Iran: American sailors are crybabies
Iran doesn’t miss an opportunity to rub it in:
A senior Iranian military commander in charge of the country’s Revolutionary Guard Corps claimed that the 10 U.S. sailors who were recently captured and subsequently released by the Islamic Republic “started crying after [their] arrest,” according to Persian language comments made during military celebrations this weekend.
Hossein Salami, deputy commander of the IRGC, which is responsible for boarding the U.S. ships and arresting the sailors, claimed in recent remarks, the “American sailors started crying after arrest, but the kindness of our Guard made them feel calm.”
Hossein went on to brag that the incident provides definitive evidence of the Iranian military’s supremacy in the region.
“Since the end of the Second World War, no country has been able to arrest American military personnel,” the commander said, according to an independent translation of his Persian-language remarks made Friday during a “martyrs’ commemoration ceremony” in Isfahan.
Since the capture and release of the U.S. sailors this week, critics of the Obama administration’s handling of the situation have expressed embarrassment at State Department’s move to profusely thank Iran, despite its release of photos depicting the sailors on their knees with their hands held over their heads.
Every one of the Republican candidates should lay this at the feet of Obama/Clinton’s policies. Want more of the same? Elect Hillary.
“Hossein Salami” — is this a joke??
Imagine a society of Donald Trump’s and Barack Obamas… that’s a shame-honor society. Salami is compensating for deep insecurities.
The IWonPenPhone administration will miss an opportunity to teach the Americans (and the world) a central lesson of HopeAndChange if the administration fails to hold a Rose Garden celebration – a la Bowe HeServedHisNationWithDistinction Bergdahl’s repurchase celebration – with these individual sailors who shed tears of humiliation, since humiliation is the very essence of HopeAndChange. The Americans must learn what is highest, best, and what is not — for they cannot know it by nature.
Both the messiah and the would be messiah know no shame, and sadly millions who voted or would vote for them know no shame.
http://www.arktos.com/our-authors/daniel-friberg/daniel-friberg-the-real-right-returns-softcover.html
In other news, even the normally cow cud chewing livestock in Europe are doing things that might otherwise be expected of free peoples.
Which is pretty strange, when you think about it. It defies the old concept of how European culture mixes with or interacts with American culture. We were the ones that should have been listening to the EU, remember? We were the hyperpower of jingoists, right. They thought they had gelded their white boys in Europe, that it was time to use the EU to work on “balancing” the rest of the cowboys in the US.
Then Islam figured out how to trigger the Left’s termination protocol back when they were developed as WMD viral weapons by the Soviets.
But when Europeans start saying the same thing as Americans, about the “Right”, whatever that means, about a new “Right”, it might be sign of a sea change. Or a world war, either way.
Feminism has succeeding in [censored] for equality… now the men cry like the women do.. .
just wait till the ladies find out that they would be up against the likes of spetsnaz…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlarYpBb0lc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29GaLmP8JQ
Women Marines – Recruit Training Confidence Course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuIlZ0BSym4
[notice the tape on the arm stretcher, as the women fall off without it.. notice their speed. and that they dont train with the men, as the men make them feel bad when they see the men go at it… (no wonder they cry)…]
just compare the new special forces with women, or others with these people. of course, the new military designed by political correctness, says equality matters more than merit (sorry for using merit the term of white privelege there, and racism – Penn state says this is a bad thing, along with lots of other terms)
At Pennsylvania State University, no hurt feeling is too small, no slight too inconsequential, no unintentionally biased statement too unimportant.
Administrators want to know it all.
The public university is in the midst of a massive campaign that encourages students not only to watch what they say, lest they offend someone, but also to report any and all biased statements to campus officials. …
As a part of the campaign, the university is using posters and magnets to emphasize its Report Bias system set up under the Office of the Vice Provost for Educational Equity.
Any subtly politically incorrect notion qualifies as a microaggression, including the following, as explicitly listed by the University of California:
– “When I look at you, I don’t see color.”
– “There is only one race, the human race.”
– “America is a melting pot.”
– “I don’t believe in race.”
– “America is the land of opportunity.”
– “I believe the most qualified person should get the job.”
– “Everyone can succeed in this society, if they work hard enough.”
Those ten sailors have family. Are they talking to their families? I especially want to hear from the captain who apologized.
I imagine we will never know.
I am old and I am tired of this crap.
There is no way in hell those ten Sailors surrendered to Iranian bass boats of their own violation. They had several options, fight and blow them out of the water, or if one boat was disabled they could blow it up and get away in the other at the top speed of 40 plus knots and the US Navy could have sent air support to aid the boats for either fight or flight.
My guess is that they were in international waters low on fuel when the encounter occurred and the Pentagon & State Dept. issued instructions to prevent an incident that would tarnish and spoil the Iranian deal which has now been finished.
I also surmise that the deal makers in Iran told the US that they would rescue the boats and be heroes to the world and the, on the water, Iranians made a decision to make us look like idiots to the whole world.
Now it seems as if half of the our country and most of the world think the right decisions were made since the ends justify the means and us bending over got our sailors and some other captives released this week was a good sound decision. They have no idea about losing face and how weak and insipid our military presence is today, after this fiasco. I am now afraid there will be a high price to pay for this in the next few years.
I am old and I am tired of this crap.
“I am old and I am tired of this crap.”
Me too, got the t-shirt and wear it proudly.
Weak horse.
The US succeeded in Iraq with the COIN “Surge”, a paradigmatic achievement of strong-horse American leadership of the free world. But President Obama, who spent years propagandizing against the Iraq intervention, labeled the epochal achievement of American leadership in the defining international enforcement of the post-Cold War “dumb”.
He’s since replaced it wholesale with this, his version of “smart” diplomacy for America, instead … weak horse.
Old Texan, I think you’re pretty close on the scenario. I’ve heard some scuttlebutt that the Iranians may have used jamming to lure the boats near the islands. (Not close enough to be in Iranian waters but well off course where they could be intercepted.)
“…….the Pentagon & State Dept. issued instructions to prevent an incident that would tarnish and spoil the Iranian deal which has now been finished.” This is the only thing that makes sense. No CO, even a junior officer, would give up his ship (or boat) without a fight. (Unless our military has become totally feminized.)
I’m old and tired of this crap, too.
Want to see something that will turn your stomach? Watch this video of Josh Earnest answering questions about this incident:
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/white-house-pictures-sailors-on-knees-embarrassing/
Well, now it’s official: United States is the laughingstock in the World.
Iran has nailed it. Really. If they wanted to make US look like a bunch of pathetic fools, they’ve nailed it.
I don’t know if people in US is aware of how relevant is all of this. American Power doesn’t rely on the float, which is more and more vulnerable (big carriers are a relic of the past, like the Bissmark-class battleships after the WW2, and each day they become more vulnerable to modern armament). It relies on prestige. Once it’s gone, it’s gone, and with the US army becoming more and more outdated, it’s not coming back. And there’s nothing that kills prestige more effectively than laughs.
And people is laughing. A lot.
I’m gonna make a bet: long term, that incident will be one of markers of the beginning of the future political situation in the World.
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RE: Obama on His Knees?
It’ll be on a prayer rug.
burger eating surrender monkeys.
Iranian Salami beating POTUS Bologne
Nothing new here for democrats. Remember what democrat McGovern said when he was running for president? He said he wanted us to lose in Vietnam and if elected president he would go to Ho Chi Min on his knees.
I bet that Obama and Kerry weren’t even bothered that much by the incident. They were so anxious to turn over the $100b.
Barack wanted that “deal” in order to get contributions to fund his library.
Making some grand assumptions:
1) Very hard to believe that the riverine craft were EVER accidentally navigated away from the Arabian coast.
For the safest passage would place them no more than five miles off the Arabian coast all the way from Kuwait to Bahrain.
The deeper waters are the congested waters.
2) Very hard to believe that these craft EVER ran low on fuel.
They’re not exactly fuel pigs — unless travelling at top speed.
3) Why would anyone trust errant GPS readings if they started to direct travel away from the coast?
4) Why were those craft even in those waters in the first place?
They are the successors to the riverine craft seen in Apocalypse Now.
They are part of what is termed the “brown water” navy.
( Rivers and estuaries being so commonly muddy.
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Two scenarios leap to mind:
1) Intelligence operation.
Everything from recon to signals.
The USS Liberty and USS Pueblo were both attacked while on electronic recon.
Likewise the Red Chinese attacked our electronic recon and damaged our plane…
The Soviets downed the Korean jumbo because they thought it was an electronic recon plane… We had one flying not so far away at the time. This aspect didn’t come out for years.
The extremely LOW profile of these riverine craft would figure large for such employments.
2) Spy // agent insertion.
America has plenty of Iranian-Americans of an anti-Mullah mind set — who’d be able to blend in.
Landing them SEAL team style would be out of the question.
If this was the real mission, MUCH would make sense.
On such a mission, weapons use would be out of the question.
The cover story would NATURALLY be that they had engine trouble.
If necessary, the officer in command would DELIBERATELY dump fuel upon discovery — and fake distress… almost like a trouble prone engine — at lover’s lane.
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All of the above is reason to suspect that — against ones instinct — the Iranians are actually correct — almost down the line.
Indeed, for such a mission one would select an EXTREMELY green crew.
So that they would naturally come off as McHale’s Navy.
Indeed, one would go so far as to deliberately select fellas that were both green and ’emotional.’
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Delivering agents by small craft — across that gulf — has LONG been practiced by Iran.
ALL of the Arab states are flaming paranoid about such landings.
Hence what little navies they have are ALL dedicated to keeping Shi’ites from making the transit.
Is that the worst propaganda photo of our military ever? Or do I just not have enough exposure to such things? Awful, just awful. I blame Zero.
Artfldgrs:
now the men cry like the women do.. .
just wait till the ladies find out that they would be up against the likes of spetsnaz
Forget social justice. There is poetic justice. We should elect to abort ourselves now and spare our evolutionary successors the planning.
Americans need to rediscover their dignity and stop wallowing in progressive morality, which has left us corrupt, dysfunctional, and without a Posterity. It would serve both men and women well to ignore the political, financial, and social ambitions of the female chauvinists, male chauvinists, and the transgender/confused.
There were other seers with more credible prophecies of catastrophic [social] climate change.
If I see any Leftist, I pin it on them. They are guilty. You can reach them, even if you aren’t allowed to talk to the Regime’s messiah face to face and give him an honest impression of your thoughts.
Since it is their Messiah, they’ll have to serve as a conduit then. A pain sensor even.
So. Question:
What would a good president have done, under the circumstances? What would have been the right response?
I suppose that question needs clarification, because it doesn’t yet specify WHICH decision-point we’re discussing. There was…
1. the point when they hadn’t yet been captured but the Iranians were too close for them to escape without incident;
2. the point when they had been captured, but the Iranians hadn’t yet started to misuse them; and,
3. the point at which the headscarfing and propaganda videos began.
My own personal opinion goes something like this:
At decision-time 1, you instruct the Iranians to assist them by offering fuel, or whatever, without boarding them, and to allow them to leave without incident;
At decision-time 2, you instruct the Iranians that you are disappointed — and deeply concerned for the welfare of the Iranian economy, military, and shipping capacity — that they have disregarded your earlier instructions…but that things can all end reasonably peaceably provided that Iranian behavior towards these captured personnel is exemplary;
At decision-time 3, you sink every Iranian-flag vessel on the sea, anywhere, wherever it is, civilian or not, unless it’s inside the territorial waters of an ally (i.e., don’t blow them up if they’re docked in the Thames). Then you deprive them explosively of half their oil wells, and instruct them that if they dp anything in response other than say, “Thank you, America, for showing us mercy and for your abundant graciousness in forgiving our deplorable mistreatment of your personnel” in response, they will lose the other half of their “petroleum privileges.”
But that’s just me.
I presume someone else would be a tad more moderate.
Okay, fine:
What would a good president have done?
Read my post.
Everything came off perfectly — almost.
Arminas Pileckas [age 15], a native of northern European state Lithuania was living in Sweden with his parents when he was brutally murdered [last] Monday by an “Arab” – reportedly Syrian – migrant classmate.
It is reported that Arminas intervened to protect a female school-mate from being sexually assaulted in December, only to have the Syrian he defended her from stab him in the back and through the heart on the first day of the next termUnder just war, sinkinng the navy of an unequal weaker state would be a war crime…similar to the idea of a sports team being real bad to beat the oposition by too wde a margin…anither feminist equalizing thing, like everyone gets a tropjy
on anithrr note
I doubt small boats like this would be in contact with some big, higher command that would give them specific instructions. Guessing it was more like, “Crap, we are getting picked up by the Iranians!” said to their command on a radio. Command on other end, “Just let them pick you up. It’ll be fine.” Small boat, “What???” And that was probably as far as it went.
If they were told to ‘give up’ and let the Iranians take them, you would think at the very least they would’ve dumped any equipment and weapons they had into the water. Even if they were told to ‘surrender’ you’d think they would’ve done that much.
I blame it on both the command who was in contact with this boat at some point and the feminization of the military. Guessing that training was not what it used to be. How the sailors interact with the ‘enemy’ or a ‘foreign power’ has probably changed. That is what I’m guessing.
If you compare previous ‘capture’ type scenarios, this one was completely different than those of the past. No destroying of equipment, no attempt to defy the Iranians, complete compliance, even an apology. This is perhaps what is being taught now in boot camp or within the command structure.
If that is the case, we don’t have cojones any more. And it’s pathetic. The man in charge of the boat is most likely humiliated that he could not stand up to the Iranians and just had to sit there.
Then ….
“Don’t give up the ship”
“I have not yet begun to fight”
“Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead”
“Small boys attack”
Now….
“Wait, don’t hurt us”
Blert — agreed. Intel is the most likely option — test Iranian defenses and reactions. If we’re wrong, this is a total and complete collapse of the US military under the One.
I found it MOST curious that there was a female aboard.
Such small craft are NOT set up for two sexes.
In my estimation, this was special duty for her.
These craft are small enough to be flown around — even slung under a helicopter.
Hence, I take the entire pitch from the Pentagon and Oval Office to be bunkum.
Picking a VERY young crew is consistent with a high risk op.
It’s the way America fielded PT boats in the Pacific Campaign.
We even used “instant Ensigns” to command them.
How green could one possibly get?
The beauty of a really green crew is that their utter ignorance is double plus good during capture.
They can’t spill any beans.
And they come off as McHale’s Navy. Perfect.
With $170,000,000,000 waiting in the wings — there would be slim chances that the mullahs would hang on to McHale’s Navy.
As for spying from ‘brown water’ — that’s been an American specialty since WWII.
We’re always up to something — somewhere.
Artfl, those aren’t SPETSNAZ – they’re Special Troops of the Ministry of Interior, sometimes referred to as “OMO.” Of course, in Chechnya they had a reputation of being nastier than SPETSNAZ.