Chamberlain and Hitler all over again.

  2. Like GB, I find it difficult to believe the initial Pentagon statements. The boats were in a body of water rife with international tensions; all movements of assets, no matter how small, would be carefully tracked. Benghazi taught us that this regime will tell lies over dead Americans, they spin myths about Bergdahl’s heroics, and now they will lie about capture sailors if it serves their narrative.

  3. This whole deal sounds fishy to me. It wouldn’t surprise me if somehow Obama staged it so he could look presidential tonight at the SOTU.

    Oh, the U.S. is scheduled to lift all sanctions on Iran in two days. LOL!

  4. You mean Obama’s LAST and FINAL SOTU. I will be happily not watching as I have to wash my hair. And I am not a masochist.

  5. snopercod, bho did not stage this incident, except signal to the mullahs that in pursuit of his royal legacy he is willing to be b*tch slapped and is unwilling to react to almost any provocation with a show of force.

  6. Jimmy Carter #2

    The Iranians released the hostages back then within days of Reagan’s election. They knew he would punish them severely.

    After we get the Navy prisoners back we should wipe out the Iranian navy.

    Obama has no shame.

  7. Do not discount US Navy error. It is entirely conceivable someone dropped the ball, some GPS thingy was set wrong, etc.
    BUT-
    If they were about to be seized, our sailors were armed. We do not know the ROE for our forces in those waters. It may well be Barack Hussein ordered them to wimp out if accosted. What Iranian vessel(s) seized them is not known to me.

    We have a carrier task force in the Persian Gulf, do we not? Could have had fighters overhead in about 15 min.

  8. If I remember correctly, a version of this was depicted over half a century ago in the 1960 Sophia Loren film Two Women.

  9. Obvious lies all around but the big thing to me is that after all of these humiliating events Iran has inflicted upon us, Obama will pay Iran $100-159b within a week.

  10. FROM Instapundit, as US navy men are being held by Iran: “Glenn Reynolds tweets, ‘Obama’s Carterization is complete’ – and on the day of his final SOTU, to boot.”

  11. I was thinking of a cartoon with Iran’s mullah’s holding the leash of little Obama monkey –
    He’s MY monkey!

    With a smaller Putin holding another leash – He’s My monkey!

    And an even smaller ISIS with another leash – He’s MY monkey.

    Bottom title (or top?) Who’s monkey is Obama?

  12. I did tell people that if they joined the US military, that they would merely become the pawns of the Regime, who will sacrifice them and get them killed when the Regime feels like it.

  13. It is entirely conceivable someone dropped the ball, some GPS thingy was set wrong, etc.

    True, could be a post Obama female officer that was kicked up beyond her competency levels leading to systematic failure, like Abu Ghraib.

  14. Found some old posts of mine on this topic. Good timing.

    https://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2014/12/28/leftist-infiltration-of-the-us-military-proceeds-as-planned/

    Westerners think they are free, thus it is believed they do not suffer under a military esque hierarchy. How little do they know the truth.

    The idea that the patriarchy is this creepy, old fashioned, obsolete system that has women in the kitchen and barefoot, is a quaint concept. One born of Leftist fevered dreams of dominion and conquest more than anything that reality considered workable. While weaklings find internet comments “unsettling” and uncomfortable, the world produces warriors and soldiers that will gladly kill you. But that’s not uncomfortable, because that’s something Americans refuse to accept as important. Like Hussein on the golf course, they got their head stuck in the sand waving their hands around, ordering the tsunami to pass them by unharmed.

    https://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2015/01/03/there-are-no-neutrals-in-this-war/

    In his essay “Ofermod,” Tolkien writes:

    For this ‘northern heroic spirit’ is never quite pure; it is of gold and an alloy. Unalloyed it would direct a man to endure even death unflinching, when necessary: that is when death may help the achievement of some object of will, or when life can only be purchased by denial of what one stands for. But since such conduct is held admirable, the alloy of personal good name was never wholly absent.

    These words describe Boromir exactly. To him, as to his father, the idea of the Good is limited to “the good of Gondor”; ultimately, to the good reputation of the Stewards and their house. Because Gondor, too, has much in it that is intrinsically good — there, too, folk spend much of their time growing food and eating it, and doing various kinds of service to one another — this remains a noble pursuit; but it is fatally flawed, for it mistakes the secondary good (the reputation of the guardians) for the primary.

    Tolkien’s most direct criticism of this defective idea of virtue is put in the mouth of Faramir. He does not denigrate Boromir’s character directly, but he implicitly recognizes his flaws by making the distinction that Boromir missed, preferring the primary to the secondary good:

    ‘I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend.’

    Y:The whole idea of reputation, of social conformity and obeying the Authorities, is something I discovered to be an often excuse for disobeying one’s conscience and doing Evil.

    There are no neutrals in this are. You are not safe sitting on the fence as a civilian in some First World nation. The military will not protect liberty, they can barely protect themselves after all (and often, fail to do even that).

  15. So, Obama refused to acknowledge the hostages in his SOTU, leaves in lines about successful relations with Iran.

    Iran releases them (along with pics of the sailors in submission), and John Kerry issues a statement expressing his gratitude to Iran.

    As a social media follow-up, former Obama campaign guru Dan Pfeiffer twitter trolls anyone who was concerned about the event: “I must have missed all the apology tweets this AM from the pundits
    politicos who freaked out abt the Iran “hostage” situation last night,”

    We are living in Idiocracy.

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